Snob or Anti-Snob

[scanspeak]

Sometimes I'm a snob and sometimes I'm anti-snob. I judge people on their behaviour and hate tall-poppy syndrome.

In my own life I've been at rock bottom and I've also been sky high.

I've met tradesmen and factory-workers with more class than some fat, rude bastard chomping on a cigar as he sits double parked in his E-Class Merc, or the rude bitch at the David Jones counter.

My pet hate - loutish footballers who think they're gods gift (and the sycophants that agree with them).

 

[Smurf1976]

Most of my opinions are based on peoples work ethic and respect for themselves. Im someone is prepared to 'have a go' and do something with their life then im more than happy to talk/associate/etc with them, but if they are a perpetual whinger than i dont have time for them.

Same here.

I've been on both sides of the wealth divide more than once and if there's one thing I've learnt from that it's that security, not wealth, brings happiness.

I could have a new car if I wanted to, but I'd rather keep the cash (security...) and keep the 9 year old car whilst it's running fine. Just can't see the point in spending $ to buy something I don't actually need so as to impress people I don't like anyway.

 

[inenigma]

I don't suffer fools gladly. I respect intelligent people. So by the classical definition I think I would have to say I'm a snob, but, I've had bogans look down their nose at me because of the way I dress. I don't live in the Eastern Suburbs and I don't live in a council flat.

 

[Gordon Gekko]

I'm anti snob to everything and everyone except SMOKERS!

I find them to be week people. I think cigs should be 20$ per pack with a warning label that reads if you get cancer as a result of your habit you are completely on your own with regards to health care costs.

I'm a reformed smoker so you know we always got an opinion


G

 

[white_goodman]

im a snob in the sense I dislike dumb people, not so much a money thing

 

[waza1960]

Seems that the definition of a snob varies somewhat.
I am a snob and proud of it and when I become wealthy I could become a Super Snob.
What this means to me is that I will not look down on people who are trying to improve their lives .I will not be impressed by anyone who is trying to be somebody their not.I will have the fine things in life not to impress but because I like and desire them.

 

[wayneL]

how about on the basis of effort, knowledge, manners, respect, self-improvement, contribution or common decency?

guilty of snobbery on all counts your honour

i agree with snobbery based on superficial aspects being lame, but with regards to being a productive, positive contributor to society, (or at least attempting to be), then i definately categorise people into "classes". when i walk past a dishevelled 20 something begging for change in the middle of the CBD its snob overdrive.

I'm a snob.

I look down on people with poor table manners, who don't cut their nails, who don't appreciate a wine, who think bourbon is good stuff, who wear tracksuits down the street, who never watch ABC, who think Disneyland is the pinnacle reason to travel, who wear labels so people can see who ripped them off, who don't appreciate good food, who think if you go to see a stage play you must be gay, who think Asian food is disgusting, who think celebrities are someone worth talking about.

Sorry Wayne, if I invited you round and you came in looking like Michael Moore, I wouldn't be impressed.

I could go on and on.

K22

Well if that counts as being a snob, then I guess I'm more of a snob than I realise. Agree wholeheartedly with the points here.

Knobby, I would never be so rude as to turn up looking like MM.

Perhaps there is a difference between standards, self respect and snobbery. I like standards, but I hate snobbery. To see true snobbery in action you have to come to the UK. Here people are judged as worthy to know or not based on things like accent.

Snobbery is when a "working class" person is never accepted no matter how hard they try to better themselves, because they have the wrong accent or whatever. This I hate. Give me a working class person who respects themselves and others, over a highly bred chinless wonder who looks down on people any day.

Missus comes from a family that has titled aristos in it so have the opportunity to see both sides of the "class" (a word I hate) divide. She has every reason to be a snob, but hates it too... probably more than me.

There are good comments in this thread, but I don't think folks have a real handle on what true snobbery is.

 

[Wysiwyg]

Stripped bare, alone in the forest, with the on-set of dusk, you will find no snobbery.

 

[CanOz]

I am not a snob in the modern term by any means. In growing older though, i have come to appreciate those that can hold a decent debate with me, have real honest opinions, and call a spade a spade.

I like REAL people, and i don't care what they wear, drink, eat or what god they pray too, or how much money they make, as long as they are decent people with integrity.

Cheers,


CanOz

 

[disarray]

To see true snobbery in action you have to come to the UK. Here people are judged as worthy to know or not based on things like accent.

There are good comments in this thread, but I don't think folks have a real handle on what true snobbery is.

i understand the difference. that is one of the huge differences between australia and england and i am proud of my society that we left the whole "birthright elitism" behind. there's a lot of BS in england (as you alluded to) but i am proud of the fact there here in australia its your deeds rather than your blood that count.

i look up to people based on their skills and intelligence, regardless of whether they are a tradesman or professionals, and i want to learn from (and emulate) the people who have a go, stand by their ideals, and know things that have value to society. though i must say some of the more common modes of speech grate my nerves. the f and c words fly around a little too often amongst tradies for my liking

 

[Mr J]

Mostly middle ground I think, but probably also a bit of both.

