Schapelle Corby - Innocent or Guilty?

[2020hindsight]

Sorry: but for me, anyone who can't grasp these issues, and see through the media, needs to be looking at themselves.

Zack, I'll say something , - the Lindy Chambelain episode had to be the lowest point that the Aussie media has ever experienced, or will ever experience

And there are similarities I concede (though Schapelle is far more vulnerable let's face it)

 

[Gundini]

Don't agree Rob. If you actually leave Bangkok or Phuket you can walk through fields with real Thai's pick pot and smoke opium which is a normal way of life for them. Their government representitives are the most corrupt people on earth. Bottom line is she doesn't deserve 20 years, put yourself in her position, think about not seeing your family, living in discusting conditions, your life being put on pause, and being treated like scum for 20 years, for a bag of pot? You can get a hooker to buy some pot off nearly any police officer over there it's a joke. How would you feel if it was your kid?

This is where I'm at.... Watching that video broke me up! Surely she is naive, and IMO this is not how she roles. Her involvement, if any doesn't deserve this treatment, and severity!

 

[2020hindsight]

You can't compare nicotine with heroin. To do so just demonstrates your ignorance of both substances

I did not call you ignorant.

Nice try Julia - nice try

You gotta remember that the moving pen writes, and having writ, moves on.

 

[moXJO]

I find a lot of people on here to be ignorant and sick. Look at some of those posts above.

Schapelle Corby's legal and human rights were abused systematically. This is a matter of record. Anyone who doesn't know some of the abuses by now must have been living in a box: Refusal to test the drugs for country of origin? A judge who admitted he had never acquitted anyone in 500 drug cases? I could go on and on and on.

Yet some people her think that this is ok: forget it eh? Green light for all regimes like that to repeat for Oz citizens generally?

Then her suffering. 20 YEARS. That is barbaric. Even if she had had a trail, that is not a sentence, it is a POLITICAL statement. Schapelle Corby is suffering for that... for something she never had control of.

But that is ok, eh? Just leave her to rot: human compassion is for losers?

Sorry: but for me, anyone who can't grasp these issues, and see through the media, needs to be looking at themselves.


BTW: Why so many Americans and Brits in that song video? Because they haven't been subjected to what this illustrates:


Obviously a lot of the above posters have.

I could care less for anyone involved in drug smuggling and that have been caught. I have even less respect for people trying to guilt me over what? A song and pictures to make me believe she is innocent. If you scratch the surface a little then you start getting a picture of a family involved in drug taking. And father, possibility of cultivation and dealing.

If I were to publicly fight her case on a forum it would be more focused on the long sentence she received and her treatment. Rather then her innocence.

And trying to bring people around by calling them ignorant and sick is a bit daft. All you have shown is a song backed up with a bunch of nothing.

A string of letters written by Mercedes Corby, in which she repeatedly outlined her drug use, had discredited her as a witness, Mr Hughes also said.

He said the letters Ms Corby wrote to Ms Power while she was working in Japan in 1993 and 1994 "nailed the lie" that Corby was an infrequent drug user.

In one letter she wrote: "Japan has the best mull. I only need two or three puffs of a joint and I am wasted."

Ms Corby downplayed the letters during her evidence, saying she exaggerated her claims to show off to Ms Power.

"(Ms Corby said) her total consumption during the period when she was in Japan was no more than half a joint," Mr Hughes told the jury.

"Can you possibly believe that after these enthusiastic statements about her enjoyment of marijuana and the quality of the product?

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,,23760535-29277,00.html

I've never taken drugs, Mercedes Corby tells court

MERCEDES Corby has admitted to taking ecstasy while having young children, branding her actions "reckless in the extreme", "grossly irresponsible" and "completely illegal".

The sister of convicted drug smuggler Schapelle Corby made the admission under fiery cross examination in her defamation battle with Channel Seven, which aired claims she was a drug dealer and taker.

Corby denies the allegations, made by her estranged friend Jodie Power and aired on Seven's Today Tonight current affairs show a year ago. Seven is using truth as its defence.

In the Supreme Court witness box, Corby admitted to taking ecstasy at least three times, as recently as 2002. Questioned by Tom Hughes Jnr, for Seven, she said her 2 1/2-month-old son and nine-month-old daughter were with her mother when she took a quarter of an ecstasy pill in a Gold Coast nightclub.

