Do you also consider the jews who came here escaping nazi germany to be "queue jumpers", its far easier and cheaper to come here legally rather than going through dodgy Indonesian people smugglers.
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what kind of bullsh1t generalisation comment is that?
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Boat Person:
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Let me look at other possibility of:
Trained in personal explosives person, sponsored to act as somebody who wants to start new life. Spreads hatred, organises small groups of special interests, or lays low as S L E E P E R.
So far, we were lucky as attempts were intercepted, but at what cost?
Police and all other staff involved in picking up bad things before they happen is additional tax on our life.
This is back door that due to new circumstances must be closed!
This is back door that due to new circumstances must be closed!
Trained in personal explosives person, sponsored to act as somebody who wants to start new life. Spreads hatred, organises small groups of special interests, or lays low as S L E E P E R.
So far, we were lucky as attempts were intercepted, but at what cost?
Police and all other staff involved in picking up bad things before they happen is additional tax on our life.
Trained in personal explosives person, sponsored to act as somebody who wants to start new life. Spreads hatred, organises small groups of special interests, or lays low as S L E E P E R.
The hospitality industry is held up by "backdoor immigration".
Hope everyone will be happy paying $50 a plate @ a restaurant and $4 for their morning latte'.
actually probaly more.
We wont pay $50 a plate, So the restaurants who cant afford to pay a decent wage to its staff and provide affordable food at the same time will shut down. Thats the way it should be.
I think Sidamo has made a good point, and as PJ O'rourke said recently while debating this subject" if someone is willing to spend all the money they own and risk their life, and the lives of their family just for the chance to live in our country, why would we not want them here?"
it's not our job to save the world, despite what the endless niave bleatings from the bleeding heart brigade would have you believe.
..................... but you just keep on forging ahead with dreaming your unsubstantiated fantasies and pass them off as fact.
Trembling Hand said:But we are part of a community, the global community, and therefore when we gain advantages, through trade/export etc, we must also recognise that its cannot be a one way street.... No one lasts long in a community just taking. Sooner or later that will not work.
Trembling Hand said:So there is no reason not to take our fair share of the desperate. If you cannot recognise that there are some truly woeful situations that individuals and groups find themselves in & have no control over, where a desperate flee is there only hope of staying alive then your are either deliberately kidding yourself or just a miserable *****.
and sidamo, your generalisations about europeans vs boat people are still stupid and woefully inaccurate. why you think people who are willing to ignore our rules and procedures to come here will suddenly become A-1 productive citizens is beyond me.
but bringing in vast numbers of people into this country and adding strain to our resources and social cohesion is hardly going to improve matters at the source.
Do you also consider the jews who came here escaping nazi germany to be "queue jumpers", its far easier and cheaper to come here legally rather than going through dodgy Indonesian people smugglers.
People from all different circumstances have both pros and cons for Australia. Ie refugees may cost more initially than other migrants but are more likely to fill jobs in the unskilled labour market as well as jobs that most Australians don’t want to do. Middle class brits/kiwis/asians bring extra skills from overseas but are less likely to stay here indefinitely and the government has less control over where these people live which aggravates the problem of housing shortages in the major cities.
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I think I can safely assume then that you are not an indigenous Australian, otherwise you would see the point you are arguing is somewhat flawed.
Sidamo said:See, there's where you're making your mistake. Australia is a signatory to the UN Convention on the Status of Refugees so we are *legally* required to accept all refugees who make it to our shores, and if they turn out to be genuine refugees, we're supposed to accept them.
Sidamo said:Can you provide any evidence that my generalisations are inaccurate?
Sidamo said:Like I mentioned before, I would imagine that people who have sacrificed *everything* they own and risked their lives to get here, would, more than likely, be extremely grateful and likely to grasp that opportunity with both hands and make the most of it.
Sidamo said:We seem to be bringing in well over 100,000 people a year anyway, half of whom seem to be hairdressers ... If you want to argue that we should stop ALL immigration, so be it, but there's no valid evidence for saying "let in 100,000 a year, but exclude the most desperate".
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