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This is one of the more ludicrous things I've heard religion do.

It's so rediculous, you just have to laugh. Except this person is actually going to a real jail, for allowing a Teddy to be named after the Schitzophrenic Mohammad.

 
howdy kennas -
lol - I saw that - how ridiculous.

Got a feeling after this she ain't gonna complain about the deportation

No wonder comedians in these countries go broke.
Plenty of material, just none of the locals can see the funny side.
 

Thanks for that, Kitehigh. I appreciate your input. What would happen, e.g. to a woman who never married (does that happen?) whose father died and who had no brothers? To whom would she have to defer?

Does your wife have to observe the covering up rules which apply to the Muslim women?
 
This is one of the more ludicrous things I've heard religion do.


It's so rediculous, you just have to laugh. Except this person is actually going to a real jail, for allowing a Teddy to be named after the Schitzophrenic Mohammad.


Yes it utter madness, I cant understand for the life of me why Westerners go vist such countries let alone choose to work in them.

If you starve these places of Western workers they will soon come begging and changing laws im sure ..
 
What would happen, e.g. to a woman who never married (does that happen?) whose father died and who had no brothers? To whom would she have to defer?
julia, there was a doco on Afghanistan recently - the same would apply of course for Iraq ......

A widow whose husband was killed by allied bombing (just going about his business) with several daughters - trying to etch out a living - spends all days crouched in the snow begging to passers-by for money for food

face completely covered of course, (burqa), - they asked her to lift her face mask in the privacy of her own home, and she reluctantly agreed - revealing a face that life and society (and war) had treated very cruelly -

She spends all day squatting at a corner in the snow because she doesn't have the strength to stand ...

you got the impression she wouldn't last another winter.

 
AHHH wowo - at last !! - some sense !!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/11/27/2102505.htm


I particularly like the fqact that her husband was always on her side and defending her - that she was only trying to retrieve a photo from the "unrelated male"
 

Firstly to answer your first question. The only reason normally that a woman wouldn't marry in Saudi, is if she had been raped and was now deemed to be spoiled. Or suffered from some other handicap that made her non marriage material. If she had no immediate male relatives because of death or some other reason, than she would generally be taken in by the extended family. Arabs generally have quite large families and family bonds are one of their strongest traits.

In response to your second question, my wife never travelled with me to Saudi as I was only there on a short assignment. But if she did, than she would have been required to cover up. Depends on where you go in Saudi determines how strict the dress code for foreigners is. For example in Jeddah I saw foreign woman getting around with no head scarf, but wearing the black robe to cover their bodies. Whereas in Riyadh which is the capital of Saudi they have a very strick dress code and enforce it. So there you see no woman getting around without full covering.
Living in Dubai foreign woman are under no obligation to cover up, but my wife did start dressing more conservative after awhile as she wanted to avoid the stares and harassment from the males of all different races. Dubai also has alot of prostitution and with alot of them coming from russia this provided other problems for my wife. Because she has blonde hair and is quite attractive she would attract even more attention from males. Thats the problem when you have some poorly educated guys thinking all western woman must be prostitutes.
On an interesting side note, I have never had a problem dealing with the local woman who work (in dubai local woman are allowed to work and drive cars) for the different govt organizations such as the telco and utilites companies, but my wife on the other hand copped no amount of grief from them. I put it down to that they resent western woman to a certain extent, because they see local males hooking up with them and also taking them as brides, whereas a local woman is not allowed to marry a foreigner. I did read that local woman were complaining about this to the rulers, and wanted the marriage restrictions lifted so that they could marry foreign muslim males. Their argument was that there was not enough available local males to go round so they should be allowed to marry an outsider.
 
Another horrible story along the same lines.

It really lowers my opinion of people/country leaders who condone this sort of pracrtice on the basis of tradition and or culture.

Culture and tradition doesn't make it right... just sustained.

As for the women and fathers in particular who actually support such practice, I'd say there's a good chance they suffer from 'Stockholm Syndrome'.

Will the UN (or someone) ever be in a position to impose nations to abide by some basic human rights?


http://www.news.com.au/world/yemeni...fter-intercourse/story-e6frfkyi-1225851585843
 

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Sorry of this is a bit off topic, but it is relevant to Islamic culture and its ability to integrate with western society.

The best that can be said about this guy is that he is at least honest about his intentions and his anathema for western society, even though he lives in the UK.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne7z-_RXWeA
 
I am not surprised that arabic countries still remain third world countries with these type of laws and customs...
 
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