A couple of us expressed some sympathy for Trish Johns, whereupon Calliope asserted that "she would have known what she was letting herself in for" and clearly had no compassion for her situation. I'm not so sure that when she married Johns she would necessarily have been able to predict his future behaviour. But I don't know. He could be right.
No, it doesn't mean that.It probably also means sticking up for your rights, which I suppose includes the right to behave badly.
Assertiveness is the direct and honest communication of your opinions, feelings, needs, and rights in a way that does not violate the personal rights of others. It involves standing up for your own rights, while acknowledging the rights of others, and working towards a win-win solution. Assertiveness is different from non-assertiveness and aggressiveness.
IMO they love the lifestyle so they turn a blind eye or try and forget about what there husbands/partners get up to.
Basically they dont want to miss out on the parties, the fast cars, nice houses and overseas holidays.
No, it doesn't mean that
Here is the Uni of Qld definition, since you're not happy with mine:
Living that life is costly when one can't afford it. Most footy players aren't paid that well, considering most of them won't see a lot of opportunity in retirement.
Amongst this thread, the concept of infidelity has been given little consideration.
A couple of us expressed some sympathy for Trish Johns, whereupon Calliope asserted that "she would have known what she was letting herself in for" and clearly had no compassion for her situation. I'm not so sure that when she married Johns she would necessarily have been able to predict his future behaviour. But I don't know. He could be right.
Then later, when someone else indicated a similar sympathy, and even included Johns himself as a subject of some sympathy, Bunyip was outraged that Mrs Johns could bring herself to stay with this unfaithful creep.
Marriages hold together and split up for all sorts of reasons. I expect in the case of the Johns' there could be some financial attractions attached to staying with him, plus I understand they have children. Outrage and self respect are very fine, but sometimes other considerations outweigh this righteousness.
Thinking about this led me to wonder how ASF members feel about infidelity in their own relationships?
I heard a comment on the radio this evening that "if it was just sex as it was in the Johns incident", it wouldn't really mean much. But if were a long term emotionally involved relationship, then it's a whole other story.
So how do you see this? What standards apply in your relationships?
Would you forgive infidelity? How would you re-establish trust once it has been lost? Do you see other aspects of a marriage or long term relationship as equally important, e.g. children or finances, even friends and social life?
There may be one or two who married these guys unaware of their real characters. I believe this occurred in the case of Andrew John's first wife who was a decent girl from a decent background. She divorced him when it became apparent he was beyond redemption.
Some women of course are attracted to men of bad character.
I am betting they arent even wise enough to realise that the heydays wont last forever! Or if they do, couldnt care less. And of course, the media always recycles them as experts too, dont they. Regardless of whether they can actually put two words together. The AFL is expert at doing that, I suspect Rugby is the same.
But let's make sure we distinguish between the two Rugby codes here.
Most of the former Rugby Union players who retain a relatively high profile in the media are articulate, intelligent men. A few who come to mind are Tim Horan, Andrew Slack, John Kirwin, Ben Darwin, Phil Kearns, Dan Crowley, Mark Ella, Nick Farr-Jones.
Compare these blokes to the former League player buffoons who regularly feature in the media as the voice of Rugby League....chalk and cheese.
Wallaby Greats to Fill Statesmen Roles
April 23, 2008 - 2:32pm
Story by: ARU
Seven Wallaby greats have accepted roles as Rugby Statesmen as the Australian Rugby Union today launched a rally cry for the game at all levels – Built By Rugby, Forged In Union.
Drawn from each decade since the Second World War, the Statesmen will make formal and informal appearances on behalf of the ARU this season with the game determined to embrace its past on the journey into the future.
The Statesmen are all former Wallabies’ captains:
Sir Nicholas Shehadie – Prop/second row, 30 Tests (1947-58), 3 Tests as captain
Dr John Solomon – Centre/five-eighth, 14 Tests (1949-1955), 8 Tests as captain
Ken Catchpole – Halfback, 27 Tests (1961-68), 13 Tests as captain
Mark Loane – No.8, 28 Tests (1973-82), 6 Tests as captain
Andrew Slack – Centre, 39 Tests (1978-87), 19 Tests as captain
Nick Farr-Jones – Halfback, 63 Tests (1984-93), 36 Tests as captain
John Eales – Second row, 86 Tests (1991-2001), 55 Tests as captain
ARU Managing Director and CEO John O’Neill said recognition and celebration of iconic figures that helped build Australian Rugby was vital to ensuring the game’s core values and traditions were maintained.
Yes, it would be very hard to find seven former league players you nominate as "statesmen" in the code.
Union players' wives often have eminent careers also.
You forget Kevin Rudd and Wayne Swan.
They were fearsome rugby league players in their day.
Real ear biters.
gg
This could open up an exciting new career for Mathew Johns as Rugby Leagues brothel liaison officer!
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Footballers who want to participate in group sex should be encouraged by their clubs to do so at legal brothels, a political party says.
The National Rugby League has been rocked over the past week by claims by various women that they took part in group sex with players.
A number of the incidents have prompted allegations of sexual assault.
"The NRL needs to set up a brothel liaison office and to conduct brothel information sessions with all players, including those who profess to be religious," party convenor with the Australian Sex Party Fiona Patten said.
There are more than 200 legal brothels and 6,000 sex workers in NSW.
Ms Patten said most teams have a local brothel that could be adopted as their own.
"(And) If players are away on tour, they could ring another local brothel... and arrange a service with a qualified sex worker for five or six players."
Good God.....now I've heard it all. It wouldn't even surprise me if the Rugby League hierarchy were to publicly come out in support of the idea.
Maybe club officials will negotiate a group booking discount for their players!!
This could open up an exciting new career for Mathew Johns as Rugby Leagues brothel liaison officer!
But then, why would players pay for something that's available to them free of charge?
Who the heck are the Australian Sex Party anyway....is there a political party by that name? I've never heard of them.
This in fact is quite a good idea.
Sport, especially contact sport is a substitute for war. Most soldiers down the ages have been working class lads and brothels have traditionally been provided for them. The officers usually rooted the captured gentry.
So if these working class lads are full of adrenaline and testosterone after a game , why not let them have a root or two in a brothel.
gg
You forget Kevin Rudd and Wayne Swan.
They were fearsome rugby league players in their day.
Real ear biters.
gg
Why can't these League players enjoy a normal sex life like anyone else without making animals of themselves?
Do they really need to use brothels, given that there seems to be a never-ending supply of women throwing themselves at them?
Why would they rent a book when they can use the library!
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