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"Storm founder and investors hold secret meeting"
"Emmanuel Cassimatis, founder and ex-chief executive of Storm Financial, is believed to be seeking support from former investors in his collapsed company to bring a legal action against the Commonwealth Bank of Australia."
Read more by Duncan Hughes in The Australian Financial Review of Sept 10, 2009.
Well Mr. Liddy, I know for a fact that some of those loans were paid out by very stressed customers through funds obtained from family and/or sale of assets (homes, other shares, property etc) and smaller loans (for balances still owing) at a cheaper rate than BoQ's rate from other banks.
I also am aware that many customers have had funds placed in dam accounts set up by Storm and have been able to make home loan repayments for approximately six to 12 months. This was what being self-funded retirees meant...the fund making the repayments.
Storm damage
Andrew Fraser | September 17, 2009
Article from: The Australian
TOWNSVILLE man Trevor Power was unemployed when he got a loan through Storm Financial in 2003. The trouble was, he never knew who was lending him the money until he received a bank statement from Macquarie Bank that showed him in debt to it.
"It was all done at Storm, all Storm letterheads. I never once saw a bank document until we started getting statements, and it was Macquarie," he told last week's Townsville sitting of the Parliamentary Joint Committee on Corporations and Financial Services. He wasn't the only witness before the inquiry who expressed surprise about his real financial dealings after what he had been told and led to believe by representatives of Storm Financial.
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I was a Storm 'victim', but my partner and I knew EXACTLY how much money we were borrowing from exactly which financial institution. It was all written on page 2 in layman's terms on our SOA.
The biggest thing that has made me angry, is that we weren't in margin call, and yet our investment was sold at the bottom of the market without any consultation to us by Colonial, and our margin loan paid back at a loss with the proceeds, despite us having extra assets and money in a joined CMA to avoid margin call. We knew what was going on, and we didn't even have a house betting on it....just a block of our savings as a young couple.
For people to claim 'Storm borrowed $1 million for me, and I didn't know about it' is absolute bollocks. You might not have understood the section that read 'we propose you borrow $1 million from bank X to invest into your existing Storm index fund', but for all of their faults, Storm never put a gun to people's head and made them sign for ridiculous loans.
My heart goes out to the majority of fellow Storm investors, but there are a number of people now pulling the Alan Bond 'I have low IQ and don't know what I was doing' card to avoid responsibility for their own apathy.
If millions of dollars of my super and retirement was on the line, I would have been down at the Storm office in person everyday demanding to see what was going on, and same for Colonial Lending. I hate to say it, but it's endemic of society nowadays, no one takes any responsibility for anything, Manny, the banks and Storm customers included.
Not sinking a boot in, but hopefully people learn from this.
I was a Storm 'victim', but my partner and I knew EXACTLY how much money we were borrowing from exactly which financial institution. It was all written on page 2 in layman's terms on our SOA.
The biggest thing that has made me angry, is that we weren't in margin call, and yet our investment was sold at the bottom of the market without any consultation to us by Colonial, and our margin loan paid back at a loss with the proceeds, despite us having extra assets and money in a joined CMA to avoid margin call. We knew what was going on, and we didn't even have a house betting on it....just a block of our savings as a young couple.
For people to claim 'Storm borrowed $1 million for me, and I didn't know about it' is absolute bollocks. You might not have understood the section that read 'we propose you borrow $1 million from bank X to invest into your existing Storm index fund', but for all of their faults, Storm never put a gun to people's head and made them sign for ridiculous loans.
My heart goes out to the majority of fellow Storm investors, but there are a number of people now pulling the Alan Bond 'I have low IQ and don't know what I was doing' card to avoid responsibility for their own apathy.
If millions of dollars of my super and retirement was on the line, I would have been down at the Storm office in person everyday demanding to see what was going on, and same for Colonial Lending. I hate to say it, but it's endemic of society nowadays, no one takes any responsibility for anything, Manny, the banks and Storm customers included.
Not sinking a boot in, but hopefully people learn from this.
Thanks for that link, Judd. I've only skimmed through it but it certainly appears that the Committee are being most diligent.I am probably wrong as usual but I think I see a glimmer of why some investors were sold out without consultation even though they could have met any margin call. It probably would have been sending good money after bad.
Have a read of the evidence from CBA of 4 September and in particular the CBA comments on pages 101 and 102. The value of the funds due to redemptions and the market went from $700m to $46m in six weeks. As the CBA said some $11m per fund. At that level they were not viable apparently and so were closed.
I am hazarding a guess that meeting a margin call would mean that one individuals money would have been spread across all other remaining investors, ie pooled, and not changed the viability of that fund in any way shape or form.
http://www.aph.gov.au/hansard/joint/commttee/J12379.pdf
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