Saturday's (or Sunday's) popcorn discussion...are we holding back our development?

Sean K · 6 September 2008

It's been a few weeks since I've disrespected anyone.

Sorry, been off my game....

Some options:

1. There are too many people on the planet, and how will it pan out? Solutions?
2. Will humans evolve to be androgynous?
3. Does anyone think it odd that the media do stories on the media?
4. Are aliens actually humans coming back in time?
5. Will we all be speaking Mandarin in 200 years?
6. Why does everyone cheat on their life partner? (currently at 50% prob)
7. Why do we allow other 'people' to continue to exist who participate in 'cheer squads'? - just check out the people supporting the Western Bulldogs (Footscray).
8. Why is the TV show, 'The girls of the Playboy Mansion' acceptable to any female in this world?

I could go on, but....it's getting late in Brazil...

Maybe someone can choose a topic?

I think the 'Girls of the Playboy Mansion' is a doozie!

2020hindsight · 6 September 2008

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hell, we've done religion politics and sexual preferences. mmm... sheesh all the good ones are done!

PS what a great bit of lateral thinking there kennas, what a concept lol - the buddhist believing in UFOs lol -
and coming back as an alien

2020hindsight · 6 September 2008

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How about

"Who was the better poet? Louisa Lawson or her drunkard son? Implications for glass ceilings etc"

PS Maybe something more general like "Favourite Australian literature"? (or don't any of us have any favourites )

http://www.womenaustralia.info/biogs/AWE1156b.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisa_Lawson

http://oldpoetry.com/oauthor/show/Louisa_Lawson

The City Bird

A city bird once in a desperate rage
Threw over the bars of his screen
The whole of the seed that was put in his cage,
And it grew to a miniature green.

Sometimes when my troubles come up in a mass,
And fate a new sorrow doth send,
I turn my wet eyes to that bright bit of grass
As I would to the face of a friend.

For often it helps me to face a new day,
Where Sydney at worst must be seen,
To look on the sparkling dew as it lay
On the blades of the city-yard green.

Returning again at the end of the day
When I sit myself wearily down,
The scent of the grass takes me ever away
From the fret of a dust-covered town.

I wish when they lay me away to my rest,
And bosom and brain are serene,
Some friend would remember to plant o'er my breast
A tuft of that city-yard green.

PS There was a great ABC radio audio doco on her the other day ...

2020hindsight · 6 September 2008

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PS worth a listen if you get a solitary moment ... (especially feminists lol) Actually she was not a feminist in today's meaning of the word - just a determined woman who fought for woman's suffrage in Aus.

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/lifeandtimes/stories/2008/2336777.htm

Putting Louisa first

In this week's radio biography from the ABC's archives, Jennifer Bowen looks at Louisa Lawson, the 19th century Australian journalist, poet, editor, driving force behind women's suffrage—and, quite incidentally, Henry Lawson's mother

This is the story of one of the most fascinating women from Australia's past.
Louisa Lawson first figured in the history books as the mother of writer Henry Lawson - and was generally cast in an unfavourable and dismissive light.

But over the last three decades Louisa Lawson has benefited from a continuing series of rediscoveries by academics and readers alike.

She is now recognised as a poet, publisher, campaigner for social justice, and an incisive commentator on relations between men and women. This program draws on Louisa Lawson's own published writing and her unpublished memoir; as well as on interviews with her biographer and her remaining relatives.

Publication
Title: Louisa
Author : Brian Matthews
Publisher: UQP 1998

Title: Louisa Lawson - Collected Poems with Selected Critical Commentaries
Author : eds: Leonie Rutherford and Megan Roughley with Nigel Spence
Publisher: University of New England 1997

Title: The First Voice of Australian Feminism - A Collection of the Writings of Louisa Lawson
Author : Olive Lawson
Publisher: Simon & Schuster 1990

2020hindsight · 6 September 2008

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Sarah Palin probably owes this lady a debt
(over and out)

http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/henry_and_louisa_lawson.html

When female Australian British subjects* won the vote with the Uniform Franchise Act (June 16, 1902), Louisa Lawson was hailed by her political sisters as “The Mother of Womanhood Suffrage”. It is a title that could be applied internationally; apart from her crusading in Sydney, Louisa was involved in the establishment of the suffragette movement in South Australia, the first place where women could both vote and stand for election (1894; source).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_women's_suffrage

Women's suffrage has been granted at various times in various countries throughout the world. In many countries women's suffrage was granted before universal suffrage, so women (and men) from certain classes or races were still unable to vote, while some granted it to both sexes at the same time.

The timeline below lists years when women's suffrage was enacted in various places. In many cases the first voting took place in a subsequent year.

