Skilled Immigration Changes

Aussiejeff · 8 February 2010

At last!!!!

Thousands of would-be migrants to Australia will have their applications cancelled as part of a federal government overhaul of the skilled migration program.

Immigration Minister Chris Evans on Monday announced Labor is reforming the permanent skilled migration program so it's demand rather than supply driven.

Highly skilled workers like healthcare, engineering and mining professionals will be among those most sought after under the new scheme.

Senator Evans said major changes he'll be making include cancelling and refunding the applications of 20,000 prospective migrants currently living overseas and tightening the list of occupations in demand so only highly skilled migrants will be eligible for a visa.

The points test used to assess migrants will be reviewed to ensure it selects only the best and brightest, state and territory-specific migration plans will be developed and certain occupations may be capped.

The new arrangements will give first priority to skilled migrants who have a job lined up with an Australian employer.

For those who don't have a professional sponsor, Senator Evans said the bar is being raised.

"There are plenty of occupations where there is an adequate supply of young Australians coming through our schools... to take up new job opportunities," he said in a statement.

"They must be given the opportunity to fill these vacancies first."

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/govt-tightens-immigration-policy-20100208-nl41.html

Hooray! At last, a small step to redress a massive shonk in the Australian Education sector, where thousands of young overseas students have been flooding into Australia's technical schooling system to train as cooks, hairdressers and accountants etc.. simply to gain permanent residency status - a form of "backdoor immigration". About bloody time I say...

Dowdy · 8 February 2010

Isn't this an election year?

I'm still not going to vote for him.

My memory isn't as short as most voters

moXJO · 8 February 2010

Aussiejeff said:
At last!!!!

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/govt-tightens-immigration-policy-20100208-nl41.html

Hooray! At last, a small step to redress a massive shonk in the Australian Education sector, where thousands of young overseas students have been flooding into Australia's technical schooling system to train as cooks, hairdressers and accountants etc.. simply to gain permanent residency status - a form of "backdoor immigration". About bloody time I say...

Awww... I was working on a construction site with some Chinese working on visa, and I was very impressed with the way they worked. All very happy and polite. There standard of work was very good as well.
Finding good workers is hard. A friend went through 23 apprentices to find a decent one that wanted to learn.
Immigration was reaching pretty high levels though, so was in two minds over this subject.

Trembling Hand · 8 February 2010

The hospitality industry is held up by "backdoor immigration".

Hope everyone will be happy paying $50 a plate @ a restaurant and $4 for their morning latte'.

actually probaly more.

dialect · 8 February 2010

Fact is most Aussies will not do the jobs the migrants that come on these visa's perform. Hence the truth must be said that the Australian economy has benefited enormously from these workers. Some of them paid thousands to get the Visa's and pay dodgy Australian "Education" providers for their courses.

Now there is a glut and we have enough people on these visa's in Australia that should suffice our Labour demands for the next few years. So the door is now closing, but I hope the government makes it easy for those who are already here who have worked hard and paid a lot of money to get here to stay here permanently.

And what we need now is an overhaul of our Education & Employment System, we have a generation of Australians who are poorly trained and have never seen a days hard work. Cant build a future with that kind of lot.

finnsk · 8 February 2010

Trembling Hand said:
The hospitality industry is held up by "backdoor immigration".

Hope everyone will be happy paying $50 a plate @ a restaurant and $4 for their morning latte'.

actually probaly more.

So true so true

Aussiejeff · 8 February 2010

Trembling Hand said:
The hospitality industry is held up by "backdoor immigration".

Hope everyone will be happy paying $50 a plate @ a restaurant and $4 for their morning latte'.

actually probaly more.

Good point. However, can't we pick up the slack by fast-tracking all those new "Christmas Islander's"??

vincent191 · 8 February 2010

I won't comment on whether immigration levels are too high or just right. But I do support the view that NO-ONE should be able to "beat" the system. Sorry, but I am against migrants coming by boat illegally. If people want to migrate here they should go throu proper channels.

GumbyLearner · 9 February 2010

The best and brightest to be given priority
THE AGE by YUKO NARUSHIMA

http://www.theage.com.au/national/the-best-and-brightest-to-be-given-priority-20100208-nnao.html

A LONG-ANTICIPATED shake-up of skilled migration has split the education sector, with private colleges warning of catastrophe and public institutions praising the priority it gives to the smartest for permanent residency.

Immigration Minister Chris Evans yesterday announced an overhaul of Australia's independent skilled migration system to break the link between studying a trade in short supply and remaining in the country afterwards.

''This will make a permanent difference so that Australia is able to choose who migrates to this country, based on whether they're going to make a contribution,'' Senator Evans said.