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23693245-5017268,00.html

All the video you showed contained was a bunch of blame pushing to everyone else but her. Four and a half kilos is a massive amount. A pound of good hydro is worth $4k-$5k and the aussie stuff is worth just as much if not more over there. Aus $20 gram Bali up to $30 US

Bali Marijuana prices: Aceh Weed and Nepalese hash 500,000 Rupiah for a good 10 grams, though make sure you bargain you will initially be charged much more and u can get the price down to 350,000 Rupiah. Australian hydro varies, Aussies get better prices than others, though its about 30 USD for a gram, but as I said earlier prices vary greatly ive heard people saying they’ve paid as much as 80 USD for a gram. Though generally I suggest you don’t pay that much, it means prices go up and stay up.

a recent erport we recieved is: "The prices that are stated in the original report are rip off prices, however if you are a tourist and cannot speak the language or are only speaking from a book, you will generally get those sorts of prices. Good weed is indeed incredibly hard to come by, but if you are a good negotiator (and you manage to find it) you can get it for 50-100 thou, depending on your attitude with the guy."

http://www.webehigh.com/city/detail.php?CITYID=2192

 

[Julia]

Originally Posted by julia
You can't compare nicotine with heroin. To do so just demonstrates your ignorance of both substances

Originally Posted by julia
I did not call you ignorant.

Nice try Julia - nice try

You gotta remember that the moving pen writes, and having writ, moves on

If you fail to see the difference between the two then I may indeed have to change my mind and call you ignorant after all.

No doubt your last sentence has some relevance in your mind. I'm so sorry that it eludes me.

I note you seem to have declined my suggestion that you detail some background for your claim that heroin and nicotine are equal.

This is my last response to you on this subject, 2020. I am foolish for being sucked into attempting to debate with you. It's always an entirely fruitless experience.

 

[ZackW]

I find a lot of people on here to be ignorant and sick. Look at some of those posts above.

Schapelle Corby's legal and human rights were abused systematically. This is a matter of record. Anyone who doesn't know some of the abuses by now must have been living in a box: Refusal to test the drugs for country of origin? A judge who admitted he had never acquitted anyone in 500 drug cases? I could go on and on and on.

Yet some people her think that this is ok: forget it eh? Green light for all regimes like that to repeat for Oz citizens generally?

Then her suffering. 20 YEARS. That is barbaric. Even if she had had a trail, that is not a sentence, it is a POLITICAL statement. Schapelle Corby is suffering for that... for something she never had control of.

But that is ok, eh? Just leave her to rot: human compassion is for losers?

Sorry: but for me, anyone who can't grasp these issues, and see through the media, needs to be looking at themselves.


BTW: Why so many Americans and Brits in that song video? Because they haven't been subjected to what this illustrates:


Obviously a lot of the above posters have.

Do you know something, I REALLY hesitated in posting the above. Why? Because of the closed minds of people like the above poster. People who can't step outside the veneer that has been created by the media. People who seem to want to do anything possible to hurt this suffering woman further, and argue against her at every turn.

The facts are clear: her human rights were systematically abused.. As is clear from that report, and what everyone saw on TV, she didn't have a trial. THINK about what this means.

The she was then given a barbaric POLITICAL sentence: a sentence that bears no resemblance to the crime, whether she did it or not. THINK about what this means.

These are massive human rights issues: posting ambiguous pictures of a relation is simply more smear: more propaganda to hide these facts. It proves zip, to anyone of a sound thinking mind. It has nothing to do with the above points. Indeed: I really do wonder about the motive of someone who takes the time out to dig out pictures like that to post them here.

I'll bet everyone here has a relation who has smoked dope or done something stupid. If you are ever lined up for something you haven't done, or have your human rights trampled upon, or given a barbaric ridiculous political punishment to make a political point, you had better hope that people don't try to hide these core issues by spreading dodgy pictures of those relations. It is ugly.


Innocent until proven guilty? A basic right? Yeh. Unless you are Schapelle Corby: and your cries for the evidence to be tested are ignored, and you see it burned, and the CCTV tapes 'go missing', and you find the judge has never acquitted anyone... etc etc.

Oops, sorry: these are mere facts. Lets concentrate of grainy pictures of relations instead shall we? Let's listen to those smears about her now deceased father: even though Qld police issued a certificate of 'no disclosable outcomes' for him because presumably they were sick of the innuendo too (the media didn't tell you that, did they - WHY?).

Come on people, for goodness sake. It shouldn't be too difficult to step outside the media picture and pick out the facts - and then face them, as painful as that is.

