Suicide and Voluntary Euthanasia

[Boggo]

Thanks everyone.

Over 13 years since she was first diagnosed and treated but then the tumour came back with a vengeance this year.

I thought that I was prepared for this but not so.

Reading posts etc on here is keeping me occupied and distracted until the funeral tomorrow.

 

[sptrawler]

All the best for tomorrow, just remember the great times you had together, at the end all we have is memories.
I feel so humble, that you find time to talk to us, we all feel for you and hope you keep posting when you feel up to it.

 

[Value Collector]

DB, as I said, you are entitled to your view.

I don't agree with any of the killing -- be it babies, elderly, disabled.

BTW, dogs cannot talk so there is no way he could tell you anything.

imv, there is no such thing as a conservative bill.

141 clauses.

That is my view.

Are you a vegan Tink?

Or are you willing to put down an animal for your meal time enjoyment, but not willing to put it down to end its suffering?

 

[Tisme]

I know this won't be as important as gays trying the same or paid actors pretending to be honestly shocked at men making a pass at them, but if you feel there's nothing left, think again ... there's always resets, workarounds and people who care. The kids will get old enough to come see you on their own and there's a lot of value time after that occurs:

 

[PZ99]

Work with plenty of dads in the above position. They're on ice. All of them

 

[DB008]

Medically assisted suicide becomes legal in Hawaii
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HONOLULU (AP) — Hawaii became the latest liberal-leaning state to legalize medically assisted suicide Thursday as the governor signed a measure into law allowing doctors to fulfill requests from terminally ill patients to prescribe life-ending medication.

“It is time for terminally ill, mentally competent Hawaii residents who are suffering to make their own end-of-life choices with dignity, grace and peace,” Gov. David Ige said.

Ige said the law was written to ensure the patient is in full control and it provides just one option available for end-of-life care, knowing assisted suicide is not for everyone.

“But we know that we have gotten to a point in our community that it does make sense to give the patient a choice to request the medication, obtain it and take it, or ultimately change their mind,” the governor said.

Hawaii’s heavily Democratic lawmakers approved the legislation late last month. The state joins California, Colorado, Oregon, Vermont, Washington state and the District of Columbia in allowing the practice.

Critics say they are concerned that the option will lead to hasty decisions, misdiagnoses and waning support for palliative care, in which dying people can be sedated to relieve suffering.

The law has safeguards to prevent abuse. Two health care providers are required to confirm a patient’s diagnosis, prognosis, ability to make decisions and that the request is voluntary.

A counselor also must determine that the patient isn’t suffering from conditions that may interfere with decision-making, such as a lack of treatment of depression.

The patient must make two oral requests for the life-ending medication, with a 20-day waiting period in between, and sign a written request witnessed by two people, one of whom can’t be a relative.

Criminal penalties will apply to anyone who tampers with a request or coerces a prescription for life-ending medication.

“The time was right for Hawaii to adopt this law,” said Peg Sandeen, executive director of the Death with Dignity National Center, a nonprofit advocacy group. “The safeguards Hawaii state legislators have enacted into this law will ensure that patients are in control of this process and make their own decisions at every step of the way — as is their right.”

Allowing medically assisted death has been a divisive issue in Hawaii. Last year, a similar measure passed the state Senate but was later tabled in the House.

https://www.apnews.com/91a066e44af6...ally-assisted-suicide-becomes-legal-in-Hawaii​

 

[Tink]

Sad to see these men taking their own lives..

Avicii found dead in Oman at 28
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-21/avicii-found-dead-in-oman-at-28/9683252

Shane Yarran found dead in Perth
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-...rs-afl-player-shane-yarran-found-dead/9682202

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Family Stress and Teenage Self Harm and Suicide
https://www.aussiestockforums.com/threads/family-stress-and-teenage-self-harm-and-suicide.33425/

 

[DB008]

Sad to see these men taking their own lives..

Avicii found dead in Oman at 28
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-21/avicii-found-dead-in-oman-at-28/9683252

Avicii's death wasn't suicide.

He had suffered from health problems for several years, including acute pancreatitis, in part due to excessive drinking. He had his gallbladder and appendix removed in 2014.

