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Council rates, power, public transport, insurance, car registration.....
Are you sure about that Sir Rumpole?
There is no GST on Rents or Mortgages.
There is no GST on Health and medical services.
There is no GST on fresh food items and non restaurant/takeaway meals.
No GST on education
No GST on Water, sewerage and draiinage.
No GST on recognised Childcare services tht). have any educational componet(hence they all do).
For a low income family that would probably cover 80% of their expenditure.
The well off would be spending a lot more on items that attract GST.
If you abolished all GST, who do you think would end up with the most extra disposable income in their pockets?
mick
I do think most of those qualify for a concession rate, I may be wrong but I'm sure my mate mentioned that he gets cheaper council rates, concessional public transport, car rego, drivers license, medication, doctors visits and a few others.Council rates, power, public transport, insurance, car registration.....
I do think most of those qualify for a concession rate, I may be wrong but I'm sure my mate mentioned that he gets cheaper council rates, concessional public transport, car rego, drivers license, medication, doctors visits and a few others.
Maybe they should have a welfare card, that gives anyone on any form of welfare an automatic 10% discount? Oh I forgot you can't do that a welfare card is discriminatory.
What discounts can you get on Centrelink with your concession card?
Here is a complete list of discounts you can get with your concession/healthcare cards. It does vary a little state by state.www.thethriftyissue.com.au
All true Mick but fuel, fags and booze no one goes without them.Are you sure about that Sir Rumpole?
There is no GST on Rents or Mortgages.
There is no GST on Health and medical services.
There is no GST on fresh food items and non restaurant/takeaway meals.
No GST on education
No GST on Water, sewerage and draiinage.
No GST on recognised Childcare services tht). have any educational componet(hence they all do).
For a low income family that would probably cover 80% of their expenditure.
The well off would be spending a lot more on items that attract GST.
If you abolished all GST, who do you think would end up with the most extra disposable income in their pockets?
mick
We have the Commonwealthy Health Care Card, get certain discounts from some Drs but is very limited. But something is better than nought.Those probably only apply to pensioners, but there are plenty of "working poor" around who don't get any concessions.
I was thinking more of the self-funded people with relatively low incomes who do pay at least some tax and who frequently miss out on the various discounts, rebates and so on.If you don't pay tax - virtually anyone on a pension, you miss out on a tax cut.
As I pointed out the bottom 50% of people pay only b2% of the tax.
I agree with you 100%, but what is forgotten is that even with these changes, the top end get $4,500, the bottom end get $50 and some concessions.Those probably only apply to pensioners, but there are plenty of "working poor" around who don't get any concessions.
There is no real gain being in the middle and on wages.I agree with you 100%, but was is forgotten is that even with these changes, the top end get $4,500, the bottom end get $50 and some concessions.
The middle class get $800 and sod all concessions, for every dollar given in welfare someone has to pay a dollar in the system, that is the way it has to be.
But the impression I'm getting is the middle class, I'm talking tradies who work for wages, they feel as though they are getting screwed to the floor and by the way Albo is contorting himself he is obviously aware of it.
It will be an interesting year, the RBA has had its head pulled in, so interest rates should stay steady for a while. Hopefully everything settles down, but I'm not confident it will.
There is a very angry undercurrent IMO.
I'd extend the definition a lot more broadly to anyone who works in a non-elite occupation.But the impression I'm getting is the middle class, I'm talking tradies who work for wages, they feel as though they are getting screwed to the floor
No doubt, but I only go off conversations with my neighbour's and my own grown up kids, glaziers, Coles middle manager and a panel beating shop assessor, pie shop assistant, carpet cleaning contractor, pest control contractor, nurse, my own kids P.A, Sparkie, Library technician, carer.I'd extend the definition a lot more broadly to anyone who works in a non-elite occupation.
Someone who spends their day stacking shelves, cutting hair, serving customers or in a run of the mill white collar job is likely having very similar thoughts.
Someone who spends their day stacking shelves, cutting hair, serving customers or in a run of the mill white collar job is likely having very similar thoughts.
Rent- Increased house values in Sydney/Melbourne have encouraged owners to look interstate for cheap investment houses and overpaid.I agree. Rent, power, council rates, fuel, mortgages and insurance are all going through the roof and are basically unavoidable.
The maxim "shop around" doesn't apply any more. Everyone is putting up prices and there is no escape.
I don't live anywhere near floods and my home insurance is $2k+.Insurance- Well most people live on the East Coast and most have been sitting in a swimming pool this year, so insurance is going up,up,up.
Well we live in W.A and it is dryer than an afghans jock strap and I'm sure ours will go up as well, that's life in a caring sharing community.I don't live anywhere near floods and my home insurance is $2k+.
Which only leaves me to carry the load while you mob of bludgers have a bloody good time !!!!Well we live in W.A and it is dryer than an afghans jock strap and I'm sure ours will go up as well, that's life in a caring sharing community.
You can't have it both ways, care about those who can least afford it, then complain when you have to share the cost.
Enjoy.
It is only happening on your insurance, middle Australia is picking up the slack on all the fronts, pensioners get a CPI raise soon.
Self funded FWt's, I mean retirees just have to suck it up, that's why we have 7 cruises set up in the next 18 months.
I'm over it, time to put the feet up, grab a teat and become precious, stuff the franking credits swallow the pride and take $40k tax free pension.
You can't have it both ways, care about those who can least afford it, then complain when you have to share the cost.
Insurance is about making money For the insurance industry.Insurance is about risk, those who are most at risk should pay more.
The problem is what insurance companies think is a "fair" premium for a certain risk, factoring in their profit margins and what percentage of a person on an average wage should be required to pay for insurance.
If premiums become unaffordable then governments should step in and cover those with the greater risk which should reduce premiums for the rest of us.
There used to be an insurance company run by government, the insurance area is just another way of private companies making a motza at the expense of their customers who are a generally captive audience.
When did we see or hear of an insurance company going belly -upInsurance is about making money For the insurance industry.
mick
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