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Schapelle Corby - Innocent or Guilty?

Considering the latest news, do you believe Schapelle Corby is innocent?

  • No, not any more

    Votes: 49 13.0%
  • No, never have

    Votes: 184 48.7%
  • Yes, always have and still do

    Votes: 80 21.2%
  • I don't care. Show me the stocks!

    Votes: 65 17.2%

  • Total voters
    378
AgentM

Seems I still have to clarify my situation to some....

Extracts from Families Behind Bars..... published May 2008

In December 2000, in defiance of international law, my husband Kerry, then Managing Director of a British security company based in Laos, was abducted from his office by secret police. He was taken to an undisclosed location where interrogators tried, unsuccessfully, to make him sign a false
statement to support the illegal nationalisation of his client’s US$2 billion sapphire-mining company. When all attempts failed, I was detained. The Laos police thought this would coerce my husband into signing. Little did they know Kerry had spent the last 20 years in the Australian Special Forces, the elite Special Air Service Regiment (SAS). He had taken the job in Laos as a civilian, but was still a full-time serving member of the Australian Defence Force (ADF), working on extended leave as approved by the Army Chief of Staff.

End of extract.

{** Note to forum members.... Kerry was thinking of getting out of the army hence why he opted to test the waters before he got out. Loads of SAS were doing this in the early 1990's. He wasn't there spying...lol.}

The funniest thing is that the secret police who abducted my husband were from the Ministry of Interior.... the Jardine Securicor Company we worked for were the joint venture partners of the Ministry of Interior. The police colonel thought that being the case, Kerry would agree to roll over on one of his clients... forget liability etc.... stupid!

When Kerry wouldn't sign the false statement, they kidnapped him and took him to a place where they tried to beat him into submission. When that didn't work, they detained me and tried to use that against him. I was with the Australian Embassy at the time, they were trying to evacuate me and our two children across the border. Lao law states they can detain someone without charge for 1 year.

Kerry and I spent the next 10 months in a prison. We endured all manner of torture and mock executions because the situation got out of control. Once the Aust govt started pressuring laos, it all hit the media and the people who kidnapped us, panicked. they made their govt lose face and being communists, well.... you can imagine how that went down. lol. Our Governmetn told us to sit tight... they said that it was inevitable that we would be found guilty of something because that was the only way for the laotians to save face and let us go... but they said for us to not worry.

So the question the laotians faced was how the heck do we get these two aussies back home without looking stupid?

Long story short but nothing untoward on the part of the aust govt or lao govt really... just the idiots in between and they have all since dissapeared.

Extract.....

Thankfully the president at the time, Khamtay Siphandone, agreed on a solution which enabled us to come home. We were granted a Presidential Pardon. It was unprecedented. Not long after that, those who had orchestrated our detainment had been expelled from public office or were demoted from their once-prominent positions. They had underestimated our ability to endure their torture and ill-treatment. They had underestimated our strength and integrity to withstand false and very public accusations. They had underestimated our government too, which fully supported our innocence throughout the entire ordeal and stopped at nothing to bring us home.

We returned to our three children on 9 November 2001 and to a 200-strong media contingent wanting to understand why we hadn’t just given in and signed the false statements, so that we could come home. Nothing could ever be as simple as that, especially for two determined people, like my husband and I, who are not, were not and never will be prepared to compromise our integrity for any reason.

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"Standing Ground" will be released in March 2009. It details this incredible journey.

No I am not subject to any proceeds of a crime act because we were aquitted.

The presidential pardon in communist states is akin to an aquittal where there is no judicial process ie: appeal to overturn a decision.

Hope this clarifies the situation.
 
thanks for the run down kay..

i did some quick research but couldnt find much on reports of you being found guilty of anything. thought i would ask you instead..

your ordeal is worthy of publishing. and i hope your able to see your way through the psychological aspects of the trauma.

again i appreciate your views and i'll look out for your book in the near future.

best of luck kay..

maybe you should look at investing while your in the forum.. its a very interesting site and imho the majority of people here are quite genuine..
 
thanks AgentM... i'm actually going to go and have a look around the forum... considering I do have an investment portfolio and my shares are looking quite dismal.
 
i'm actually going to go and have a look around the forum... considering I do have an investment portfolio and my shares are looking quite dismal.

Good idea. You are starting to repeat yourself like Zack. 12 posts in two days here and still counting!
 
Good idea. You are starting to repeat yourself like Zack. 12 posts in two days here and still counting!
Calliope, many of your posts are interesting and insightful.
This is not one of them.
 

So that's what this is all about Kay, your book promotion!!