Finally: this poor woman is suffering never ending turmoil. She is clinically depressed and has been medicated for months. She has been there for more than four years, and is facing another SIXTEEN. Whatever happened to compassion? Some people don't have it, and others seem to relish her pain so much they do their utmost to justify it.

What a world!

 

[2020hindsight]

I note you seem to have declined my suggestion that you detail some background for your claim that heroin and nicotine are equal.

I've replied on another thread Julia. Link below.

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=372042&highlight=ADDICTIVENESS#post372042

 

[moXJO]

Do you know something, I REALLY hesitated in posting the above. Why? Because of the closed minds of people like the above poster. People who can't step outside the veneer that has been created by the media. People who seem to want to do anything possible to hurt this suffering woman further, and argue against her at every turn.

The facts are clear: her human rights were systematically abused.. As is clear from that report, and what everyone saw on TV, she didn't have a trial. THINK about what this means.

The she was then given a barbaric POLITICAL sentence: a sentence that bears no resemblance to the crime, whether she did it or not. THINK about what this means.

These are massive human rights issues: posting ambiguous pictures of a relation is simply more smear: more propaganda to hide these facts. It proves zip, to anyone of a sound thinking mind. It has nothing to do with the above points. Indeed: I really do wonder about the motive of someone who takes the time out to dig out pictures like that to post them here.

I'll bet everyone here has a relation who has smoked dope or done something stupid. If you are ever lined up for something you haven't done, or have your human rights trampled upon, or given a barbaric ridiculous political punishment to make a political point, you had better hope that people don't try to hide these core issues by spreading dodgy pictures of those relations. It is ugly.


Innocent until proven guilty? A basic right? Yeh. Unless you are Schapelle Corby: and your cries for the evidence to be tested are ignored, and you see it burned, and the CCTV tapes 'go missing', and you find the judge has never acquitted anyone... etc etc.

Oops, sorry: these are mere facts. Lets concentrate of grainy pictures of relations instead shall we? Let's listen to those smears about her now deceased father: even though Qld police issued a certificate of 'no disclosable outcomes' for him because presumably they were sick of the innuendo too (the media didn't tell you that, did they - WHY?).

Come on people, for goodness sake. It shouldn't be too difficult to step outside the media picture and pick out the facts - and then face them, as painful as that is.

Finally: this poor woman is suffering never ending turmoil. She is clinically depressed and has been medicated for months. She has been there for more than four years, and is facing another SIXTEEN. Whatever happened to compassion? Some people don't have it, and others seem to relish her pain so much they do their utmost to justify it.

What a world!

What peeves me off is you trying to use guilt to pull support and to justify any reason that takes any blame off her.Any one that does not support you is then placed in the mindless, sick or whatever else you can do to guilt people into.

Firstly she said(Merc corby) she 'never used drugs' in court. HER WORDS, She then admits to drug use after the evidence is clearly stacked against her, by HER own admission. That just proved she doesn't mind lying if she doesn't think she will get caught.

The picture is that the family is or has been involved in drugs. You try and say that it is all a lie, and gloss over some facts. But if there is enough evidence out there to say something is dodgy.
By the way
An offer by the Australian Federal Police to DNA test the cannabis was refused by Schapelle Corby's legal team

Clinton Rose
Corby's half-brother, Clinton Rose, has spent time in jail for a range of offences. He was serving a 15 months sentence in Queensland for breaking and entering and fraud. This was his second time in prison.[64] In January 2002, Rose was convicted of drug possession. He had pleaded guilty to what the Southport District Judge, Robert Hall, described as a "campaign of crime". Rose pleaded guilty to a total of 62 charges accumulated over a six-month period.[34]


James Kisina's arrest
Kisina was travelling with Corby when she was arrested in Bali. He had also been carrying the bodyboard bag before the arrest and had appeared in the media to support his sister.[65]

On the same day as the reinstatement of Corby's original sentence, he appeared in a Brisbane Magistrates Court on drug possession and assault charges.[66] Kisina, along with two friends, invaded the home of a well-known drug dealer, tied up the occupants and bashed a male occupant before fleeing with a quantity of cannabis and cash.[65] Police stated that the residents were threatened with an iron bar and menaced with a machete. On 17 January 2006, Queensland Police found cannabis in the home of Schapelle Corby's mother and half-brother.

How the hell do you not notice 4.5kilo in your bodyboard bag if you are carrying it. Thats roughly 2 bricks. A bodyboard weighs stuff all. The baggage handler affair has already been shot down.


