Sir John Howard

[cynic]

Which party knocked back a tax cut for business and is trying to impose more expense on them with a paid parental leave scheme ?

I'm not going to pretend to be anything less than prejudiced in my political views. When faced with a political system where the voting populace has become polarised to the point where there are only two likely outcomes, I have opted for the outcome that I consider to more closely match my values. That does not constitute automatic agreement with everything that my preferred political party does!

My expression of contempt for the ALP was included in this post in order to ensure that my expressed dissatisfaction with John Howard's behaviour wouldn't be misinterpreted as an expression of allegiance for the ALP.
Having read your various posts Rumpole, I can see that you are very intelligent and I therefore assume that you will have already recognised this.

I also am intelligent enough to recognise that your political philosophy is at significant variance to my own, and I am somewhat doubtful that anything productive will eventuate from us debating the finer points, however, I do thank you for taking the time to read my post.

Your posts are always welcome, Cynic, but couldn't you just refer to John Howard by his given name, rather than indulge in the petty pejorative insult referring to his stature?

In answer to your question, Julia, yes I am able to denigrate John Howard without using pejoratives if that makes yourself and GG happier. Given the overall derogatory tone of my post I am somewhat surprised that the pejorative was your key complaint, but I do value your guidance in this forum just the same.

For what it's worth, I always understood this pejorative to be a reference to John's media persona. To me his gestures combined with the way he spoke often seemed reminiscent of a schoolboy. In any case I accept that this pejorative could still be viewed in a derogatory context and given that some here have taken offense to its use, I shall desist from using it in future.

The Howard haters never refer to Hawke As "little Bobby" whereas he was in fact 5 cms shorter than Howard - 1.7m to 1.75m. The silver bodgie wore built-up heels.

You're quite right Calliope! I've never known anyone to call Hawke little Bobby. In fact there aren't enough expletives in the English language to adequately describe the depth of my contempt for him and what he tried to do to Australia.

C`mon guys isnt this a bit rich?You only have to read down these forums and see for yourself
all the ridicule and Nicknames of Prime ministers,ministers Present and past.

Thanks for the support Caveman. Until I read your post I was wondering if it was just me who felt that way. I've seen one of my most admired Australian politicians referred to as "destroyer" (rhymes with her surname) on ASF, however, I did not see any reason to take offence for similar reasons to those that you've so aptly pointed out. (When in Rome...).

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

gg,

If you want to start a fund to finance the erection of a 20 ft bronze statue of JWH overlooking the shores of Lake Burley Griffin, I would be delighted to make a contribution

Thank you Rumpole,

Do they have pidgeons in the ACT?

I couldn't think of anything more appropriate for JH than his efigy covered in pidgeon dung.

When the muppet ACT Government have fixed Capt.Emad's dishwasher, they intend to invest in the following to protect all politicians, living and dead.

gg

 

[Julia]

I'm not going to pretend to be anything less than prejudiced in my political views. When faced with a political system where the voting populace has become polarised to the point where there are only two likely outcomes, I have opted for the outcome that I consider to more closely match my values. That does not constitute automatic agreement with everything that my preferred political party does!

That's the position of many of us. This seems incomprehensible to the rigidly Left who appear able to admire every person and policy emanating from their party of choice.

In answer to your question, Julia, yes I am able to denigrate John Howard without using pejoratives if that makes yourself and GG happier. Given the overall derogatory tone of my post I am somewhat surprised that the pejorative was your key complaint, but I do value your guidance in this forum just the same.

I don't now remember all the detail of your post but do recall mentally agreeing with the points on which you were taking issue with John Howard. I just have a strong dislike of personal denigration in terms of commenting on someone's personal features. That doesn't mean I can expect others to share that view. I just hope they might. I thank you sincerely for understanding my objection.

Thanks for the support Caveman. Until I read your post I was wondering if it was just me who felt that way. I've seen one of my most admired Australian politicians referred to as "destroyer" (rhymes with her surname) on ASF, however, I did not see any reason to take offence for similar reasons to those that you've so aptly pointed out. (When in Rome...).

I'm trying to think of which politician you're referring to here and failing. Could you put me out of my misery?

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

My contacts in King Edward VII Hospital tell me that many more a royal and earl than Phil the Greek have been struck by ailments following their airing in near freezing temperatures on the Thames upon Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II Diamond Jubilee.

The Cinque Ports, is still in play for John Winston Howard.

It will be rather like a collective lemon sucking exercise for the ALP when it eventuates.

He will be the first Australian since Sir Robert Menzies to hold that position.

Well done Sir John.

gg

 

[cynic]

I'm trying to think of which politician you're referring to here and failing. Could you put me out of my misery?

Natasha Stott Despoja.

One of the very few Australian politicians that regularly displayed leadership qualities exceeding my highest expectations.

Irrespective of any of my prior reservations, had either of the major parties invited her on board and appointed her as leader, it would have been enough to swing my vote. I believe that Australia missed a great opportunity by failing to recognise just how much she had to offer.

When I see the types of people appointed to the leadership of our major parties, I often question the wisdom of their choices and ask myself the questions : "Can't they find someone better than that?" and "Is this truly the best leadership/representation that Australia has to offer?"

Of course, Her Majesty may bestow honours on whomsoever she chooses. It's her prerogative, but I do consider it to be a tragedy that other exceptionally talented Australians have been overlooked.