Same here.Most of my opinions are based on peoples work ethic and respect for themselves. Im someone is prepared to 'have a go' and do something with their life then im more than happy to talk/associate/etc with them, but if they are a perpetual whinger than i dont have time for them.
how about on the basis of effort, knowledge, manners, respect, self-improvement, contribution or common decency?
guilty of snobbery on all counts your honour
i agree with snobbery based on superficial aspects being lame, but with regards to being a productive, positive contributor to society, (or at least attempting to be), then i definately categorise people into "classes". when i walk past a dishevelled 20 something begging for change in the middle of the CBD its snob overdrive.
I'm a snob.
I look down on people with poor table manners, who don't cut their nails, who don't appreciate a wine, who think bourbon is good stuff, who wear tracksuits down the street, who never watch ABC, who think Disneyland is the pinnacle reason to travel, who wear labels so people can see who ripped them off, who don't appreciate good food, who think if you go to see a stage play you must be gay, who think Asian food is disgusting, who think celebrities are someone worth talking about.
Sorry Wayne, if I invited you round and you came in looking like Michael Moore, I wouldn't be impressed.
I could go on and on.
K22
To see true snobbery in action you have to come to the UK. Here people are judged as worthy to know or not based on things like accent.
There are good comments in this thread, but I don't think folks have a real handle on what true snobbery is.
- Warren BuffetOf the billionaires I have known, money just brings out the basic traits in them. If they were jerks before they had money, they are simply jerks with a billion dollars.
Snobbery is when a "working class" person is never accepted no matter how hard they try to better themselves, because they have the wrong accent or whatever. This I hate. Give me a working class person who respects themselves and others, over a highly bred chinless wonder who looks down on people any day.
Missus comes from a family that has titled aristos in it so have the opportunity to see both sides of the "class" (a word I hate) divide. She has every reason to be a snob, but hates it too... probably more than me.
There are good comments in this thread, but I don't think folks have a real handle on what true snobbery is.
I've met tradesmen and factory-workers with more class than some fat, rude bastard chomping on a cigar as he sits double parked in his E-Class Merc, or the rude bitch at the David Jones counter.
I'm anti snob to everything and everyone except SMOKERS!
i understand the difference. that is one of the huge differences between australia and england and i am proud of my society that we left the whole "birthright elitism" behind. there's a lot of BS in england (as you alluded to) but i am proud of the fact there here in australia its your deeds rather than your blood that count.
i look up to people based on their skills and intelligence, regardless of whether they are a tradesman or professionals, and i want to learn from (and emulate) the people who have a go, stand by their ideals, and know things that have value to society. though i must say some of the more common modes of speech grate my nerves. the f and c words fly around a little too often amongst tradies for my liking
Glad to hear it, Wayne. I also had that impression from your first post.Knobby, I would never be so rude as to turn up looking like MM.
Of course there's a difference. The poorest, most ill educated person can still have integrity and courage.Perhaps there is a difference between standards, self respect and snobbery.
And we should count ourselves fortunate for that imo.There are good comments in this thread, but I don't think folks have a real handle on what true snobbery is.
Perfectly describes it for me also.I am not a snob in the modern term by any means. In growing older though, i have come to appreciate those that can hold a decent debate with me, have real honest opinions, and call a spade a spade.
I like REAL people, and i don't care what they wear, drink, eat or what god they pray too, or how much money they make, as long as they are decent people with integrity.
Well if that counts as being a snob, then I guess I'm more of a snob than I realise.Agree wholeheartedly with the points here.
Knobby, I would never be so rude as to turn up looking like MM.
Perhaps there is a difference between standards, self respect and snobbery. I like standards, but I hate snobbery. To see true snobbery in action you have to come to the UK. Here people are judged as worthy to know or not based on things like accent.
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Snobbery is when a "working class" person is never accepted no matter how hard they try to better themselves, because they have the wrong accent or whatever. This I hate. Give me a working class person who respects themselves and others, over a highly bred chinless wonder who looks down on people any day.
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Yes, we all speak essentially similar so Australia will have to develop class consciousness on other grounds............
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