Trial by media: Seemingly no effort was made to lower the profile of the case in the media. Even minor issues were the subject of headlines. The high profile of the case made it impossible to come to a quiet, negotiated settlement with the Indonesian justice system.
Persons associated with Corby publicly attacked the Indonesian judges and legal system in the media.

Yes instead of a quiet pay off, lets get the media involved and create a circus. Hey maybe your method of calling everyone involved in Indonesian corrupt and pi$$ em off even more by saying she is innocent

If you want some advice don't blame Indonesia and hurt her chances further.
You would get more support for the human rights side of it then trying to prove her innocence. Your method of saying everyone else is wrong or lying is the wrong tactic IMO.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

What peeves me off is you trying to use guilt to pull support and to justify any reason that takes any blame off her.Any one that does not support you is then placed in the mindless, sick or whatever else you can do to guilt people into.

Firstly she said(Merc corby) she 'never used drugs' in court. HER WORDS, She then admits to drug use after the evidence is clearly stacked against her, by HER own admission. That just proved she doesn't mind lying if she doesn't think she will get caught.

The picture is that the family is or has been involved in drugs. You try and say that it is all a lie, and gloss over some facts. But if there is enough evidence out there to say something is dodgy.
By the way
An offer by the Australian Federal Police to DNA test the cannabis was refused by Schapelle Corby's legal team

Clinton Rose
Corby's half-brother, Clinton Rose, has spent time in jail for a range of offences. He was serving a 15 months sentence in Queensland for breaking and entering and fraud. This was his second time in prison.[64] In January 2002, Rose was convicted of drug possession. He had pleaded guilty to what the Southport District Judge, Robert Hall, described as a "campaign of crime". Rose pleaded guilty to a total of 62 charges accumulated over a six-month period.[34]


James Kisina's arrest
Kisina was travelling with Corby when she was arrested in Bali. He had also been carrying the bodyboard bag before the arrest and had appeared in the media to support his sister.[65]

On the same day as the reinstatement of Corby's original sentence, he appeared in a Brisbane Magistrates Court on drug possession and assault charges.[66] Kisina, along with two friends, invaded the home of a well-known drug dealer, tied up the occupants and bashed a male occupant before fleeing with a quantity of cannabis and cash.[65] Police stated that the residents were threatened with an iron bar and menaced with a machete. On 17 January 2006, Queensland Police found cannabis in the home of Schapelle Corby's mother and half-brother.

How the hell do you not notice 4.5kilo in your bodyboard bag if you are carrying it. Thats roughly 2 bricks. A bodyboard weighs stuff all. The baggage handler affair has already been shot down.


Trial by media: Seemingly no effort was made to lower the profile of the case in the media. Even minor issues were the subject of headlines. The high profile of the case made it impossible to come to a quiet, negotiated settlement with the Indonesian justice system.
Persons associated with Corby publicly attacked the Indonesian judges and legal system in the media.

Yes instead of a quiet pay off, lets get the media involved and create a circus. Hey maybe your method of calling everyone involved in Indonesian corrupt and pi$$ em off even more by saying she is innocent

You would get more support for the humans right side of it then trying to prove her innocence. Your method of saying everyone else is wrong or lying is the wrong tactic IMO

A very comprehensive summary of the facts moXJo.

Zak, you commit the crime, you do the time, anywhere in the world.

You do it in Indonesia you do Indonesian time.

gg

 

[pilots]

Do you know something, I REALLY hesitated in posting the above. Why? Because of the closed minds of people like the above poster. People who can't step outside the veneer that has been created by the media. People who seem to want to do anything possible to hurt this suffering woman further, and argue against her at every turn.

The facts are clear: her human rights were systematically abused.. As is clear from that report, and what everyone saw on TV, she didn't have a trial. THINK about what this means.

The she was then given a barbaric POLITICAL sentence: a sentence that bears no resemblance to the crime, whether she did it or not. THINK about what this means.

These are massive human rights issues: posting ambiguous pictures of a relation is simply more smear: more propaganda to hide these facts. It proves zip, to anyone of a sound thinking mind. It has nothing to do with the above points. Indeed: I really do wonder about the motive of someone who takes the time out to dig out pictures like that to post them here.

I'll bet everyone here has a relation who has smoked dope or done something stupid. If you are ever lined up for something you haven't done, or have your human rights trampled upon, or given a barbaric ridiculous political punishment to make a political point, you had better hope that people don't try to hide these core issues by spreading dodgy pictures of those relations. It is ugly.


Innocent until proven guilty? A basic right? Yeh. Unless you are Schapelle Corby: and your cries for the evidence to be tested are ignored, and you see it burned, and the CCTV tapes 'go missing', and you find the judge has never acquitted anyone... etc etc.

