Saturday's popcorn discussion - Love and 'The One'

[Sean K]

This topic probably isn't as exciting as homosexuality, but an interesting one nonetheless. Well, to me anyway.

What is the point of 'love'.
What is love?
Are their different types of love?
Can we love forever?
Can we manage a relationship to make love last?
Should we need to love forever?
Is there a 'one' for everyone, or is that a load of crap?

There's a number of other questions, but that might do for now.

This might not be as exciting, or as controversial, as homosexuality. Sorry.

Look forward to Joe receiving various PMs asking for my removal after this.

Oh, my position?

I'd like to quote the great man himself.

"Love is a myth invented by people to stop them from jumping out of windows". GG circa 1985

(actually, that's not my position, but I wanted to put a GG quote in and that was sort of relevant)

 

[sam76]

Is homosexual love the same as hetrosexual love?

ie: is love pure?



If love is ultimate, then why are we forbidden to love stocks?


Kennas, I'm going to have to nickname you "Wormy*" if you continue down this path - lol

* as in "he who opens many cans of worms"

 

[Sean K]

Is homosexual love the same as hetrosexual love?

ie: is love pure?

I think so. Love is love, whatever that is.

I think we decided homosexuality was 'normal' so, love is love....

There's probably some crossover in the discussion here.

 

[sam76]

I

There's probably some crossover in the discussion here.

You can call me "Stoker" as in "one who continually stokes fires!"

 

[Sean K]

You can call me "Stoker" as in "one who continually stokes fires!"

I'm not sure about 'wormy' Sam. It implies small.

 

[sam76]

I'm not sure about 'wormy' Sam. It implies small.

ok. "The opener"

sorry for digressing.

 

[Sean K]

ok. "The opener"

sorry for digressing.

The Can Opener works for me. I'll ask Joe for a change of nic.

 

[Speewha]

Hello,

Sorry no answer to the big question’s but will offer this from Warren Zevon;

They say love conquers all, you can’t start it like a car, you can’t stop it with a gun.

You may think might be better on the song lyrics thread, but I sort of feel is
relevant here to


Regards

 

[springhill]

1. What is the point of 'love'.
2. What is love?
3. Are their different types of love?
4. Can we love forever?
5. Can we manage a relationship to make love last?
6. Should we need to love forever?
7. Is there a 'one' for everyone, or is that a load of crap?

I think i can answer a few of these Qs

1. Love makes the world go round - Bob Dylan
2. Love is a Battlefield - Pat Benetar
3. Love is a many splendored thing - Frank Sinatra
4. I will always love you - Mariah Carey
5. Whats love got to do with it? - Tina Turner
6. Endless love - Diana Ross
7. Love will keep us together - Captain & Tennile

Right i dunno any of these crappy songs, i had to google alot to get you these answers kennas.... thought it might help clear up a lifetime of anguish n sleepless nites thinking about the vexities of love
Apologies to the artists concerned for calling their songs crap, but they really are

 

[Sean K]

Does being 'crazy in love' actually mean you're temporarily out of your mind?

As insane?

So, another question.

Is love biological, psychological, or psychiatric?

 

[Sean K]

I think i can answer a few of these Qs

1. Love makes the world go round - Bob Dylan
2. Love is a Battlefield - Pat Benetar
3. Love is a many splendored thing - Frank Sinatra
4. I will always love you - Mariah Carey
5. Whats love got to do with it? - Tina Turner
6. Endless love - Diana Ross
7. Love will keep us together - Captain & Tennile

Right i dunno any of these crappy songs, i had to google alot to get you these answers kennas.... thought it might help clear up a lifetime of anguish n sleepless nites thinking about the vexities of love
Apologies to the artists concerned for calling their songs crap, but they really are

Nice.

And, Love will keep us together. of course. Not sure who sang that.

Anyone wondering about ideas of what love actually is, should go and hire 'Love Actually'.

Nice movie.

 

[justjohn]

''LOVE'':blover: is there a happy medium for this word.It's either over used or rarely used.Myself, love is almost non-existant in my vocab ,are you suppose to get a warm fuzzy feeling when you say it or a sharp pain in the butt buy one of Cupids arrows.No denying to power of this word though an example is that I had a life threating operation last year and before they wheeled me in ,I held my wife's(partner almost 30 years) hand and gave her those 3 words ''I love you ''.When I came out of my self -enduced coma almost 2 days later her thought was of those 3 words ,not how I was:.So now sometimes I use it on my 3 teenagers when they are going through a rough patch just to re-assure them that they are LOVED

 

[Sean K]

''LOVE'':blover: is there a happy medium for this word.It's either over used or rarely used.Myself, love is almost non-existant in my vocab ,are you suppose to get a warm fuzzy feeling when you say it or a sharp pain in the butt buy one of Cupids arrows.No denying to power of this word though an example is that I had a life threating operation last year and before they wheeled me in ,I held my wife's(partner almost 30 years) hand and gave her those 3 words ''I love you ''.When I came out of my self -enduced coma almost 2 days later her thought was of those 3 words ,not how I was:.So now sometimes I use it on my 3 teenagers when they are going through a rough patch just to re-assure them that they are LOVED

There seems to be a REALLY big deal about saying 'I love you' for the first time.

