wayneL
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2. what core problems ? - are you admitting something or speculating? -
maybe you're referring to general pollution? hell , we have to try.
The Western overly consumptive lifestyle and the imperitives of the monetary system to encourage the same. Pollution is the result, not the cause.
3. wayne
I haven't mentioned Al Gore for yonks - Ever since you started using his alleged hypocrisy as reason enough to dismiss any message he may or may not have – and objected to his winning the Nobel Peace Prize.
So instead, I refer to the IPCC (the other half of that Nobel Prize) and the likes of Suzuki.
Al serves as proxy for the whole GW vested interest cabal. Like I said, follow the money.
4. And you're right, I'd probably trust Suzuki much more than I'd trust Gore.
Me too, his message is more holistic and encompasses a broad range of issues, just a shame he has fallen for the IPCC sectarian version of AGW as it dilutes his true value as an environmental campaigner.
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5. As for people who support companies with large environmental footprint – I guess that would apply to shareholders who hold BHP – and let’s not even mention the Ok Tedi disaster.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ok_Tedi_Environmental_Disaster
Would I still put my money on BHP if I thought their price was gonna go up? Course I would. (unless they did another Ok Tedi) . And concurrently vote in a govt that might ratify Kyoto and /or incentives to reduce their effect on the environment. Maybe BHP will be incentivated to get into cleaner technology and make a fortune selling it as world leaders. (as Aus potentially could be here if we wished … if you believe Garnaut anyways ).
Shareholders, unless they actually have participated in a capital raising, do not contribute to the company's balance sheet in any way. Perhaps it could be viewed as hypocritical to profit from their activities via holding shares, but a debate for another thread.
Contractors to BHP (as proxy for all polluting public companies) are a different matter as they are active participants and therefore contributers to the alleged problem.
I don't believe people can bang the AGW drum and simultaneously work for/with BHP and maintain any sort of integrity.
IMO