New Zealand in 1893 is often said to be the first "country" in the world to give women the right to vote. However, it was then a British colony and other sub-national entities had earlier given certain women voting rights.(New Zealand became an independent nation some time between 1907 and 1947 although constitutional historians disagree as to exactly when.)[1]

2020hindsight · 6 September 2008

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_women's_suffrage
Timeline of women's suffrage

1718 ... Sweden Female taxpaying members of the citite's guilds are allowed to vote in local elections (rescinded in 1758) and general elections (rescinded in the new constitution of 1771)

typical of those socialist Scandanavian countries

1902 Commonwealth of Australia (The Australian Constitution gave the federal franchise to all persons allowed to vote for the lower house in each state unless the Commonwealth Parliament stipulated otherwise. Thus, South Australian and Western Australian women could vote in the first federal election in 1901. During the first Parliament, the Commonwealth passed legislation extending federal franchise to non-Aboriginal women in all states.)

1920 .. United States (All remaining states)

1962 Australia: franchise extended to Aboriginal men and women.

1965 Afghanistan (revoked under Taliban rule 1996-2001) [8]

1994 South Africa: franchise extended to black men and women.

2006 United Arab Emirates (limited; to be expanded by 2010

etc etc

Sean K · 7 September 2008

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Doesn't look like the poet idea had legs 2020.

I think the only poets here are you and Wayne.

I'm trying to think of a Sunday discussion now......

Garpal Gumnut · 7 September 2008

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kennas said:
Doesn't look like the poet idea had legs 2020.

I think the only poets here are you and Wayne.

I'm trying to think of a Sunday discussion now......

Without being too controversial mate, and it being a Sunday and all, a comment by 2020 gave me an idea for a poppie.

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=332306&postcount=61

Was Jesus a Democrat or a Republican?

gg

Sean K · 7 September 2008

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Garpal Gumnut said:
Without being too controversial mate, and it being a Sunday and all, a comment by 2020 gave me an idea for a poppie.

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=332306&postcount=61

Was Jesus a Democrat or a Republican?

gg

He'd have to be a Democrat wouldn't he?

Although, he did seem to be choosie when handing out miracles.

You had to earn your miracle by being faithful, or being worthy, and the like.....

Today, to be cured, you need to put in 10%, or confess, don't have sex before marriage (or quickly get married before the thing shoots out), and not covert thy neighbours goat....

Hmmm, maybe he was a Republican.

Sean K · 7 September 2008

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OK, this one might have a few people punching each other:

Should intellectually impaired people, or those having hereditary disabilities, be allowed to procreate?

And, is welfare just another way of holding us back from reaching our true potential?

:couch

2020hindsight · 7 September 2008

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kennas said:
5. Will we all be speaking Mandarin in 200 years?

Just to change topic a sec lol - before you throw out those original options...

Sometimes I think that we should all learn Esperanto.
And maybe even design a "pidgin-mandarin-esperanto" that was more logical and easier to learn for all - or rather some blend of all languages.

I'm not a languages expert, although I speak a bit of Cantonese, and I'm sure the sentence construction in Mandarin is similar.

"How are you?" comes out literally as "you are well / not (well)?"
"I'm off to the movies" becomes "I go out see movie"
"have you eaten yet?" becomes "you've eaten already rice or not, ah?" where ah = eh?
"Sorry" becomes "next to you I should be dead" lol (excessively damned sorry if you ask me)

Anyway, I'm in favour of such a move to a universal language (other than straight English with its ridiculous inconsistencies - I'm sure I've made 3 grammatical errors just in this post for instance)

BUT BUT , lol
but no way do we forget our own language - else what would we do with all those magical Shakespearean quotes ?

wayneL · 7 September 2008

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Garpal Gumnut said:
Without being too controversial mate, and it being a Sunday and all, a comment by 2020 gave me an idea for a poppie.

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=332306&postcount=61

Was Jesus a Democrat or a Republican?

gg

AHHHHGGGGG!

Why must we presume he wants to be Americanized? He would give both of that lot a slappin'.

He would be a Tory, of course! (born to rule syndrome etc) :

LOL

wayneL · 7 September 2008

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kennas said:
Doesn't look like the poet idea had legs 2020.

I think the only poets here are you and Wayne.

I'm trying to think of a Sunday discussion now......

You think I'm a poet you say,
It was a flash in the pan.
Some spirit had taken my body,
To fulfill some frivoulous plan.

