Sexual harrassment

[sptrawler]

Which is my point.

80% of folks are instructed on what they should think, 20% actually think.

That's true, today I was reading that the stolen generation are to be compensated, well I actually said Rudd should have done that as part of the GFC rescue package, after he appologised, if we want to trawl back through posts. I actually said if the Govt had given $10billion to the indigenous, as a compensation payment, it would have been recirculated into the economy and helped the needy.
But getting to today, another thing that was said was we need to reduce the amount of indigenous who are put in jail, well a lot are put in jail for car theft, couldnt we just give them a car.

 

[IFocus]

Points of order:

1) Braggadocio is no evidence of the actual behaviour. I may brag about having a menage a trois with Elle and Naomi, but that is unlikely to be true.

2) if the recipient of such p**** grabbing is consensual, it is not actually harassment now is it?

Point of order dismissed, Geesus Trump was always a dog front and centre don't get why you defend him.

Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations​

Donald Trump, the former president of the United States, has been accused of rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment, including non-consensual kissing or groping, by at least 25 women since the 1970s

Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[wayneL]

Oh yes, the repeating of unsubstantiated claims makes it true.

Sieg Heil, Herr Goebbels.

 

[IFocus]

Oh yes, the repeating of unsubstantiated claims makes it true.

Sieg Heil, Herr Goebbels.

Not at all, then there are the pr0n stars...

Still don't get why you defend Trump?

As for the Nazi insinuation I do agree as State and Federal Republicans are presently working their way towards undermining the democratic process in the US, lines been crossed like never before, but you keep cheering?

 

[basilio]

I think we need a photo of them in bikini bottoms so we can make a proper judgement.

How about a side by side comparison with the mens beach volley ball uniform. ?

Pic Shows Difference Between Men's, Women's Beach Handball Uniforms?

Norway's women's beach handball team was fined in July 2021 for protesting against the sport's "bikini bottoms" requirement.

www.snopes.com

 

[sptrawler]

How about a side by side comparison with the mens beach volley ball uniform. ?

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Pic Shows Difference Between Men's, Women's Beach Handball Uniforms?

Norway's women's beach handball team was fined in July 2021 for protesting against the sport's "bikini bottoms" requirement.

www.snopes.com

Apparently the men are up in arms, that the guys have to wear such draconian workwear, when close fitting streamlined budgie smugglers would obviously be an advantage in beach volley ball.
Why is it that the women get a scientific streamlined advantage in their clothing, it wasn't allowed in the swimming and also in the cycling, why should the men have to wear such obviously cumbersome non streamlined attire.?

 

[sptrawler]

Bob Dylan hits the headlines at 80 years old.

Bob Dylan denies alleged sexual abuse of 12-year-old child in 1960s

An unnamed woman sues folk singer-songwriter Bob Dylan, alleging he sexually abused her after giving her drugs and alcohol in 1965 when she was 12 years old.

www.abc.net.au

From the article:
An unnamed woman has sued folk singer-songwriter Bob Dylan, alleging he sexually abused her after giving her drugs and alcohol in 1965 when she was 12 years old.

A spokesman for Dylan, now 80, said the allegations were false.
"The 56-year-old claim is untrue and will be vigorously defended," the spokesman said

 

[sptrawler]

Looks like the FIFO guys aren't as squeaky clean as as they think they are, maybe @Humid can get them into rehab. ?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08...over-inappropriate-sexual-behaviour/100395186

 

[basilio]

Promising new medical advances in dealing with widespread sexual harrassment and sexism.

 

[SirRumpole]

I'd like to see a bit more publicity for all the good blokes out there (I'm sure there are some), instead of the constant feminist attacks on men in general.

Sure some of us are @ssholes and they should be put away or otherwise dealt with but lets give some credit when blokes actually do the right thing , and hold them up as role models to others.

 

[basilio]

I'd like to see a bit more publicity for all the good blokes out there (I'm sure there are some), instead of the constant feminist attacks on men in general.

Sure some of us are @ssholes and they should be put away or otherwise dealt with but lets give some credit when blokes actually do the right thing , and hold them up as role models to others.

It is tough, very tough to feel labelled unfairly. If you watched that piece of satire to the end you will have seen Sammy J being double jabbed and having a loud scream because his female lab partner decided he needed to be vaxxed. "But I'm one of the good guys !" he yells. So take it as you wish but this is a double edged sword.

And by no means would I hold up women as the font of all virtue.

 

[SirRumpole]

It is tough, very tough to feel labelled unfairly. If you watched that piece of satire to the end you will have seen Sammy J being double jabbed and having a loud scream because his female lab partner decided he needed to be vaxxed. "But I'm one of the good guys !" he yells. So take it as you wish but this is a double edged sword.

And by no means would I hold up women as the font of all virtue.

Satire it may be bas, just wait a year or so.

 

[sptrawler]

I'd like to see a bit more publicity for all the good blokes out there (I'm sure there are some), instead of the constant feminist attacks on men in general.

Sure some of us are @ssholes and they should be put away or otherwise dealt with but lets give some credit when blokes actually do the right thing , and hold them up as role models to others.

Just another way of undermining Australian's optimism, best way to bring about change, is promote and pedal discontent.