Oops, sorry: these are mere facts. Lets concentrate of grainy pictures of relations instead shall we? Let's listen to those smears about her now deceased father: even though Qld police issued a certificate of 'no disclosable outcomes' for him because presumably they were sick of the innuendo too (the media didn't tell you that, did they - WHY?).

Come on people, for goodness sake. It shouldn't be too difficult to step outside the media picture and pick out the facts - and then face them, as painful as that is.

Finally: this poor woman is suffering never ending turmoil. She is clinically depressed and has been medicated for months. She has been there for more than four years, and is facing another SIXTEEN. Whatever happened to compassion? Some people don't have it, and others seem to relish her pain so much they do their utmost to justify it.

What a world!

Zackw,I for one DON'T feel sorry for her, she was holding the goods, GUILTY.
She now must take what the Indonesians hand out to her.

 

[ZackW]

No, I don't expect compassion from people who are compassionless. I expect what I get: excuses and smears to try to justify a barbaric POLITICAL sentence and human rights abusing show trial. That is what some people are like. Maybe they are just foul people, or perhaps just brainwashed by the media:

This is such an important film.

I expect certain people to run around producing stories of relations and all and sundry, rather than confront the REAL facts of the CASE:

As is clear from that report, and what everyone saw on TV, she didn't have a trial. THINK about what this means.

The she was then given a barbaric POLITICAL sentence: a sentence that bears no resemblance to the crime, whether she did it or not. THINK about what this means.

These are massive human rights issues: posting ambiguous pictures of a relation is simply more smear: more propaganda to hide these facts. It proves zip, to anyone of a sound thinking mind. It has nothing to do with the above points. Indeed: I really do wonder about the motive of someone who takes the time out to dig out pictures like that to post them here.

Innocent until proven guilty? A basic right? Yeh. Unless you are Schapelle Corby: and your cries for the evidence to be tested are ignored, and you see it burned, and the CCTV tapes 'go missing', and you find the judge has never acquitted anyone... etc etc.

Oops, sorry: these are mere facts. Lets concentrate of grainy pictures of relations instead shall we? Let's listen to those smears about her now deceased father: even though Qld police issued a certificate of 'no disclosable outcomes' for him because presumably they were sick of the innuendo too (the media didn't tell you that, did they - WHY?).

Finally: this poor woman is suffering never ending turmoil. She is clinically depressed and has been medicated for months. She has been there for more than four years, and is facing another SIXTEEN.

I expect certain people to simply not understand the ISSUES... issues not being the behaviour of relations, but the abuse of human rights (ref: show trial), the political rather than judicial sentence, and a subsequent big thumbs up all round from the Australian government/media to abuse the human rights of Australians in the future.

The callousness and indifference to suffering and abuse demonstrated here defines the people who post it. It does not change the issues, nor the increasingly damaged reputation of Australia amongst those who explore the case and see posts like the above.

Perhaps the poll should ask questions about each of the many human rights breaches Schapelle Corby suffered at the show trial. Or ask if it is ok for a president to interfere with an on-going case pre-verdict. Or ask if it is good that evidence is burned without vital tests being performed. Or ask whether being sent to a hell hole for longer than many rapists/murders for having dope in your bag resembles justice. Or whatever.

But what the hell. Apparently "she was holding the goods" so everything is rosy then. Unbelievable!

 

[moXJO]

An offer by the Australian Federal Police to DNA test the cannabis was refused by Schapelle Corby's legal team

A FORMER member of Schapelle Corby's legal team claimed last night the convicted drug trafficker refused to authorise DNA sampling of the marijuana haul she was caught with that could have proved her innocence.
Vasu Rasiah says he organised for a sample of the marijuana found in Corby's boogie board bag as she tried to enter Bali's Denpasar airport on October 8, 2004, to be tested to prove where it came from, as well as a lie-detector test, but that her sister Mercedes refused to participate.

"What we wanted was for them to tell their actual story so we can build a case," Mr Rasiah said last night.

"She (Mercedes) manipulated the entire situation. We had the privilege of requesting from the Bali police a sample to be tested. We had all the correspondence from these people. We put forward testing the drug for DNA and a lie-detector test."

Mr Rasiah, interviewed on the Seven Network, said Corby's Australian legal team had advised the family to participate. "But it was never done. They would never do it."