 

[noirua]

Suicide thoughts can be because of long term depression or because everything suddenly goes negative and there is no way out. That happened to me after the 1987 stock market crash when I thought gold shares would rise as in 1973 - 1976. To cut a long story short, one can be consumed by financial demands way above assets and other matters pile on up. Maybe give everything still left away to charity and end it all. At least that is a smack in the teeth to creditors and others.

 

[DB008]

It is with great sadness and incredibly heavy hearts to write that Verne passed away today.

 

[DB008]

104-year-old academic David Goodall to travel to Switzerland for voluntary euthanasia
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104-year-old academic David Goodall has confirmed he plans to fly to Europe this week to end his life, but he resents the fact that he has been left with no other choice.

After repeated failed attempts at suicide over the past 12 months, the 104-year-old has made the decision to travel to Switzerland, where voluntary assisted dying is legal.

Dr Goodall will fly to Bordeaux on Wednesday to visit family before making his final journey to the Swiss city of Basel, where an end of life clinic has approved his application to die through voluntary euthanasia.

"I don't want to go to Switzerland, though it's a nice country," Dr Goodall said.

"But I have to do that in order to get the opportunity of suicide which the Australian system does not permit.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-...-switzerland-for-voluntary-euthanasia/9714292​

 

[Tink]

It was stated by the family that Avicii's death was suicide, DB.

Following the tragic passing of the beloved Swedish DJ Avicii, his family have now confirmed that the 28-year-old's death as suicide.

 

[SirRumpole]

104-year-old academic David Goodall to travel to Switzerland for voluntary euthanasia
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104-year-old academic David Goodall has confirmed he plans to fly to Europe this week to end his life, but he resents the fact that he has been left with no other choice.

After repeated failed attempts at suicide over the past 12 months, the 104-year-old has made the decision to travel to Switzerland, where voluntary assisted dying is legal.

Dr Goodall will fly to Bordeaux on Wednesday to visit family before making his final journey to the Swiss city of Basel, where an end of life clinic has approved his application to die through voluntary euthanasia.

"I don't want to go to Switzerland, though it's a nice country," Dr Goodall said.

"But I have to do that in order to get the opportunity of suicide which the Australian system does not permit.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-...-switzerland-for-voluntary-euthanasia/9714292​

A very sad end to a good life well lived.

Sad that he has to do it elsewhere.

 

[noirua]

A very sad end to a good life well lived.

Sad that he has to do it elsewhere.

This is all very tricky. Only a Highest Court should be allowed to make a decision.
Belgium and Netherlands are alternatives though it needs a court to decide after an application is made.

Warning * Do not click on this link if you are of a nervous disposition.
First child dies by euthanasia in Belgium
* https://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/17/health/belgium-minor-euthanasia/index.html

Legality of euthanasia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_euthanasia

Belgium Euthanasia Law in Effect - 2002
http://euthanasia.com/belgiumlaw.html

Belgium's parliament votes through child euthanasia
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26181615

 

[DB008]

It was stated by the family that Avicii's death was suicide, DB.

My apologies if l was incorrect

 

[Tink]

Thanks, noirua and DB.

As I said, I agreed with Trump

The sanctity of life and the family, as the foundation of our society.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/president-trump-addresses-45th-march-life/

 

[DB008]

Big write up on the ABC about David Goodall and his farewell

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-...-switzerland-for-voluntary-euthanasia/9716354

 

[lindsayf]

A very sad end to a good life well lived.

Sad that he has to do it elsewhere.

I guess each end is sad. But this one was on his terms, more or less. I am happy for him. A good life and in it's own way a good ending.

 

[noirua]

'Brain-dead' US boy regains consciousness one day before doctors set to pull plug
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/wor...iousness-one-day-before-doctors-set-pull-plug
Slowly but surely, Trenton is making strides beyond what anyone expected, but it’s not without a struggle.

 

[cynic]

'Brain-dead' US boy regains consciousness one day before doctors set to pull plug
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/wor...iousness-one-day-before-doctors-set-pull-plug
Slowly but surely, Trenton is making strides beyond what anyone expected, but it’s not without a struggle.

This leads one to wonder, how many "miracles" may have been prematurely "nipped in the bud".

Those faced with such an uncomfortable decision (withdrawal of life support from a, tragedy beset, beloved) followed by the prospect of a life, haunted by doubts as to whether or not the best choice was made, have my sympathy.