Zack, I'll say something , - the Lindy Chambelain episode had to be the lowest point that the Aussie media has ever experienced, or will ever experienceZack said:Sorry: but for me, anyone who can't grasp these issues, and see through the media, needs to be looking at themselves.
Don't agree Rob. If you actually leave Bangkok or Phuket you can walk through fields with real Thai's pick pot and smoke opium which is a normal way of life for them. Their government representitives are the most corrupt people on earth. Bottom line is she doesn't deserve 20 years, put yourself in her position, think about not seeing your family, living in discusting conditions, your life being put on pause, and being treated like scum for 20 years, for a bag of pot? You can get a hooker to buy some pot off nearly any police officer over there it's a joke. How would you feel if it was your kid?
julia said:You can't compare nicotine with heroin. To do so just demonstrates your ignorance of both substances
julia said:I did not call you ignorant.
I find a lot of people on here to be ignorant and sick. Look at some of those posts above.
Schapelle Corby's legal and human rights were abused systematically. This is a matter of record. Anyone who doesn't know some of the abuses by now must have been living in a box: Refusal to test the drugs for country of origin? A judge who admitted he had never acquitted anyone in 500 drug cases? I could go on and on and on.
Yet some people her think that this is ok: forget it eh? Green light for all regimes like that to repeat for Oz citizens generally?
Then her suffering. 20 YEARS. That is barbaric. Even if she had had a trail, that is not a sentence, it is a POLITICAL statement. Schapelle Corby is suffering for that... for something she never had control of.
But that is ok, eh? Just leave her to rot: human compassion is for losers?
Sorry: but for me, anyone who can't grasp these issues, and see through the media, needs to be looking at themselves.
BTW: Why so many Americans and Brits in that song video? Because they haven't been subjected to what this illustrates:
Obviously a lot of the above posters have.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,,23760535-29277,00.htmlA string of letters written by Mercedes Corby, in which she repeatedly outlined her drug use, had discredited her as a witness, Mr Hughes also said.
He said the letters Ms Corby wrote to Ms Power while she was working in Japan in 1993 and 1994 "nailed the lie" that Corby was an infrequent drug user.
In one letter she wrote: "Japan has the best mull. I only need two or three puffs of a joint and I am wasted."
Ms Corby downplayed the letters during her evidence, saying she exaggerated her claims to show off to Ms Power.
"(Ms Corby said) her total consumption during the period when she was in Japan was no more than half a joint," Mr Hughes told the jury.
"Can you possibly believe that after these enthusiastic statements about her enjoyment of marijuana and the quality of the product?
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23693245-5017268,00.htmlMERCEDES Corby has admitted to taking ecstasy while having young children, branding her actions "reckless in the extreme", "grossly irresponsible" and "completely illegal".
The sister of convicted drug smuggler Schapelle Corby made the admission under fiery cross examination in her defamation battle with Channel Seven, which aired claims she was a drug dealer and taker.
Corby denies the allegations, made by her estranged friend Jodie Power and aired on Seven's Today Tonight current affairs show a year ago. Seven is using truth as its defence.
In the Supreme Court witness box, Corby admitted to taking ecstasy at least three times, as recently as 2002. Questioned by Tom Hughes Jnr, for Seven, she said her 2 1/2-month-old son and nine-month-old daughter were with her mother when she took a quarter of an ecstasy pillin a Gold Coast nightclub.
http://www.webehigh.com/city/detail.php?CITYID=2192Bali Marijuana prices: Aceh Weed and Nepalese hash 500,000 Rupiah for a good 10 grams, though make sure you bargain you will initially be charged much more and u can get the price down to 350,000 Rupiah. Australian hydro varies, Aussies get better prices than others, though its about 30 USD for a gram, but as I said earlier prices vary greatly ive heard people saying they’ve paid as much as 80 USD for a gram. Though generally I suggest you don’t pay that much, it means prices go up and stay up.
a recent erport we recieved is: "The prices that are stated in the original report are rip off prices, however if you are a tourist and cannot speak the language or are only speaking from a book, you will generally get those sorts of prices. Good weed is indeed incredibly hard to come by, but if you are a good negotiator (and you manage to find it) you can get it for 50-100 thou, depending on your attitude with the guy."
Originally Posted by julia
You can't compare nicotine with heroin. To do so just demonstrates your ignorance of both substances
Originally Posted by julia
I did not call you ignorant.
Nice try Julia - nice try
You gotta remember that the moving pen writes, and having writ, moves on
I find a lot of people on here to be ignorant and sick. Look at some of those posts above.
Schapelle Corby's legal and human rights were abused systematically. This is a matter of record. Anyone who doesn't know some of the abuses by now must have been living in a box: Refusal to test the drugs for country of origin? A judge who admitted he had never acquitted anyone in 500 drug cases? I could go on and on and on.
Yet some people her think that this is ok: forget it eh? Green light for all regimes like that to repeat for Oz citizens generally?
Then her suffering. 20 YEARS. That is barbaric. Even if she had had a trail, that is not a sentence, it is a POLITICAL statement. Schapelle Corby is suffering for that... for something she never had control of.
