I chanced upon this letter from EC online. Just posting it as I dont believe I have seen it posted here before..
http://www.theage.com.au/ed_docs/response_to_Michael_West_article.pdf
The part where he talk about client "mass client briefings" as been not true, but rather an investor update in october is a load. I went to a briefing along with about 400-600 other stormers in Brisbane, Ithink the date was th 4th of november, can anyone confirm.
Anyway, this is just a bit of trivia really, posted purely for others that have not seen it.
I chanced upon this letter from EC online. Just posting it as I dont believe I have seen it posted here before..
http://www.theage.com.au/ed_docs/response_to_Michael_West_article.pdf
The part where he talk about client "mass client briefings" as been not true, but rather an investor update in october is a load. I went to a briefing along with about 400-600 other stormers in Brisbane, Ithink the date was th 4th of november, can anyone confirm.
Anyway, this is just a bit of trivia really, posted purely for others that have not seen it.
Something seems to be up at http://sicag.info/
They are stating that Ross Goodridge has accepted an invitation from Stuart Levitt to attend the rescheduled information meeting in Townsville on Saturday 27th March.
My Stormer friends are not SICAG members.
Is anybody willing to share and give more info about what this is all about ?
Monario, maybe this will jog a few memories...
Relationships with lawyers are business arragngements but some people are looking for a saviour.
This is all about lawyers seeing $ available . . . Firths, thus Goodridge tied up with Cassimatises, who by the way offered to fund Sean McArdle's legal actions and to whom he has talked regularly in the last year (he has stated).
Levitt and Robinson are lawyers for ex-storm advisers - why sign up with them? And isn't there a conflict of interest here? Want $10,000-$15,000 per client to launch a class action against CWB. My info is that this is not their area of expertise.
Some stormified think that they should get back their portfolio, which was mainly margin and home loan/s because of high LVRs.
The saga continues
It may be worth summarising some lessons from this debacle.
1. don't trust financial advisers/financial houses/lawyers.
2. don't trust banks
3. do your own research
4. don't put your house up as collateral for a margin loan.
5. if you don't know anything about investing don't invest.
6. don't trust anybody.
7. don't believe people based on emotion, gut feeling.
8. avoid cults
9. read all posts on aussiestockforums and then read again before investing.
10. those who have been ripped off are also likely to be further ripped off by some of those offering to help. (go to 1. and keep on repeating.)
gg
Just a reminder to those who are still to commit funds to lawyers in an attempt to recoup their Storm losses, posted in January 2009.
gg
Just a reminder to those who are still to commit funds to lawyers in an attempt to recoup their Storm losses, posted in January 2009.
gg
Your post is so true.
To all of you who think they will win against the banks, you are in for a shock.
My bet is you will find that the banks have WON, and the storm holders will get shafted AGAIN.GG
I dont believe there is any more bad news for Storm Investors per se - perhaps some news that may worry certain Storm Directors and a Qld bank.
I do see that the AFR are reporting that the Bank of Qld will be first cab off the rank in the Slater and Gordon action:
"BoQ in eye of first Storm case
Wednesday, 22 April 2009 | The Australian Financial Review | Duncan Hughes
Bank of Queensland will be sued for negligence and several breaches of the Trade Practices Act in the first case for victims of the collapse of Townsville-based Storm Financial Services."
http://www.afr.com/home/login.aspx?ATL://20090422000031066180§ion=Financial Services
The AFR certainly have their teeth into the Storm / CBA / BOQ saga!!!
To all those Storm clients - hang in there!!! I know u are doing it tough but there are a number of good people in there fighting for u and we all knew up front this would be a tough fight.
You are going to bring the banks to justice, Mate, you MUST be on DRUGS.
You have been screwed by sales people, get over it.
If for one minute you think you will win against the banks, bend over you are going to get screwed again.
As long as a lawyer some place can still make out of this it will never be over, the ONLY thing thats over is any hope of the punters getting ANY money back at all.
Carey, you say that Storm holders will get some thing, I will tell you what they are going to get, they will be conned out of more money, by the way I have a real big bridge for sale in Sydney will make you a lot of money, are you interested??
Hi all.
I need a little help with a report that I am writting.
Does anyone(hopefully all will) recall the comments that the online information regarding gearing levels etc. available to clients of Macquarie and CBA as been incorrect. Can anyone supply a little more detail on this, dates this was happening, has it been confirmed etc.
Thanks
Wow, so sorry, would you mind telling us of just one person who has got some thing back yet??? many thanks in advance.Just a word of caution to any ex-stormers who may be inclined to take any notice of Pilot's wisdom - he (and several others) obviously believed that none of us would see a single cent in compensation from any bank - that view has since proven to be incorrect, as the outcome of the Slater & Gordon/CBA resolution has shown.
I'd urge any of you to make up your own minds, assisted by advice from those qualified to give it if desired.
Hi Everyone
Been a while and thought i would drop by.
It is good to see ASIC now placing pressure on the other banks to implement resolution schemes which should bring relief to those who have been left in the cold till now.
I have seen quite a few CBA deals and they look pretty fair IMHO. I should point out that they were brokered by a former High Court Judge who is very well respected so in reality the outcome achieved is similar to running a very long and expensive court case that is ultimately decided in the High Court. People seem to have forgotten this - both CBA and Slaters agreed to be bound by the decision. They also need to remember that a very large proportion of their portfolio was debt not equity and that a lot of equity was lost due to falling markets that impacted everyone not just Stormers.
Some of the clients i have seen take settlements are now back in the market which is close to where they were when they sold out (without the margin loans this time!!!) so they stand to gain as the market recovers.
I also hear that 60 Minutes are sniffing round so that should be very interesting. There is plenty more to come out still.
Also congrats to Duncan Hughes of the AFR for winning the walkley award for his storm coverage and Tony Raggatt of the Townsville Bulletin for winning News Ltd business journalist of the year again for his storm coverage. It is investigative journalism by all that have covered this saga that has been responsible for much of the progress acheived to date. Lets hope it continues till everything has been exposed.
Wow, so sorry, would you mind telling us of just one person who has got some thing back yet??? many thanks in advance.
I had this response:
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As for the CBA/Colonial, while I have no doubt that they are not acting in my best interests, at least they had the temerity to ring me up, apologise, and ask how they could remedy the situation, and fix the errors they incurred. Which is more than can be said for some. My mother was one of the test cases and has been awarded a six-figure settlement. It would be fair to say that this is just.
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CBA has so far made settlement offers to 350 of Slater & Gordon's clients whose claims involved margin loans. More than 150 clients have accepted the offers.
(originally posted by Pilots... ) GG, How true your post is, come back here in two years and we will see the same people crying about how they have been milked again.
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