''If they don't have the English-language skills, don't have the trade skills and can't get a job, then, really, they shouldn't be eligible for permanent residency.''

He said the ''perverse'' points system that currently rated a hospitality graduate from an Australian college above a Rhodes scholar from Oxford University would be reviewed.

Wow! Was that the way the system worked before? Oh well, hopefully
more talent will be attracted to work and live in Australia.

doctorj · 9 February 2010

Trembling Hand said:
Hope everyone will be happy paying $50 a plate @ a restaurant and $4 for their morning latte'.

I see you've been to Perth recently.

Tink · 9 February 2010

moXJO said:
Awww... I was working on a construction site with some Chinese working on visa, and I was very impressed with the way they worked. All very happy and polite. There standard of work was very good as well.

Finding good workers is hard. A friend went through 23 apprentices to find a decent one that wanted to learn.
...

My dad used to say the same thing.

When it came to hard work, people wouldnt last long.

Aussiejeff · 9 February 2010

Thought.

Since we are now moving to a "more skilled" international migrant intake, who will fill the "less skilled" positions in society over time ?

"Ordinary" Australians?

gooner · 9 February 2010

Aussiejeff said:
Thought.

Since we are now moving to a "more skilled" international migrant intake, who will fill the "less skilled" positions in society over time ?

"Ordinary" Australians?

Reality is the economic growth will put labour to those places and industries where it adds most value. Most recently that has meant mining. But this means that many businesses such as some manufacturing will no longer be competitive and close. So some of the labour will come from these businesses that have been shut down. Importing cheap labour also means more demand from those immigrants for services which requires more labour so it is a ponzi scheme. Given the amount of infrastructure required for new immigrants, there is plenty of research that concludes that Australia is economically worse off with more immigrants.

Yes, some people won't be able to get cheap cleaners and cost of Pizzas may rise. That's the price for not exploiting immigrants in below minimum wage jobs.

Dowdy · 9 February 2010

moXJO said:
Awww... I was working on a construction site with some Chinese working on visa, and I was very impressed with the way they worked. All very happy and polite. There standard of work was very good as well.
Finding good workers is hard. A friend went through 23 apprentices to find a decent one that wanted to learn.

Finding a good boss is even harder. When you actually get people who want to learn/ work you get bosses who try everything to shaft you - paying cash in hand for overtime, never buy any safety equipment, paying below the award wage, not paying super, make them work for you as a contractor so they dont have to pay super, overtime and sick leave, expect you to work overtime without even paying and then they call themselves fair.

That's one of the reasons i left the industry.

Woodsy58 · 9 February 2010

An an immigrant to this country , who is also married to an immigrant, I would suggest that the potential or ability for an individual to make a positive contribution to a country cannot be measured prior to arrival here. Neither of us arrived here with great skill sets, much like many Australians who are now regarded as icons (Lindsay Fox for example), but we would argue that we have made a more than fair contribution to Australia over the years.
Language skills upon arrival are irellevant, the desire to make a place for oneself and ones family in the world is the key.

Sidamo · 9 February 2010

Woodsy58 said:
Language skills upon arrival are irellevant, the desire to make a place for oneself and ones family in the world is the key.

Which is why boat people should all be allowed in. They *really* want a new start in life, far more so than your average Brit or Paddy.

disarray · 10 February 2010

Sidamo said:
Which is why boat people should all be allowed in. They *really* want a new start in life, far more so than your average Brit or Paddy.

what kind of bullsh1t generalisation comment is that?

gooner · 10 February 2010

Sidamo said:
Which is why boat people should all be allowed in. They *really* want a new start in life, far more so than your average Brit or Paddy.

So we should allow in boat people with no significant job skills, no significant English language skills and often a culture that is oppressive to women and completely at odds with Australia's prevailing culture.

Just because they really want to start a new life and are willing to pay criminal people smugglers to jump the queue. Suggest most Brits who come here are also keen to start a new life.

Tink · 10 February 2010

As long as people work, I couldnt care less who comes in this country.

donkeykong · 10 February 2010

gooner said:
Just because they really want to start a new life and are willing to pay criminal people smugglers to jump the queue. Suggest most Brits who come here are also keen to start a new life.

Do you also consider the jews who came here escaping nazi germany to be "queue jumpers", its far easier and cheaper to come here legally rather than going through dodgy Indonesian people smugglers.

People from all different circumstances have both pros and cons for Australia. Ie refugees may cost more initially than other migrants but are more likely to fill jobs in the unskilled labour market as well as jobs that most Australians don’t want to do. Middle class brits/kiwis/asians bring extra skills from overseas but are less likely to stay here indefinitely and the government has less control over where these people live which aggravates the problem of housing shortages in the major cities.

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