 

[jono1887]

Of the billionaires I have known, money just brings out the basic traits in them. If they were jerks before they had money, they are simply jerks with a billion dollars.

- Warren Buffet

 

[BradK]

Well, it seems that most of us are snobbish ba$tards, Wayne. Did you see that coming?

Brad

 

[moXJO]

Snobbery is when a "working class" person is never accepted no matter how hard they try to better themselves, because they have the wrong accent or whatever. This I hate. Give me a working class person who respects themselves and others, over a highly bred chinless wonder who looks down on people any day.

Missus comes from a family that has titled aristos in it so have the opportunity to see both sides of the "class" (a word I hate) divide. She has every reason to be a snob, but hates it too... probably more than me.

There are good comments in this thread, but I don't think folks have a real handle on what true snobbery is.

You get this attitude (to a lesser degree) in certain suburbs from the upper middle class wannabes. I get this on occasion when quoting for jobs. I always charge twice as much to fit their perceived reality.

 

[MrBurns]

Snob, except when it suits me to be otherwise like when in the presence of bogans, say at a pub, who will beat the crap out of you if they detect you're looking down on them.

Everybody alters their tone of voice and attitude when speaking to someone they are told is extremely wealthy, I've noticed it many times, the poor also press their noses against the windows of exclusive restaurants to see how the others live, it puts one of ones caviar.

Poor people scare me at times they are so angry and bitter, especially as I zoom pass them in my Porsche with the horn blaring, it's amusing to see them try to catch me in their 1970 Nissan Cedric or whatever it was.

So yes, snob I guess.

 

[gooner]

I've met tradesmen and factory-workers with more class than some fat, rude bastard chomping on a cigar as he sits double parked in his E-Class Merc, or the rude bitch at the David Jones counter.

Exactly. Anyone else notice it is always the Mercs and BMW's speeding in the transit lane with only the driver and no passengers. Money is no indication of the value of a human being only of how good they are at inheriting, stealing or earning money.

I'm anti snob to everything and everyone except SMOKERS!

What a sound opinion. I hate smokers - smelly breath in lifts, smoke in your face in the street or park. Somehow this is generally socially acceptable whereas me farting in a smoker's face is not.

i understand the difference. that is one of the huge differences between australia and england and i am proud of my society that we left the whole "birthright elitism" behind. there's a lot of BS in england (as you alluded to) but i am proud of the fact there here in australia its your deeds rather than your blood that count.

i look up to people based on their skills and intelligence, regardless of whether they are a tradesman or professionals, and i want to learn from (and emulate) the people who have a go, stand by their ideals, and know things that have value to society. though i must say some of the more common modes of speech grate my nerves. the f and c words fly around a little too often amongst tradies for my liking

It used to be your title that was important, now it is often money that is the key measure of whether someone is successful or of high status. But money as a measure is of course crap. Plenty of rich people are unhappy with disfunctional lives. And plenty of poor people lead happy, fulfilled lives.

 

[Julia]

Knobby, I would never be so rude as to turn up looking like MM.

Glad to hear it, Wayne. I also had that impression from your first post.

Perhaps there is a difference between standards, self respect and snobbery.

Of course there's a difference. The poorest, most ill educated person can still have integrity and courage.

There are good comments in this thread, but I don't think folks have a real handle on what true snobbery is.

And we should count ourselves fortunate for that imo.

I am not a snob in the modern term by any means. In growing older though, i have come to appreciate those that can hold a decent debate with me, have real honest opinions, and call a spade a spade.

I like REAL people, and i don't care what they wear, drink, eat or what god they pray too, or how much money they make, as long as they are decent people with integrity.

Perfectly describes it for me also.

 

[Knobby22]

Well if that counts as being a snob, then I guess I'm more of a snob than I realise. Agree wholeheartedly with the points here.

Knobby, I would never be so rude as to turn up looking like MM.

Perhaps there is a difference between standards, self respect and snobbery. I like standards, but I hate snobbery. To see true snobbery in action you have to come to the UK. Here people are judged as worthy to know or not based on things like accent.

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Snobbery is when a "working class" person is never accepted no matter how hard they try to better themselves, because they have the wrong accent or whatever. This I hate. Give me a working class person who respects themselves and others, over a highly bred chinless wonder who looks down on people any day.

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Yes, we all speak essentially similar so Australia will have to develop class consciousness on other grounds. No, actually it must be so hard in GBR for some people. I think in Australia you are judged more on the person rather than what you own or who you went to school with though that is not really true among Chartered Accounting firms from what I hear.

 

[gooner]

Yes, we all speak essentially similar so Australia will have to develop class consciousness on other grounds............

Agree not as pronounced differences as UK, but still a big difference here in Sydney between eastern suburbs accents and western suburbs one.

 

[theasxgorilla]

Snob. As a friend of mine said not so long ago, "I know I am, life is too short not to be". Although when I read Wayne's original post, I don't feel like I want to be one. On the other hand, when I read BradK's post, it resonates.

Snob, on the premise that scumbags do exist and they should all bloody try a bit harder.