But that is ok, eh? Just leave her to rot: human compassion is for losers?
Sorry: but for me, anyone who can't grasp these issues, and see through the media, needs to be looking at themselves.
BTW: Why so many Americans and Brits in that song video? Because they haven't been subjected to what this illustrates:
Obviously a lot of the above posters have.
I've replied on another thread Julia. Link below.I note you seem to have declined my suggestion that you detail some background for your claim that heroin and nicotine are equal.
What peeves me off is you trying to use guilt to pull support and to justify any reason that takes any blame off her.Any one that does not support you is then placed in the mindless, sick or whatever else you can do to guilt people into.Do you know something, I REALLY hesitated in posting the above. Why? Because of the closed minds of people like the above poster. People who can't step outside the veneer that has been created by the media. People who seem to want to do anything possible to hurt this suffering woman further, and argue against her at every turn.
The facts are clear: her human rights were systematically abused.. As is clear from that report, and what everyone saw on TV, she didn't have a trial. THINK about what this means.
The she was then given a barbaric POLITICAL sentence: a sentence that bears no resemblance to the crime, whether she did it or not. THINK about what this means.
These are massive human rights issues: posting ambiguous pictures of a relation is simply more smear: more propaganda to hide these facts. It proves zip, to anyone of a sound thinking mind. It has nothing to do with the above points. Indeed: I really do wonder about the motive of someone who takes the time out to dig out pictures like that to post them here.
I'll bet everyone here has a relation who has smoked dope or done something stupid.If you are ever lined up for something you haven't done, or have your human rights trampled upon, or given a barbaric ridiculous political punishment to make a political point, you had better hope that people don't try to hide these core issues by spreading dodgy pictures of those relations. It is ugly.
Innocent until proven guilty? A basic right? Yeh. Unless you are Schapelle Corby: and your cries for the evidence to be tested are ignored, and you see it burned, and the CCTV tapes 'go missing', and you find the judge has never acquitted anyone... etc etc.
Oops, sorry: these are mere facts. Lets concentrate of grainy pictures of relations instead shall we? Let's listen to those smears about her now deceased father: even though Qld police issued a certificate of 'no disclosable outcomes' for him because presumably they were sick of the innuendo too (the media didn't tell you that, did they - WHY?).
Come on people, for goodness sake. It shouldn't be too difficult to step outside the media picture and pick out the facts - and then face them, as painful as that is.
Finally: this poor woman is suffering never ending turmoil. She is clinically depressed and has been medicated for months. She has been there for more than four years, and is facing another SIXTEEN. Whatever happened to compassion? Some people don't have it, and others seem to relish her pain so much they do their utmost to justify it.
What a world!
What peeves me off is you trying to use guilt to pull support and to justify any reason that takes any blame off her.Any one that does not support you is then placed in the mindless, sick or whatever else you can do to guilt people into.
Firstly she said(Merc corby) she 'never used drugs' in court. HER WORDS, She then admits to drug use after the evidence is clearly stacked against her, by HER own admission. That just proved she doesn't mind lying if she doesn't think she will get caught.
The picture is that the family is or has been involved in drugs. You try and say that it is all a lie, and gloss over some facts. But if there is enough evidence out there to say something is dodgy.
By the way
An offer by the Australian Federal Police to DNA test the cannabis was refused by Schapelle Corby's legal team
Clinton Rose
Corby's half-brother, Clinton Rose, has spent time in jail for a range of offences. He was serving a 15 months sentence in Queensland for breaking and entering and fraud. This was his second time in prison.[64] In January 2002, Rose was convicted of drug possession. He had pleaded guilty to what the Southport District Judge, Robert Hall, described as a "campaign of crime". Rose pleaded guilty to a total of 62 charges accumulated over a six-month period.[34]
James Kisina's arrest
Kisina was travelling with Corby when she was arrested in Bali. He had also been carrying the bodyboard bag before the arrest and had appeared in the media to support his sister.[65]
On the same day as the reinstatement of Corby's original sentence, he appeared in a Brisbane Magistrates Court on drug possession and assault charges.[66] Kisina, along with two friends, invaded the home of a well-known drug dealer, tied up the occupants and bashed a male occupant before fleeing with a quantity of cannabis and cash.[65] Police stated that the residents were threatened with an iron bar and menaced with a machete. On 17 January 2006, Queensland Police found cannabis in the home of Schapelle Corby's mother and half-brother.
How the hell do you not notice 4.5kilo in your bodyboard bag if you are carrying it. Thats roughly 2 bricks. A bodyboard weighs stuff all. The baggage handler affair has already been shot down.
Trial by media: Seemingly no effort was made to lower the profile of the case in the media. Even minor issues were the subject of headlines. The high profile of the case made it impossible to come to a quiet, negotiated settlement with the Indonesian justice system.
Persons associated with Corby publicly attacked the Indonesian judges and legal system in the media.
