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Both are real places.One call ostensibly from Salisbury in STh Australia, the other from Hermitage Tasmania.
The caller ID is spoofed by the hacker.Both are real places.
The former is suburban Adelaide. Not a particularly likely location for any kind of call centre etc but not totally implausible.
The latter is literally just a couple of farm houses in the middle of nowhere. It's a place marked on the map but it's not an actual town of any sort and from memory the road is gravel leading in from the south. No chance anyone's running a call centre or anything like that there. Well, not unless the farmer's got nothing else to do today.
The Banks should send a short clip from the movie "The Beekeeper", where the lady gets scammed of a couple of million, by a call centre.
The movie was over the top, but it did show how scammers just get remote access, with people who are computer illiterate.
The opening scene of the clip is at the end of the scam scene, the clip gets a bit rough after that, so be warned.
It would be interesting if scam centers were sorted out this way, recruiting would get difficult for them.
A very lucky couple and good on Westpac for having the SaferPay setup.The banks are getting better at delaying payments, I actually pre purchased some U.S airline tickets online the other day and the payment wouldn't go through.
I then received a phone call from the banks fraud detection unit and when I explained it was me that was purchasing the tickets, they cleared the payment.
A Queensland couple who thought they were handing over their hard earned savings to invest in corporate bonds have escaped making a horrifying mistake of sending $350,000 to a scammer with the help of their bank.
Ricky and Elaine, who have asked to not have their surname published, had been researching corporate bonds to invest in after selling their home.
But after selecting one that seemed legitimate, their future success quickly became a living nightmare when they had transferred their cash over to a scammer masquerading as an investment company called Investment Gateway.
After inquiring about the company, Ricky began emailing and speaking on the phone directly with a man who identified himself as Mark Edwards.
A quick Google search appeared to show Mark Edwards to be a reputable investor who had been featured in several stories about the stockmarket.
“I didn’t do anything till I did all my research,” Ricky told NewsWire.
“I got the company details and put them into ASIC and it was listed some time since 2003, it had been going for quite some time, and I looked at their other financial institutions.”
Ricky said the bonds were attached to Commonwealth Bank, and again when he googled the code it appeared on the London Stock Exchange and checked all of his boxes.
Eventually, the couple decided to send their money through to the company to buy the bonds they’d been promised.
It was late on a Friday and Ricky was on the phone with “Mr Edwards” who was talking him through the website he’d sent him to secure escrow.
“We did that part of the procedure but it was like leading a lamb to slaughter,” Ricky said.
“They managed to separate you from being concerned about where your money goes to worrying about the task about securing the bonds.”
Ricky said once the couple chose which escrow to use, everything started happening “quite quickly” before entering the final step of sending through the money.
“It came time to put the transfer the money and it got to Westpac and Westpac asked all these questions,” he said.
“While he was on the line he kept saying ‘you’re bound to get all these questions’.
“While he was talking, I’d googled the (escrow) company and it’s a real company.”
After the transfer was completed, Ricky said he discovered the escrow company had only been set up four days before the deal.
While trying to call “Mr Edwards” repeatedly with no answer, Ricky kept searching online for more details about the escrow company where he’d just sent his money.
“I looked at the BSB but it was for the ANZ bank in Byron Bay,” he said.
“If it looked like a real corporate company in Melbourne, why did it have a Tuncurry address while using a Byron Bay bank.”
That’s when it clicked.
“I’d been scammed,” Ricky said.
“I’m one of the most careful guys you can come across, and he still got me.
“It was almost like telephone numbers, you forgot the real value of it.”
Ricky and his wife were “nervous all night” while they waited to call Westpac at 8am on Saturday morning.
“We rung up Westpac and the lady on the end of the phone was so good and said ‘the money is coming back into your account’ and they would have called us if we hadn’t called them,” he said.
“I was so relieved.
“I’d have lost my money if it wasn’t for that.”
The couple’s hard earned cash had been protected by Westpac’s SaferPay capability which puts a 24-hour hold on transfers the bank flags as a potential scam.
Westpac Head of Fraud Prevention Ben Young said the SaferPay capability allows people to avoid “considerable heartache”.
“Through the series of questions asked as part of Westpac’s SaferPay capability, the transfer was flagged as being a result of a potential scam and put on hold,” Mr Young said.
A very lucky couple and good on Westpac for having the SaferPay setup.
We bank with Bank West here in WA and if we make a payment to someone who is not on our payment list, the payment does not go through until the Bank verifies it is us and a legit payment.
It doesn't matter what the amount is whether it be $10 or $10,000.
good surf break at the end of the gravel road... when the swell pushes in.The latter is literally just a couple of farm houses in the middle of nowhere. It's a place marked on the map but it's not an actual town of any sort and from memory the road is gravel leading in from the south. No chance anyone's running a call centre or anything like that there.
Walking the plank and hanging five on the curve !!!!!good surf break at the end of the gravel road... when the swell pushes in.
Hopefully and happily you will be the recipient of the $400 in the bank's good time.After six months, the bank advised it has determined I was not at fault when my card was used fraudulently to purchase goods from a jeweller and make a donation to some obscure overseas organisation. All for $400 in total. I suspect whatever the bank did to investigate the matter would have cost more than that but it's now a cost of doing business and that cost will somehow flow through to us as customers.
Hopefully and happily you will be the recipient of the $400 in the bank's good time.
A cynic might suggest they knew straight away that it was not your carelessness that led to the fraudulent transactions, but they string out the announcement for six months to pretend they are doing some serious forensic investigative work.The bank re-credited the amount on a temporary basis about two weeks after I reported the fraudulent use. I think that was a nice gesture.
A cynic might suggest they knew straight away that it was not your carelessness that led to the fraudulent transactions, but they string out the announcement for six months to pretend they are doing some serious forensic investigative work.
Mick (the cynic).
And if that had been the case one could be cynical and suggest that is the thieving banks for you.Maybe but all I required was my funds being returned so I really could not care less if the bank did or did not undertake any investigations. The fact the money was re-credited, albeit on a supposedly temporary basis,within two weeks was not only a nice gesture but the indication the cards were falling my way. The bank could been bloody-minded and held the funds back for a long time.
After realising his error, Wright immediately contacted the Australian authorities. “They had no real interest and today, after all this time, there is still no progress,” he says.Australia’s high rate of gambling and risk-taking behaviour may also contribute. Scammers often exploit these tendencies.
UNSW Business School’s Dr Kam-Fung (Henry) Cheung
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