 

[wayneL]

I'd like to see a bit more publicity for all the good blokes out there (I'm sure there are some), instead of the constant feminist attacks on men in general.

Sure some of us are @ssholes and they should be put away or otherwise dealt with but lets give some credit when blokes actually do the right thing , and hold them up as role models to others.

Granted I don't live anywhere near where the wokists live, but in my corner of the sandpile, 99% of woman like masculine blokes. That excludes @ssholes, but the girls are smart enough to differentiate.

It happens, but just not in the mainstream narrative. Check out the likes of Gemma Tognini and Caro Di Russo, both of whom write on this topic occasionally.

 

[SirRumpole]

but the girls are smart enough to differentiate.

I'm not sure some are.

Why do we see so many assaulted or murdered by their current or former partners ?

 

[macca]

I'm not sure some are.

Why do we see so many assaulted or murdered by their current or former partners ?

My wife has a friend like that, she is a "fixer."

She seems to end up with blokes with problems and she is going to save them, so far it always ends up with her needing fixing by a Doctor.

"Treat them mean and keep them keen" does work on a lot of women so a lot of blokes have very little respect for women as "people"

They see them as a possession and don't give stuff whether they go or stay.

Then you get blokes who own the woman and even if the man may remarry the ex wife is not allowed to.

We had a neighbour like that, the ex husband used to stalk her even though he had remarried

 

[wayneL]

I read

I'm not sure some are.

Why do we see so many assaulted or murdered by their current or former partners ?

I read an interesting study on that... I probably couldn't do it justice here, but all about very early family life and what is subconsciously thought to be normal.

Sad stuff.

 

[SirRumpole]

She seems to end up with blokes with problems and she is going to save them, so far it always ends up with her needing fixing by a Doctor.

Yes, that's the sad thing that some women don't seem to realise. Once some men establish a power relationship over a woman, nothing will change them.

Women need to be aware of dangerous relationships and walk away while they still can.

 

[sptrawler]

This is another sad fact, it is amazing how many totally immoral and despicable people, hide behind a facade of being a caring and concerned individual.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/...8-p590wb.html?js-chunk-not-found-refresh=true
From the article:
A man who repeatedly raped his wife and whose years of brutal, cruel and degrading abuse left a judge struggling to find the words to describe his conduct has been jailed for 15 years.

Jon Seccull, a former White Ribbon ambassador and charity fundraiser and the son of a retired policeman, must spend 10½ years in prison before he is eligible for parole for sexual violence against his wife between 2011 and 2015.
County Court judge Frank Gucciardo said on Monday that it was difficult to comprehend the sadistic nature of Seccull’s violence against his then wife, Michelle Skewes, and the humiliating and demeaning acts that inflicted “indignity of the highest order”.
“The offending leaves the court bereft of adequate words to describe its moral depravity,” Judge Gucciardo said as Seccull watched the online hearing from prison.

“Even after many years of criminal law, such abhorrent conduct is breathtaking.”
Before Seccull’s crimes became public he was renowned for his charity work in Ballarat in raising awareness for organ donation after one of the couple’s four children died when hit by a train. The couple separated in 2016, the same year Seccull was charged.

During their marriage, Seccull coerced Ms Skewes into sexual interactions with other men, and meted out violence as “punishment” when he didn’t get what he wanted, all with vile insults. The court heard he at times abused her until she vomited and he had threatened to release a video of her with another man.

 

[basilio]

This is another sad fact, it is amazing how many totally immoral and despicable people, hide behind a facade of being a caring and concerned individual.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/...8-p590wb.html?js-chunk-not-found-refresh=true
From the article:
A man who repeatedly raped his wife and whose years of brutal, cruel and degrading abuse left a judge struggling to find the words to describe his conduct has been jailed for 15 years.

Jon Seccull, a former White Ribbon ambassador and charity fundraiser and the son of a retired policeman, must spend 10½ years in prison before he is eligible for parole for sexual violence against his wife between 2011 and 2015.
County Court judge Frank Gucciardo said on Monday that it was difficult to comprehend the sadistic nature of Seccull’s violence against his then wife, Michelle Skewes, and the humiliating and demeaning acts that inflicted “indignity of the highest order”.
“The offending leaves the court bereft of adequate words to describe its moral depravity,” Judge Gucciardo said as Seccull watched the online hearing from prison.

“Even after many years of criminal law, such abhorrent conduct is breathtaking.”
Before Seccull’s crimes became public he was renowned for his charity work in Ballarat in raising awareness for organ donation after one of the couple’s four children died when hit by a train. The couple separated in 2016, the same year Seccull was charged.

During their marriage, Seccull coerced Ms Skewes into sexual interactions with other men, and meted out violence as “punishment” when he didn’t get what he wanted, all with vile insults. The court heard he at times abused her until she vomited and he had threatened to release a video of her with another man.

That was a truly horrifying story. Left the Judge almost without words.

One point to make clearly that was in one of the articles I read about the case. It was the courage of the wife to make the charge and then allow her name and his name to be publicised. She made it clear that while her case was abhorrent she also wanted to encourage any similar victims to step forward and not be shamed into silence. I hope she doesn't cope the sort of disrespect and disbelief that is sometimes levelled in this situation.