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basilio said:
But when he becomes effectively independent all bets would be off. I wouldn't expect anything else of the Liberal party

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/po...lings-with-ashby-albanese-20120505-1y5ai.html
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Are you suggesting the Labor Party would not equally relish the opportunity if the position of the parties were reversed?

In the end, it doesn't matter who had what meetings with whom. The accusation of the sexual harassment stands and will be tested in court.

Ditto the investigation into the shonky cab charge vouchers will be hopefully be thorough and will not enjoy the delaying tactics displayed by e.g. the HSU investigation.

Or are you suggesting, basilio, that the Libs actually created the salacious text messages received by Mr Ashby, and that they similarly managed to manipulate Mr Slipper's signature on his blank taxi dockets and submit them to the cab charge company for payment?

Should we assume from your implied allegation that the Libs have somehow engineered this whole tawdry business that you believe it's all lies and unworthy of proper investigation?
 
The above link seems unavailable to non-subscribers. Could you give us the gist of what it's about?
 
basilio said:
Mal Brough has been undermining Peter Slipper for 2 years to get pre selection for his seat. I suppose while Peter was part of the Liberal party they couldn't really investigate him too closely because they would lose a precious vote..

But when he becomes effectively independent all bets would be off. I wouldn't expect anything else of the Liberal party

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/po...lings-with-ashby-albanese-20120505-1y5ai.html
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Mal Brough doesn't need to "undermine" - if that is what you want to call it - Slippery Pete in order to get pre-selection for his seat. No party will EVER again endorse Slippery, even if he manages to stay out of jail.

Why all the fuss? What did Mal Brough do that was wrong? Ashby apparently approached him and asked for advice. Brough told him to get a lawyer. All quite legit and above board. Where is the conspiracy? The increasingly desperate Labour Party is just trying to deflect blame from itself - as usual.
 
The issue with Pyne and Brough is that they lied or implied an untruth of their actions not what they actually did typical Abbott form look forward to continued deceptive behavior once the coalition is in power.
 
IFocus said:
The issue with Pyne and Brough is that they lied or implied an untruth of their actions not what they actually did typical Abbott form look forward to continued deceptive behavior once the coalition is in power.
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What if Ashby had gone to Pyne and Brough in confidence? Would you expect to break any such confidence? I think you are trying to brew a storm in a tea cup...:D


Julia said:
The above link seems unavailable to non-subscribers. Could you give us the gist of what it's about?
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Julia, there is a small mention of it on page 14 of the Sunday Mail if you have it.

And a mention of it in this article:

A second staffer in Mr Slipper's office, press secretary Karen Doane, has gone on leave, in news conveyed to the Speaker's office by Mr Ashby's legal firm Harmers. Harmers declined to comment on whether they were also representing Ms Doane.
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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...lipper-and-ashby/story-e6freuy9-1226347610375
 
IFocus said:
The issue with Pyne and Brough is that they lied or implied an untruth of their actions not what they actually did typical Abbott form look forward to continued deceptive behavior once the coalition is in power.
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Yes. It would have been wiser to tell the questioners to mind their own business.
 
Julia said:
The above link seems unavailable to non-subscribers. Could you give us the gist of what it's about?
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There wasn't much more in the article about that specific issue than what I quoted.

Through a Google search, the whole article vwas displayed, but clisk the link and it's indeed subscribers only.
 
drsmith said:
The government doesn't want James Ashby to have his day in court, according to the following headline.

http://afr.com/p/national/govt_seeks_to_strike_out_ashby_claims_3H0oZNQvmUBCnz3F5ryqSP
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Ashby needs to get on to his Union Rep.

He or she will sort it out.

Thank god for unions, eh, otherwise the workers would get rooted by emp...............

....... now where was I. this is like a bad dream.


Ashby needs to get on to his Union Rep.

He or she will sort it out.

Thank god for unions, eh, otherwise the workers would get rooted by emp...............

