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nizar said:
And remind me again how you know this?
THis claim cannot be substantiated and as such should not be made.
I dont want to get into an argument about who makes the most money. That wasnt the point of my post. I was just sharing my experience.

But please, if there are methods that substantially outperform mine, feel free to PM me, in fact please do, im more than happy to learn methods that will earn me substantially more.

Not interested in an argument either Niz. I like INL's fundy's but am only interested in trading it on price action, that could basically some up all the stocks I trade and retrade.

I certainly am not a proponent of 'Blue Sky' like you!, without even a reason why the bugger got to blue sky in the first place and then jumping on the bandwagon :D

But as Mum always said 'eat a bit of everything in moderation' and thats probably relevant to trading their are lots of methods, not just one right one as you seem to spout.

You'd do well at a house auction (fiddled by realtors), lots of bidding action with massive price increase, "I gotta get on the boat", pity youre the only real bidder thats purchasing an overpriced fibro shack.

Hope you keep on doing well in the market Niz, I really do!, but don't right off people because they don't trade your way.

And finally I have no idea what youre returns are and that was not the point of my post.
 
hmmm. I'm sorta abit of both when it comes to trading. Around 50% of portfolio is in medium term stocks eg. AGM & INL etc and the other 50% is purely TA and chasing stocks eg MLS etc.

It's all about risk return for me. I'm expecting these stock to go up in the next couple of months. (I'm not going to put a price on it). If you had a huge margin loan, these are the kinda stock you want to go on. Good return, relatively low risk.

I do believe that TA does bring better returns. (imo) But with higher risk. In the end, you have to find that balance. There are some stock you hold for months and there are some stocks you hold for hours. Which way is better? None. Cause your comparing apples & oranges. Different goals with different risk criteria.

We are in a 4 year bull market right now. Stocks are breaking out everywhere! Returns are great. But there will be a time when protecting your capital is key.

In the end, it comes down to portfolio management. Both ways are right and more importantly, both ways make money...... :)
 
Looking good now. Support building for the stock. Will need to first break the 27c mark & then the 30c mark. Will break out if it passes 30c.
 
share price looking solid, hope the flurry of smaller investors jumping ship doesn't materialise - predictable and lame
 
kennas said:
What are you talking about Imajica?

:confused:

kennas,

Imajica is referring to the constant profit taking that this stock is experiencing. Just as the share price starts to climb large share dumps occur bringing the price back down. There has been talk of manipulation over at HC but I still can't get my head around that one.

MB
 
Intec 06 Dec, 2006
Coming of Age!
Buy up to 31 cents

Intec has developed an innovative chloride-bromide leach process which can extract metals such as zinc, lead and copper from a variety of products that traditionally cannot be process by normal base metal smelting and refining. It has progressively developed this technology over many years but without being able to fully commercialise the process.

“Intec is now earning a cash flow out of its Polymetals joint venture which is retreating the zinc rich Hellyer tailings. Meanwhile, an increasing supply of EAF dusts containing secondary zinc is providing an impetus to accelerate development of a 10ktpa zinc Intec process plant, also to be based at the Hellyer mine site.”

In January 2004 the company purchased the Hellyer mine and treatment plant, located in northwest Tasmania. This was formerly operated by Aberfoyle/Western Metals and comprises a mine with exhausted underground reserves, a zinc/lead concentrator on care and maintenance, buildings and site infrastructure, and a 55 hectare tailings dam containing more than significant zinc, lead, silver, copper and gold grades which reflect tailings losses in the initial processing. The mine site is outlined on the following plan:
However, there have been two key factors which have changed the outlook for the company.