For never in the past no matter my will
There was never a chance of rhyming words
Though from Banjo came the inspiration
My efforts were like polishing turds

My plan was that rather than rhyme
I could write something prosaic
Something with a message, a meaning
Something touching, a verbal mosaic

Alas it is with tears that I report
That my attempts were quite dull
All rather dry with figures and facts
All stuff about bears and a bull

All of the the sudden the pen in my hand
Started writing sentences with a similar end
Ye Gods! the lines were rhyming, in a manner
(Though they were really for 2020 to offend)

Another alas, that spirit has gone
And left me to piece together old work
And string together some amateurish poem
That I'm sure will give you all cause to smirk

At the rubbishy piece
That I slaved over tonight
So have a laugh at me
And to all - Good night

Sorry

Sean K · 7 September 2008

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wayneL said:
My efforts were like polishing turds

Now THAT's waxing lyrical!!!

Garpal Gumnut · 7 September 2008

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wayneL said:
AHHHHGGGGG!

Why must we presume he wants to be Americanized? He would give both of that lot a slappin'.

He would be a Tory, of course! (born to rule syndrome etc) :

LOL

so right , it reminds me of the Life of Brian.

"A slappin we will go,
a slappin we will go
he hi yaddio a slappin we will go."

gg

Sean K · 7 September 2008

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JC was probably more like Siddhartha than any other 'prophet' from what I can make out when sifting through the historical noise. Well, that's what he's been made out to be anyway.

The 'healings' and the like are just BS to give him more legitamacy and make him part of the Trinity, whatever that is supposed to entail.

Now there's a nother topic....

Mofra · 7 September 2008

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kennas said:
1. There are too many people on the planet, and how will it pan out? Solutions?
2. Will humans evolve to be androgynous?
3. Does anyone think it odd that the media do stories on the media?
4. Are aliens actually humans coming back in time?
5. Will we all be speaking Mandarin in 200 years?
6. Why does everyone cheat on their life partner? (currently at 50% prob)
7. Why do we allow other 'people' to continue to exist who participate in 'cheer squads'? - just check out the people supporting the Western Bulldogs (Footscray).
8. Why is the TV show, 'The girls of the Playboy Mansion' acceptable to any female in this world?

1. Inequitable distribution of resources is a far greater problem than overpopulation
2. I hope not - where's the fun in that?
3. People are usually self-obsessed, why should shallow people be any different?
4. Are you Tom Cruise??
5. No, I'll probably be dead
6. All generalisations are false :
7. The Western Bulldogs are the greatest team on the planet, and most of their supporters are brave, smart & well hung (unfortunately, that last one includes some of the women)
8. It represents a fascinating insight into the female psyche of certain sub-cultures. I'm sure it is as scientific as any Alby Mangels special.

Sean K · 7 September 2008

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Hey Mofra!!

I've got a little case of insomnia so have time to play. I'm blue, you are green.

1. There are too many people on the planet, and how will it pan out? Solutions?

1. Inequitable distribution of resources is a far greater problem than overpopulation.

The planet will find a way to cull half the human species, or the planet will die. Alternatively, we find a way to bring back a balance. Unlikely at this point IMO.

2. Will humans evolve to be androgynous?

2. I hope not - where's the fun in that?

It's happening already. It's hard to tell the difference out there sometimes. Although fashions are cyclical. What's with the judges wigs?

3. Does anyone think it odd that the media do stories on the media?

3. People are usually self-obsessed, why should shallow people be any different?

Agree

4. Are aliens actually humans coming back in time?

4. Are you Tom Cruise??

I haven't jumped on a couch on international television for a while

5. Will we all be speaking Mandarin in 200 years?

5. No, I'll probably be dead

Well, when I come back, I'll probably be speaking it

6. Why does everyone cheat on their life partner? (currently at 50% prob)

6. All generalisations are false :

No, they are a mean. This is actually a more interesting topic

7. Why do we allow other 'people' to continue to exist who participate in 'cheer squads'? - just check out the people supporting the Western Bulldogs (Footscray).

7. The Western Bulldogs are the greatest team on the planet, and most of their supporters are brave, smart & well hung (unfortunately, that last one includes some of the women)

Didn't you just lose?

8. Why is the TV show, 'The girls of the Playboy Mansion' acceptable to any female in this world?

8. It represents a fascinating insight into the female psyche of certain sub-cultures. I'm sure it is as scientific as any Alby Mangels special.

Bloody hell, wish I was Hugh

Julia · 7 September 2008

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kennas said:
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Bloody hell, wish I was Hugh

You might like to reconsider that, Kennas.
Hugh is an old man now. I suspect the bunnies might be just for looking at in his case.
And perhaps to provoke thoughts of envy such as you have just described.

Garpal Gumnut · 7 September 2008

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Julia said:
You might like to reconsider that, Kennas.
Hugh is an old man now. I suspect the bunnies might be just for looking at in his case.
And perhaps to provoke thoughts of envy such as you have just described.

lol
Your grammar is slipping Julia but not your wit.

gg

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