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Superannuation, the ultimate government cash cow?

obviously small change to them , just a small scratch to the performance bonuses , but how much did the super-members lose
 
From my memory and understanding, I think this is how the pension and super system generally came about.
Someone can correct my if I'm wrong, but everything seems to be going full circle.

*The pension scheme was funded by a levy on income tax in the early 1900's.

*Then the funds were absorbed into consolidated revenue in the name of simplifying it and pensions paid from that, in around the 1950's.

*Then a pension scheme funded by a levy on individuals earnings in 1980's, called the superannuation guarantee, was started.

*Now the ever faithful Gratton Institute is putting forward an idea, let's put super it into the Government's hands and they can pay a pension from that.


The Grattan Institute has dropped a report this week that’s got everyone talking. It tackles a familiar issue: Australians are nervous about spending their retirement savings.

Most retirees live off the income their super generates, leaving the capital untouched to pass on as a legacy. The problem? Many are living far below the standard they could comfortably afford, simply because they’re too cautious to dip into their savings. And the real purpose of superannuation – to fund our retirements is being neglected.

The report also points out what we’ve all been saying for years: the superannuation system is far too complex, and there’s virtually no support to help people figure out how to navigate retirement once they stop working.

The proposed solution? The Grattan Institute suggests the government step in and start offering lifetime annuities – products that already exist that are designed to provide retirees with a secure, steady income stream for life.

It even floated the idea of making these annuities mandatory, so everyone has some peace of mind in retirement and no one has to worry about running out of money.
 
Trust me, i am your government
 


Is that how Canada works sort of?
 
Wow rextbook experts, don't you love them. Well, no,
 
Is that how Canada works sort of?
Again from memory talking to people over the years, from my understanding the U.K, Canada, Australia and NZ all had a similar welfare/pension system.

The UK, Canada and NZ pension is not means tested as far as I know, but I think the super that people have is taxed when drawn dawn, so everyone gets the basic pension but those who have super pay tax on it as income.

With Australia it is means tested, as you know.

Well that is my understanding, but getting accurate information is difficult, when we are on a cruise the subject usually comes up and most people from countries that have a pension are surprised when they hear ours is means tested.
 
Apart from reading media have any actually read the report itself? No? Well, here is the link.


See if you spot the flaw or rather omission.

Also bear in mind it's nothing but thought bubbles. What do you think the odds are of it getting anywhere near Treasury for initial modelling?
 
Extraordinary unfair indeed and a tax on the savers and a prime to incompetence and irresponsibility.
Well the whole Australian story basically
 
now i READ this somewhere ( a couple of decades back ) and it could be incorrect

but personal income tax ( on the plebs/workers ) was introduced as a TEMPORARY measure to help raise funds for the war ( i think it was WW2 ) now of course when the war ended , the government was addicted to the income .. and put out the concept of an aged pension ( for all elderly folks ) as the sweetener to keep income tax in place ,

of course personal income tax and pensions have had many changes since ( because that is what governments do , to make them feel important .. and reduce the reality that they are SERVANTS of the people , not vice versa )]
 
In regard to provision of age pensions only by a Referendum irrespective of the new digital age.

But hey, you should discover that soon enough.
 

A brief history of Personal Income Tax.​


 
If you don't know if it is correct then don't post a comment. Go and check and verify your sources beforehand.
Good point.



 
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