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The future of energy generation and storage


I was wondering when someone would actually own up, Tesle must have been losing money, hand over fist selling them. IMO

An extract from the article below.

“Even some of the deep cycling lead acid batteries offer 1,000 cycles and cost less than half of the $3,500 price tag for Tesla Powerwall,” said Ravi Manghani, senior energy storage analyst at GTM Research. “For pure backup applications only providing 500 cycles, lead acid batteries or gensets are way more economical.”

The hype might be fading.
 
By the way smurph, how is dam storage inflows going in Tassie.
From watching the weather, rainfall looks good.
 
By the way smurph, how is dam storage inflows going in Tassie.
From watching the weather, rainfall looks good.

We had the driest Summer on record and now we've just had the wettest May - July on record.

Storage is now about 35%, up from the low of 12.8%, although for the smaller dams they are mostly either spilling or very close to it with only the long term storage still being low.

Some water was released from Lake Pedder via the discharge valve at Serpentine Dam today. That's the first spill from Pedder since 1988 and illustrates just how wet it has been.

Lake King William, where I produced a video linked earlier in this thread 3 months ago, is about to spill and will do so before the weekend. The area that was completely free of water in that video is now completely submerged.

In general the situation is:

Smaller schemes - either spilling or very close to full. Power stations being run flat out 24/7 at 100% of capacity.

Long term storages - still reasonably low and not being used much if at all (depends on power demand).

Offline: Gordon (not needed, 1 of 3 machines out for maintenance), Lake Echo (not needed, maintenance being done), Paloona (spilling, unavoidable outage). All gas and diesel generation.

Limited use for peak load: Poatina

Operating constantly but not at full output: Tribute. Dam is at a good level but not full.

Operating constantly at 100% of capacity and with the associated storage either spilling or about to: Butlers Gorge, Tarraleah, *Tungatinah, Liapootah, Wayatinah, Catagunya, Repulse, Cluny, Meadowbank, Trevallyn, Rowallan, Fisher, Parangana, Lemonthyme, Wilmot, Cethana, Devils Gate, Mackintosh, Bastyan, Reece, John Buters, Lake Margaret Upper, Lake Margaret Lower.

*Tungatinah has 4 of the 5 machines in service and running at 100% of capacity (actually running a bit over that) 24/7. The other machine is out for a major upgrade.

Overall we've got a lot of "use it or lose it" generation right now. That's meeting Tasmanian demand firstly with, at off-peak times, the surplus going to Victoria.

Photo: Water being released on 27 July from Serpentine Dam (Lake Pedder) for the first time since 1988. Under normal circumstances all water is used for generation however recent inflows have exceeded the canal capacity and caused the Lake to reach 100% of capacity. Technically, spill is achieved by opening the discharge valve which simply runs water from an intake and out to the river at a rate of 240,000 litres per second. This is in addition to normal use of the water which continues at maximum capacity via the canal. Hydro Tas photo (not mine).

Under normal circumstances the location shown would have no significant water flow, being immediately downstream of Serpentine Dam.
 

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Has anyone experience with a solar pool pump (3 phases DC), MPPT, powered by 3/4 panels?
I am thinking about getting off the grid fully with this one, the pool pump is basically a third of my power use on a yearly average
 
Has anyone experience with a solar pool pump (3 phases DC), MPPT, powered by 3/4 panels?
I am thinking about getting off the grid fully with this one, the pool pump is basically a third of my power use on a yearly average
I don't know about solar pool pumps, frog, but solar bore pumps are very popular with farmers. Maybe if you contacted a supplier of them, they may have some ideas.
 
I don't know about solar pool pumps, frog, but solar bore pumps are very popular with farmers. Maybe if you contacted a supplier of them, they may have some ideas.
Thanks Sptrawler, I have contacted suppliers, there are dedicated systems available but I am keen talking to a user for the pro/cons and not the marketing speech.It is not yet that common. If I proceed one way or another, I will post my findings on this thread.
 
Looks like Josh Frydenberg is committed to a renewable energy future and totally accepts the reality of human caused global warming. Big steps for the new government.
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/fed...shift-to-back-renewables-20160727-gqf6kv.html
 
Advanced Hybrid Solutions are working on a hydraulic pressurised system that pressurises a nitrogen charged cylinder with hydraulic fluid that can then provide power through a hydraulic motor. Check the website www.advancedhybridsolutions.com

Yes had been there before and ideal for start/stop usage: garbage truck, postman, etc.
Great!!
 
There's a trial of grid-connected battery storage located at households about to get underway on Bruny Island (Tas).

The island is connected to the main Tas electricity grid via two undersea cables (AC) however peak demand is a problem and at times exceeds capacity of the cables. This is presently addressed by a diesel generator on the island which is used at times of local peak demand (regardless of the supply and demand situation in the rest of the state since transmission to the island is constrained by the capacity of the cables).

The intent is that ultimately battery storage could be a way to replace the diesel generator without needing to upgrade the undersea cables. The trial will assess that potential both on Bruny Island and elsewhere.

More info here: https://www.tasnetworks.com.au/cust...d-outcomes/consort-bruny-island-battery-trial
 
Doubling battery power of consumer electronics​



 
Yes had been there before and ideal for start/stop usage: garbage truck, postman, etc.
Great!!

Their latest outfit is a completely new design with a different type of hydraulic motor. Check out their website www.advancedhybridsolutions.com for the latest news. They are now in discussions with a top university which has approached them to be involved in further research into hydraulic hybrids. They currently are raising funds to move to commercially trialling the garbage compactor and a bus.
 
I think a mistake made with geothermal is location.

SA has the attraction of a massive resource and high electricity prices but it's in the middle of nowhere. Higher costs to get everything out there and any large scale development would have required some major transmission lines to move the power to the existing grid.

In contrast there are smaller but still more than adequate geothermal resources in Vic and Tas right next to the existing grid and existing towns. In Tas at least there's also plenty of water available. Surely that would have lowered costs to some extent, particularly if they had gone ahead with a major development. So no real need to be doing things in the middle of nowhere if they just wanted to prove the concept and get a plant up and running.

See this map: http://www.geothermal-resources.com.au/images/fig2.jpg
 
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