....... now where was I. this is like a bad dream.


Ashby needs to get on to his Union Rep.

He or she will sort it out.

Thank god for unions, eh, otherwise the workers would get rooted by emp...............

....... now where was I. this is like a bad dream.


Ashby needs to get on to his Union Rep.

He or she will sort it out.

Thank god for unions, eh, otherwise the workers would get rooted by emp...............

....... now where was I. this is like a bad dream.


gg
 
drsmith said:
The government doesn't want James Ashby to have his day in court, according to the following headline.

http://afr.com/p/national/govt_seeks_to_strike_out_ashby_claims_3H0oZNQvmUBCnz3F5ryqSP
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Kangaroo Court of Australia has this to say on the judge chosen to hear the case (unless the government somehow circumvent it). The writer of this article explains his claims:

Peter Slipper strikes it lucky and lands corrupt federal court judge Steven Rares to hear his sexual harassment case.
 
drsmith said:
The government doesn't want James Ashby to have his day in court, according to the following headline.

http://afr.com/p/national/govt_seeks_to_strike_out_ashby_claims_3H0oZNQvmUBCnz3F5ryqSP
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Another article which is unavailable to non-subscribers.
Of course the government doesn't want Mr Ashby to have anything to say at all, but I'd be interested to know how they're going to stop the process.

sails said:
Kangaroo Court of Australia has this to say on the judge chosen to hear the case (unless the government somehow circumvent it). The writer of this article explains his claims:

Peter Slipper strikes it lucky and lands corrupt federal court judge Steven Rares to hear his sexual harassment case.
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Good heavens, that seems to make the writer open to a charge of libel.
I've never heard of the "Kangaroo Court" and suppose no one knows who is behind it, so he/she can say whatever they like.
What courage, huh!
 
Mr. Ashby appears to me as an innocent cast way out of his league.

I do hope that the political machines do not conspire against him and destroy him.

gg
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
Mr. Ashby appears to me as an innocent cast way out of his league.

I do hope that the political machines do not conspire against him and destroy him.

gg
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Ashby's motives over Slipper allegations dubious, say lawyers
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This has Abbott's and the Liberal party finger prints all over it Barnaby is only to well aware.

As for your innocent claim note Barnaby's comments.......

He said Mr Ashby ''seems only slightly less dodgy than Slipper''.
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In an interview with the Herald, Senator Joyce cast doubt on Mr Ashby's bona fides after it emerged he met three times with Mr Slipper's sworn political enemy, the former Howard government minister Mal Brough.

Senator Joyce said if Mr Brough was ''going to play marriage guidance counsellor'', he should have heard both sides of the story before advising Mr Ashby on what action to take.

He said Mr Ashby ''seems only slightly less dodgy than Slipper''.
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Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...say-lawyers-20120517-1ytnw.html#ixzz1vAkVFpGf
 
It's hard to see that Joyce had an ulterior motive. Perhaps he was just telling it as he saw it.
 
So Pyne lied and evidence shows much collaboration with Slipper"s accuser.

All I can say can be summed up in the following quote from Douglas Adams:

If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands.
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
Mr. Ashby appears to me as an innocent cast way out of his league.

I do hope that the political machines do not conspire against him and destroy him.

gg
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Well it will probably grind up Jackson, so I cannot see Ashby missing out.
The more sincere you appear to be, the more they dial up "damage mode"!
Just leaves us to wonder how many arms and fingers are competing to turn the knob!!!
joea
 
Knobby22 said:
So Pyne lied and evidence shows much collaboration with Slipper"s accuser.
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Do you mean with regard to having sent him an email? Or have I missed something vitally more important?

I'm not at all defending any politician who is not truthful, but isn't it just a fairly unimportant side issue if he did email Ashby for his Parliament House email address?
Isn't the actual issue still whether or not sexual harassment occurred and if the text messages can demonstrate this?
 
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