Yes instead of a quiet pay off, lets get the media involved and create a circus. Hey maybe your method of calling everyone involved in Indonesian corrupt and pi$$ em off even more by saying she is innocent
You would get more support for the humans right side of it then trying to prove her innocence. Your method of saying everyone else is wrong or lying is the wrong tactic IMO
Do you know something, I REALLY hesitated in posting the above. Why? Because of the closed minds of people like the above poster. People who can't step outside the veneer that has been created by the media. People who seem to want to do anything possible to hurt this suffering woman further, and argue against her at every turn.
The facts are clear: her human rights were systematically abused.. As is clear from that report, and what everyone saw on TV, she didn't have a trial. THINK about what this means.
The she was then given a barbaric POLITICAL sentence: a sentence that bears no resemblance to the crime, whether she did it or not. THINK about what this means.
These are massive human rights issues: posting ambiguous pictures of a relation is simply more smear: more propaganda to hide these facts. It proves zip, to anyone of a sound thinking mind. It has nothing to do with the above points. Indeed: I really do wonder about the motive of someone who takes the time out to dig out pictures like that to post them here.
I'll bet everyone here has a relation who has smoked dope or done something stupid.If you are ever lined up for something you haven't done, or have your human rights trampled upon, or given a barbaric ridiculous political punishment to make a political point, you had better hope that people don't try to hide these core issues by spreading dodgy pictures of those relations. It is ugly.
Innocent until proven guilty? A basic right? Yeh. Unless you are Schapelle Corby: and your cries for the evidence to be tested are ignored, and you see it burned, and the CCTV tapes 'go missing', and you find the judge has never acquitted anyone... etc etc.
Oops, sorry: these are mere facts. Lets concentrate of grainy pictures of relations instead shall we? Let's listen to those smears about her now deceased father: even though Qld police issued a certificate of 'no disclosable outcomes' for him because presumably they were sick of the innuendo too (the media didn't tell you that, did they - WHY?).
Come on people, for goodness sake. It shouldn't be too difficult to step outside the media picture and pick out the facts - and then face them, as painful as that is.
Finally: this poor woman is suffering never ending turmoil. She is clinically depressed and has been medicated for months. She has been there for more than four years, and is facing another SIXTEEN. Whatever happened to compassion? Some people don't have it, and others seem to relish her pain so much they do their utmost to justify it.
What a world!
As is clear from that report, and what everyone saw on TV, she didn't have a trial. THINK about what this means.
The she was then given a barbaric POLITICAL sentence: a sentence that bears no resemblance to the crime, whether she did it or not. THINK about what this means.
These are massive human rights issues: posting ambiguous pictures of a relation is simply more smear: more propaganda to hide these facts. It proves zip, to anyone of a sound thinking mind. It has nothing to do with the above points. Indeed: I really do wonder about the motive of someone who takes the time out to dig out pictures like that to post them here.
Innocent until proven guilty? A basic right? Yeh. Unless you are Schapelle Corby: and your cries for the evidence to be tested are ignored, and you see it burned, and the CCTV tapes 'go missing', and you find the judge has never acquitted anyone... etc etc.
Oops, sorry: these are mere facts. Lets concentrate of grainy pictures of relations instead shall we? Let's listen to those smears about her now deceased father: even though Qld police issued a certificate of 'no disclosable outcomes' for him because presumably they were sick of the innuendo too (the media didn't tell you that, did they - WHY?).
Finally: this poor woman is suffering never ending turmoil. She is clinically depressed and has been medicated for months. She has been there for more than four years, and is facing another SIXTEEN.
An offer by the Australian Federal Police to DNA test the cannabis was refused by Schapelle Corby's legal team
A FORMER member of Schapelle Corby's legal team claimed last night the convicted drug trafficker refused to authorise DNA sampling of the marijuana haul she was caught with that could have proved her innocence.
Vasu Rasiah says he organised for a sample of the marijuana found in Corby's boogie board bag as she tried to enter Bali's Denpasar airport on October 8, 2004, to be tested to prove where it came from, as well as a lie-detector test, but that her sister Mercedes refused to participate.
"What we wanted was for them to tell their actual story so we can build a case," Mr Rasiah said last night.
"She (Mercedes) manipulated the entire situation. We had the privilege of requesting from the Bali police a sample to be tested. We had all the correspondence from these people. We put forward testing the drug for DNA and a lie-detector test."
Mr Rasiah, interviewed on the Seven Network, said Corby's Australian legal team had advised the family to participate. "But it was never done. They would never do it."
The Australian reported last February how Corby's Bali lawyers had rejected an offer from the Australian Federal Police to DNA test the bag and marijuana after police had told them the result would be reported to the Bali police.
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James Kisina's
On the same day as the reinstatement of Corby's original sentence, he appeared in a Brisbane Magistrates Court on drug possession and assault charges.[66] Kisina, along with two friends, invaded the home of a well-known drug dealer, tied up the occupants and bashed a male occupant before fleeing with a quantity of cannabis and cash.[65] Police stated that the residents were threatened with an iron bar and menaced with a machete. On 17 January 2006, Queensland Police found cannabis in the home of Schapelle Corby's mother and half-brother.
They would no doubt argue that, though this be madness, yet there's mehod in it.Her sentence is racist.
...and religionist.
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