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carmo said:
Lets not turn this into something trashy.
carmo said:Don't leave out Howard and Blair!
Kipp said:When is Bush standing trial?
Stan 101 said:They should have kept him alive and forced to help elderly people change their bedpans when not locked in solitary confinement.
cheers,
Interesting thought.It's Snake Pliskin said:Lets not turn this into something trashy.
rederob said:Interesting thought.
It's OK to declare war on a nation because they have a bad ruler (oops, non-existent weapons of mass destruction).
And then have a tag team of robotic followers who help Dubya with his master plan for Iraq.
Oooops, again.
Hang me, now where's that darn plan for Iraq?
PilskinIt's Snake Pliskin said:red,
Why do you always target me or my comments? But you fail to contribute in the threads of worth.
rederob said:Pilskin
Now what threads of worth are you talking about?
The ones that you contribute to that are not about the stock market?
Or the threads about the stock market?
Why don't you pick one and we can have a little chat to amuse ourselves at the expense of people that have something better to do with their time, ok!
Buy low said:I have no idea what happened in 1982, just saying what I heard.
Just because he disagrees with you, doesn't mean he isn't contributing something of worth.It's Snake Pliskin said:red,
Why do you always target me or my comments? But you fail to contribute in the threads of worth.
Sometimes being ignored has its advantages.It's Snake Pliskin said:You are a troublemaker and on ignore.
chops_a_must said:In my mind, without doubt, the reason why Bush wanted Saddam killed off so quickly, was so that he could not reveal that Reagan (and his dad), had not only supplied the chemicals and processes necessary for, but had also sanctioned the killing of the Kurds.
Maybe not the latter.chops_a_must said:In my mind, without doubt, the reason why Bush wanted Saddam killed off so quickly, was so that he could not reveal that Reagan (and his dad), had not only supplied the chemicals and processes necessary for, but had also sanctioned the killing of the Kurds.
Don't Hang Saddam (FOCUS by Dennis Atkins)
Courier Mail, 30-12-2006, Ed: 1 - First with the news, Pg: 038, 1060 words , FEATURES
This trial has been orchestrated with a murderous political intent SADDAM Hussein should not hang. His execution will be a brutal act of victors' justice that does not meet tests of fairness or democracy and puts another nail into the coffin of the failed US lead adventure in Iraq.
excepts:-
three issues are thrown up by the sentence:-
1. the case for international war crimes tribunal headed by independent jurists in the Hague to hear cases against Baathists was always the safest and surest way to get justice. This was the course of action backed by the European Union and eminent jurists.
The camp followers in the coalition for the willing simply went along with the Washington line.
The argument of taking any trials out of Iraq was couched in terms of fostering a domestic judicial system, but the real reason was that if Saddam and others were tried in Europe they would not be subject to the death penalty.....
the charge against Saddam that was found - and for which he will hang - concerned a failed assassination attempt in the Shiite village of Dujail in 1982. ... along with 7 others Saddam in accused of killing 148 Shiites after villagers conspired to assassinate him.
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the next charge to be heard involved operation Anfal in which as many as 180,000 Kurds allegedly died, mostly from poison gas. This charge has the potential to expose the chain of command in carrying out these heinous acts ...
2. the administration of Nouri al Maliki has no genuine interest in a govt of national unity. ....
They highjacked the trial process. The first judge, Rizgar Amin, resigned in protest at polotical pressure and the second judge, Abdullah al-Amiri, was sacked in september because he didnt toe the govt line. The appeals court decision and the death sentence were not announced by the justice but by Al-Maliki's national security adviser. - who simply confirmed the outcome predicted confidently by the Prime Minister weeks previously. .... the already rock bottom relations between the Shiite and Sunni Iraqis will sink even further, quite probably to irreparable depths.
3. the country of Iraq is breaking up with only one potentially sustainable way through if the country is held together. Out o the bloody ruis that years o0f civilwar will bring - a war that will be policed to an extent by the US or left to fester in its own juices - will come a Shi-ite strongman every bit as brutal and dictatorial as Saddam....
Meanwhile reports suggest an exodus from the country... professionals, academics, almost all the Christians ...
the reaction to the death penalty for Saddam has been either obscene or cowardly. The Bush administration was almost gleeful , grasping at the sentence as if it was justification for all that has happened.
Here in Australia, the govt chose to hide behind the festive season and say nothing. But when the sentence was first announced Prime Minister John Howard mouthed his opposition to the death penalty but said it was a matter for the Iraqi govt. He sought to make a virtue out of the court process , ignoring its shortcomings. "The real issue is that he was tried in an open transparent fashion and one of the great marks of democratic society is due process and the rule of law and this mass murderer was given due process" he said.
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all who cherish humanity should stand up against this death sentence. Opposition to the death penalty should not be divisble. The proud Iraqi people who are slowly being beaten down by the grinding of history do not deserve what's coming.
Once again, I have to agree with you.Julia said:I'm not sure why, but I feel a bit sick at hearing this. I realise it will make a lot of people happy, and probably also generate even more violence from his supporters, but I just find it hard to see how killing the killer makes everything even.
Not that I have any ideas about what would be better.
Julia
Happy said:Bull's back
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