These are:
• In a 50:50 joint venture, Polymetals has commenced retreating the Hellyer tailings project though the existing processing plant (with some modifications). This is providing Intec with its first ever cash flow and transforms the company to become self funding.
• In the restructuring of Pasminco/Zinifex, the Cockle Creek zinc smelter near Newcastle was closed. This was an Imperial Smelting Furnace which used to process waste materials including Electric Arc Furnace dusts (EAF) which have a 27% zinc content from the processing of galvanised steel. These EAF dusts are an environmental nightmare and require treatment. Given the closure of Cockle Creek, Intec is well positioned to process these EAF dusts with its Intec leach process.

While the Hellyer tailings re-treatment will provide a handy cash flow and has justified the recent share price increases, the main game is the development of the Intec processing plant on the Hellyer mine site capable of producing 10ktpa of zinc (either as metal or as zinc oxide). This plant is expected to cost in the $30 – $50m range and construction is expected over an 18 month period with first production late 2008. It is also expected to be funded from cash flow and some debt.

This plant will process the EAF dusts described earlier, as well as other zinc materials including the recently acquired zinc rich slag from old lead smelting operations near Zeehan, also in Tasmania. This is estimated to contain 460,000t @ 13.6% Zn for 62,000t zinc metal, as well as lead and silver credits.

However, if the company can establish an adequate supply of zinc (Australia’s total production of EAF dusts is 25 – 30ktpa or 8,000tpa of zinc metal), it will seek to increase the capacity of its plant to 40ktpa. The attraction of EAF dusts is that the zinc essentially comes ‘for free’ as steel mills often pay for someone to take the material away. Both OneSteel and Smorgons have Electric Arc Furnaces in Australia while the company is also considering opportunities to import EAF dusts given total global production is around 6 million tonnes pa.

Hellyer Tailings Retreatment
Late last week, Intec announced that commercial zinc production had commenced at Hellyer as part of the re-processing of tailings under the Polymetals/Intec 50:50 joint venture. It reports that the tailings dredge, grinding mill and flotation circuits are now operating at 80% of the capacity planned in the 65,000 tonnes per annum ‘base-case’ projections, and this output is improving daily.

The dredge is collecting 130 tonnes per hour of tailings which translates to 1.5Mt pa of tailings grading 2.2% Zn from an 11Mt resource. This slurry is then transported to shore tanks for temporary storage, prior to being pumped over 2.5 km to the Hellyer Mill. The process involves regrinding the tailings slurry to 20 microns before flotation.

The bulk concentrate grades 41% zinc, 10% lead and 200g/t silver, and the joint venture has two offtake agreements with Chinese smelters totalling over two thirds of the 65,000 tonnes per annum bulk zinc concentrate ‘base case’ production. The joint venture also reports that strong demand has been received for the remaining 20,000 tonnes per annum of expected non-committed ‘base-case’ production.

The company reports that at current metal prices, US$/A$ exchange rate, and ‘base case’ throughput, the total project is forecast to generate annual revenue of A$128m, and an EBITDA of $70.5m with Intec’s share at $35m. Based on our enterprise value calculation below, this leaves Intec on a 5 times cash flow multiple million which we believe represents ‘fair value’. However, the joint venture is now looking at the opportunity for expanding production to 2Mtpa which could theoretically increase cash flow by 33% at modest additional capex.

1.5Mtpa Base Case Returns for Intec’s Share
Source: Company
Intec Process

Intec likes to claim that it is the world’s leader in chloride hydrometallurgy. The Intec Process operates in the chloride medium to recover base and precious metals from ores, concentrates and residues including EAF dusts and other zinc-bearing residues. This recovery includes substantial environmental and economic benefits; for example no roasting of material and associated emissions while the company argues that every tonne of zinc that is recycled saves at least ten tonnes of fresh ore that needs to be mined. For detailed review of the leach process, Members are referred to the company’s website at intec.com.au.

In 2005 the company constructed a Demonstration Plant in Burnie, Tasmania to test Intec Zinc Process at higher throughputs than its earlier smaller scale demonstration plants. The demonstration plant program was successfully completed in August, 2006 after nearly 12 months of continuous operations and has achieved 9 weeks of ‘steady state’ operation.