The Australian reported last February how Corby's Bali lawyers had rejected an offer from the Australian Federal Police to DNA test the bag and marijuana after police had told them the result would be reported to the Bali police.


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http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21222487-2,00.html


Real Facts above ZackW. That shoots the whole 'drug bag burning without tests' argument down.

All your Human rights references are valid. Saying it was somehow someone else's fault for Schapelle Corby's situation without further evidence coming to light will get you cut down though. And as far as the argument of who would be stupid enough to try and bring a bag of dope on a bodyboard. Well....

James Kisina's
On the same day as the reinstatement of Corby's original sentence, he appeared in a Brisbane Magistrates Court on drug possession and assault charges.[66] Kisina, along with two friends, invaded the home of a well-known drug dealer, tied up the occupants and bashed a male occupant before fleeing with a quantity of cannabis and cash.[65] Police stated that the residents were threatened with an iron bar and menaced with a machete. On 17 January 2006, Queensland Police found cannabis in the home of Schapelle Corby's mother and half-brother.

So the half brother is willing to do a home invasion, toe cut a dealer and then take the goods back to his mothers house. While his sister is in a Bali prison waiting to go to court for a dope smuggling conviction. Yeah thanks bro.

I would rather people know some actually truths about the case that they can form an opinion on. Not be blindly by BS.
I am not saying your cause is wrong. But you are grasping at straws with the whole innocent theory(unless some hard evidence comes to light).

I won't pick at you anymore

 

[pilots]

moXJO, What Zack can not under stand is that she is 100% GUILTY, no ifs or buts.
Zack just look at her family, that should tell you some thing.

 

[bambu]

Her sentence is racist.

...and religionist.

She was nailed to the cross of injustice...where she still hangs today...her life taken away by Muslim Indonesia.

STOP giving Indonesia $500m of our money every 52 weeks....give it NOTHING.

 

[2020hindsight]

Her sentence is racist.

...and religionist.

They would no doubt argue that, though this be madness, yet there's mehod in it.

btw, Does that make them Methodist?

PS I agree that their courts and their sloppy treatment of evidence (as Explod has pointed out) are hopeless.

Not sure it's racist though is it? - all colours and creeds in their jails surely. And they all probably had the same level of "justice".

 

[robert toms]

Anyone consider what would,and does happen,to Indonesian citizens that are caught trying to smuggle illicit substances into Indonesia?
In the same circumstances they may well have been terminated by now?

 

[ZackW]

Why am I not surprised about the worthless reference to a smear above: quoting a person who seems to have made a full time vocation out of trying to hurt Schapelle Corby even more. Fact: Rasiah was SACKED - and appears to have been trying to extract revenge ever since.

Another FACT: Schapelle Corby formally requested that the drugs be tested in December 2004. No: this is not based upon the a smear in the press, constructed around the words of someone with dubious motives. Check with the Australian Consulate in Bali! Go on... do it! No: you would much rather invest time and effort constructing posts in public which actually hurt someone in absolutely desperate need. Nice guy.

As for foul comments like "just look at her family": how about "just look at the video which I will post yet again for you". It is called guilt by association in the 6 step process which has managed opinion so effectively. Smears, innuendo and lies, against a family ill equipped to defend themselves.



Let's look at human rights abuses, political sentencing, and the ongoing cruelty instead shall we? These are the REAL issues.

The Australian media proving themselves to be the least ethical in the world again, and Australian government selling the human rights of Australians down the river via this case, are also worth of investigation. Smear though is smear: the people who buy it are very sad, those who post foul comments based upon it are... let's not go there.


Oh, and that GLOBAL protest and ground breaking video I mentioned previously? The one the Australian mainstream media are still hiding from the public? The story is buzzing in England and in the US (ref: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2008/12/prweb1719154.htm), the video is a landmark video (this has never been done before) but the media don’t cover it. Why do you think this is?



Had this been a smear, it would have been all over the place. Indeed, yesterday Murdoch’s rags even managed a farcical story of Schapelle Corby smiling, produced no doubt by virtue of the Indonesian Propaganda Dept. Life is such fun in the hell of an Indonesian prison.

It’s called opinion management: and from some of the comments on this board it is pretty darned effective.

 

[moXJO]

Anyway good luck with it all ZackW.

 

[Wysiwyg]

Has anyone noted that she would not have made the decision to do that and someone close (otherwise she would have ratted on them) hatched the idea.In affect she is serving time as an accessory after the fact.

Caught with the stash while the mastermind got away.

 

[nick2fish]

Mastermind ah...... Why does the name of a famous German car come to mind?....