Possibly the hardest, and most nerve racking thing, you go through as a youngster. And oldster.

Must be significant for some reason.

 

[natashia]

"in my vocab ,are you suppose to get a warm fuzzy feeling when you say it or a sharp pain in the butt buy one of Cupids arrows"





hhhahaha that is so funny : :

 

[Bushman]

Love is a biological means to keep people coupled together to aide with child raising.

Doesn't mean it is not a great feeling that inspires poetry, Taj Mahal's and golden wedding rings.

As for the 'H' thread, I thought it was a very interesting thread that deserved its place. But, as with all the greyer areas in life, people (including myself esp with a hangover) are emotionally attached to certain vantage points due to intellect, loved ones, religion, cultural conditioning etc. Hence the passionate, but nonetheless interesting, debate.

Anyway lads I have one for you. There was a presentation given at this week's Australian Medical Students Association that men might well become redundant due to medical advances that allows for IVF fertilisation and artificial sem*n being cloned from female DNA. Given the erosion of the role of males from hunter/warrior to unisex fashion model, is the time clock ticking on maledom and will we be biologically engineered out of the human equation. Males tend to be quite destabilising in modern society in terms of violence, warfare, tribalism and the like. So is it the time of the Amazon upon us?

The presentation was tongue in cheek but draws on some fairly self evident medical trends as human fertility can now be reproduced in the medical ward and human DNA is unravelled and understood.

Anyway I am a male so I am somewhat miffed that the value seen in males is inexorably eroded in today's society. But nature has been controlled and nurture is now seen as being paramount. Can us hairy, belching, beer swilling dinosaurs survive?

 

[Sean K]

Love is a biological means to keep people coupled together to aide with child raising.

Doesn't mean it is not a great feeling that inspires poetry, Taj Mahal's and golden wedding rings.

As for the 'H' thread, I thought it was a very interesting thread that deserved its place. But, as with all the greyer areas in life, people (including myself esp with a hangover) are emotionally attached to certain vantage points due to intellect, loved ones, religion, cultural conditioning etc. Hence the passionate, but nonetheless interesting, debate.

Anyway lads I have one for you. There was a presentation given at this week's Australian Medical Students Association that men might well become redundant due to medical advances that allows for IVF fertilisation and artificial sem*n being cloned from female DNA. Given the erosion of the role of males from hunter/warrior to unisex fashion model, is the time clock ticking on maledom and will we be biologically engineered out of the human equation. Males tend to be quite destabilising in modern society in terms of violence, warfare, tribalism and the like. So is it the time of the Amazon upon us?

The presentation was tongue in cheek but draws on some fairly self evident medical trends as human fertility can now be reporduced in the medical ward and human DNA is unravelled and understood.

Anyway I am a male so I am somewhat miffed that the value seen in males is inexorably eroded in today's society. But nature has been controlled and nuture is now seen as being paramount. Can us hairy, belching, beer swilling dinosaurs survive?

Agree with the first sentance, so what happens when children leave the nest? In the western world, when children go off and fend for themselves, the usefulness of love diminishes. Perhaps one of the reasons why the divorce rate is so high in the Western world, along with secularism. Perhaps they are linked.

In regards to the future need for men, I have a crazy theory that ET is the future human, come back in time. We will be totally androgenous at some point, as the sexes will not need to have, um, sexes..

Going to be a boring place.

Best we keep Pamelas around for as long as possible.

 

[Sean K]

This isn't very romantic is it?

What about romance, and fluttering of the heart, and flowers, and candlelight dinners, and all that stuff?

 

[Birdster]

I'm sure you all know;

"Love" means nothing to tennis players!

 

[Bushman]

This isn't very romantic is it?

What about romance, and fluttering of the heart, and flowers, and candlelight dinners, and all that stuff?

They aide in the process of attracting a mate?

Aw shucks, ok. There is a spiritual aspect to love too. The male/female dynamic is primieval and immensely powerful. When you look into your lover's eyes, it is a spiritual experience. But that does not mean it doesn't come from a biological base. Spirit and child rearing, being the quintessential human experiences, are inevitably intertwined to aide species survival.

As for us turning into ET, well it is probably best that we turn into a-sexuals. Imagine shagging ET?

 

[Sean K]

They aide in the process of attracting a mate?

Aw shucks, ok. There is a spiritual aspect to love too. The male/female dynamic is primieval and immensely powerful. When you look into your lover's eyes, it is a spiritual experience. But that does not mean it doesn't come from a biological base. Spirit and child rearing, being the quintessential human experiences, are inevitably intertwined to aide species survival.

As for us turning into ET, well it is probably best that we turn into a-sexuals. Imagine shagging ET?

Damn it Bushman, your getting to the point too quick! LOL

Interesting point about who you fall in love with though.

Why is that? There must be something that we see in others that draws us too them.

Again, jumping to the procreation theory and best chance of survival.

It's why boys go for big boobs and girls go for big shoulders or wallets.


And yes, best not ET, but think about it. How can aliens appear and disappear in and out of our atmosphere without popping up on radars? It's time travel! lol