Only joking on that score Kay, I believe you have contributed to this topic in a very balanced and unbiased way and like many others have indicated you are welcome here.

In regards to your drama overseas and the topic of your book It is obvious many people have little knowledge of the corruption that exists in some governments overseas.

Just one question. Are you going to release a 'Standing Ground' for dummies version so Zack, Schu and the rest of his crew will possibly understand it?
 
New to this debate scene. But a simple question looking for serious answer. Is it true that the value of the marijuana that Schapelle was allegedly trafficking in Indonesia was worth one fourth of what she could have got from it had she stayed home and sold it? A truthful answer will lead me to my next question.
 

sorry but according to the "mullers and packers union"of australia it is valued at from 5- 10 times its worth in indo compared to oz hence the attractiveness of ppl smuggling it to bali .

this info can be verified at any bali bar OR from a link provided further back in this thread
 
A final one on the subject of justice. I ask the following question and I would like your honest unbiased answers regardless as to whether it's Schapelle Corby, me or you or Joe Blow down the street.

"You are charged with a crime but you refuse to accept the charges and you plead innocent...but you are refused access to the evidence to test to prove your point! You are denied the right to have the evidence examined to dispute the prosecutions claims! Fair or Unfair?"

Stocks!! I have quite a few...but like most, the bulk of them are down, but it doesn't matter to me because I've been buying now for yonks for the long term and mostly for the franked dividends they pay.
As for the market at the moment I look at it as a buying opportunity, but maybe another six to nine months down the track could be better still...there's more fertiliser to hit the fan yet!
But one stock in particular I have been looking at buying right now is Caltex [CTX]...trading around $7-00 p/s...current yield nearly 10% @ .69c ff, eps is $2-34 and with a p/e of 3.1! What do you think of this one?
And go buy gold...it will hit $2000 an ounce within two years I think!
 

This same old story comes up each week, yes imported drugs do sell for up to ten times more than local grass will, the imported has more THC in it. You will all so find that xpats who live in Bali will only buy drugs from other xpats, as it is so easy to be set up by the local police.
How do I know, the company that I used to work for still have a staff house in Bali.
 
Varekai, a few post ago you asked me about a stolen motor bike in my drive, and would I be guilty, well look at it this way, the police watch my brother and my self drag a garden bag up my drive way, mister plod said to me is that your garden bag, I say yes it is mine, they open it up and find the bike inside. Yes I am guilty of having a stolen m/bike.
 

No, you admitted owning only the bag, but you didn't know what was inside...plod finds the stolen bike inside which you deny you stole or had any knowledge of!
It's in your possession... but now it's up to the police to prove you stole it!
 
No, you admitted owning only the bag, but you didn't know what was inside...plod finds the stolen bike inside which you deny you stole or had any knowledge of!
It's in your possession... but now it's up to the police to prove you stole it!

No mate, they can charge me with being in possession of stolen property.
 
What on earth does this have to do with the Corby thread???
And your last sentence would seem to be pure ramping, even on the appropriate thread.
 
No, you admitted owning only the bag, but you didn't know what was inside...plod finds the stolen bike inside which you deny you stole or had any knowledge of!
It's in your possession... but now it's up to the police to prove you stole it!

It is a waste of time Verakai. They are blinded by hatred and are clearly sick. Look at the posting history of this bunch for example:

Originally Posted by pilots
You lame ducks can cry all you like, I would suggest that you stock up on tears, you will need them, as you still have 16 YEARS TO GO.


Originally Posted by knocker:
How sad she is locked in a cage lol maybe she is vying for an acting career. Or maybe she had a rough night with the wardens.


Originally Posted by Calliope
Hopefully Corby won't be able to corrupt the gene pool while she is incarcerated. So that's a plus.

Then we have a guy hiding behind the name Garpal Gumnut, telling us that his mates in Indonesia are going to hurt her further if I don't stop posting, and issuing implied threats against me.

Just look at the posting history of all those and the others. Look at it. The venim and spite and pleasure at trying to hurt an innocent woman already suffering horribly jumps off the page at you.


When the real issues and facts are presented they throw back low level sound bytes which they have been fed by the media over the years. Sound bites and smears which in fact have all been totally discredited by research and fact.


I have seldom encountered such vile creatures in all my years. Incredibly, they haven't a clue what they look like to decent people.
 

Zacko, welcome back, when will you fix up that sorry video, you know the one with the seven facts, that six of your facts are W, R, O, R ,N, G, WRONG.

Zacko, come on give us ONE FACT that is TRUE.
 

Zacko, lets talk about your facts one by one, fact three, the price of grass in Bali, how do you get your info that it is cheaper in Bali than in Australia,??.
 
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