This has led the company to embark on the Intec Hellyer Metals Demonstration Plant which would operate at a production rate of 10ktpa of zinc ‘units’ (saleable units as either metal or zinc oxide). While capex and operating costs are continually being refined, as mentioned, we expect that capex to be in the $30 – 50m range and operating costs to be low to mid quartile.

Stock Resource Recommendation
While the Intec share price has moved up in recent weeks, we have been keen to ensure that the project has been ‘derisked’ before considering investing in Intec. Discussions with management indicate that Polymetals are good operators and that the joint venture will generate strong cash flows for both companies. With this cash flow justifying the current share price, we are comfortable at recommending investment in Intec for the medium term development of its Intec process on a commercial scale. We believe that with mounting EAF dusts around the world, the company will quickly expand a 10ktpa plant to 40ktpa. Nevetheless, a 10ktpa plant is likely to generate revenues in the order of A$40m pa on a US$1.50/lb zinc price and A$/US$ = 0.75 exchange rate.

Hence, Stock Resource recommends Intec as a Buy up to 31 cents for all Members.

Capital Structure & Funding
At a 31 cents share price, we estimate that Intec’s enterprise value is $183m. This includes a value of $3.7m for its 18.5% interest in Bass Metals (ASX code: BSM).

Market Valuation Issued Shares (m) Share Price (cents) Market Cap (A$m)
Fully paid shares 555.5 $0.31 $172.2
Options 92.8 $0.31 $28.8
Cash from options $11.1
Diluted Market Cap $189.8
Listed investments $3.7
Cash $2.8
Enterprise value $183.4
The company has an undrawn working capital facility of $2.5m.
 
Check out the ann BSM just made

I quote
"An MOU detailing terms for an ore sales contract to the operators of the Hellyer concentrator is close to being finalised"

guess who the operators are :rolleyes:
 
Gotta be quick 'round here. I was just about to post KK when I saw yours.

Anyway.......some good news on the horizon. :)

MB
 
KIWIKARLOS said:
Check out the ann BSM just made

I quote
"An MOU detailing terms for an ore sales contract to the operators of the Hellyer concentrator is close to being finalised"

guess who the operators are :rolleyes:
Yeah, but I think the market has factored this in. These companys have a very close relationship. The interesting thing will be the 2 parties who have been negotiating with INL over firther ore to be processed at Hellyer. I'm guessing one might be Zinifex. Maybe. They do all their smelting in Hobart near the Rosebery Mine, so maybe not...Maybe ZFX will buy BSM and INL will be taken by ZFXs merger partner - Umicore. Just thinking out loud. :)
 
come INL u can do it, i know u can, ive seen u do it b4, u know what your trouble is?, u think uve got a heart this big, but really its THIS BIG!!!

INL INL INL ..... gimme an I! .... oh come on, am i the only one? an i, I I I!!

ah bugger it every man and his dog is chasin speccies, its time the mining bubble burst and only serious people like me and INL were left standing.
 
toc_bat said:
come INL u can do it, i know u can, ive seen u do it b4, u know what your trouble is?, u think uve got a heart this big, but really its THIS BIG!!!

INL INL INL ..... gimme an I! .... oh come on, am i the only one? an i, I I I!!

ah bugger it every man and his dog is chasin speccies, its time the mining bubble burst and only serious people like me and INL were left standing.

Looks like you need a holiday THIS BIG ;)
 
has been condolidating at these levels for a few days now - will push higher with the announcement of the first payment recieived for their initial shipment - this will remind the market that they are a producer now! :)
 
imajica said:
has been condolidating at these levels for a few days now - will push higher with the announcement of the first payment recieived for their initial shipment - this will remind the market that they are a producer now! :)

any idea when the next announcement will be?
looks like the SP range is around 24.5c - 26.5c ... have to break through resistance 27c before it goes wild again...
 
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