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What is more often occurring that not only substance is involved, but:

vehicle was unregistered and uninsured and the driver was unlicensed

How can you possibly have any form of compensation if driver with no assets is unlicensed, uninsured and vehicle unregistered?
 
What a joke! That kid should be castrated so he can't plant his seed. All we need is more people without a brain. Being drunk is not an excuse!
 
What is more often occurring that not only substance is involved, but:



How can you possibly have any form of compensation if driver with no assets is unlicensed, uninsured and vehicle unregistered?
This is the great advantage of the NZ Accident Compensation Commission.
Everyone pays a levy, much as we do here with Medicare levy, then when there's any sort of accident, medical costs and subsequent compensation are determined by a Board and paid for by the central fund. The lawyers here don't want it, of course. Just imagine the fees they would miss out on.
 
How can you possibly have any form of compensation if driver with no assets is unlicensed, uninsured and vehicle unregistered?

Maybe you can sue the Nominal Defendant to gain compensation. But probably not as the driver/vehicle has been identified.

See link below for NSW

http://www.maa.nsw.gov.au/default.aspx?MenuID=111

I'm pretty sure that there is similar legislation on other states.

Regards
 
The vehicle may well have been insured and registered however it is a condition of both of these systems that the driver be licensed and sober, It is an automatic thing that if you are unlicensed or drunk then the vehicle is automatically uninsured and unregistered. in fact I think if you are drunk then you may automatically be unlicensed as well. I do hope the police can confiscate the car

There was a time when the juvenile driver would have found himself in the navy, his parents obviously can't control him and he needs discipline, but we don't do that anymore

Happyjack
 
What is more often occurring that not only substance is involved, but:



How can you possibly have any form of compensation if driver with no assets is unlicensed, uninsured and vehicle unregistered?


I'm assuming you're refering to the driver being the victim in this instance.

That's usually how the law sees it.

:rolleyes
 


What worries me most is this bit -

and was driving without a licence.

In other words, law is far law abiding people.

What are they going to do? They will take his license away, which he did not have in a first place for several years.
If car was stolen, are they going to pancake it, or confiscate it?

What is going to stop him driving without license?
- At least I think I know an answer to this question.
 

Not all 28,000 don’t know how to drive, but don’t deserve to be on our roads, but proof that as said above, law is only for those who obey it.
 
How can you possibly have any form of compensation if driver with no assets is unlicensed, uninsured and vehicle unregistered?
In Tas at least I'm pretty sure the MAIB (Motor Accidents Insurance Board) would pay medical costs, loss of income etc to a third party whether or not the vehicle that caused it was registered and the driver licensed. But if no rego then they won't pay for the driver / owner's injuries. That's my understanding at least.
 
Highly unlikely we've heard the end of this one yet..
The bloke screeches to a halt in front of numerous cyclists (including Olympians training) - who crash into him.
Allegedly someone calls out to him to stay because so many are hurt and the cops have been called.
He takes off - leaves the scene of a crime/accident/ whatever - allegedly he and his mate think its funny.
Someone has the sense to copy his number plate..
Now he's being "interviewed".

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/05/09/2240072.htm

so his car stalls - and he has to screech to a halt? (at least) half in their lane? then takes off from scene? - sounds like a smartass conman to me

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/05/09/2239961.htm
 
Dont forget 2020 he aint been charged after being interviewed by the police,not being there its hard to comment as we did not see what happened.

Now myself being a b-double driver try to give cyclists as much room as i can as when i pass them im always worried about them getting sucked in between my trailers,saturday morning is when they hit the roads in big numbers so i try to get back to the yard early to avoid the traffic.

2 things cyclists must do.stay 2 abreast in the fog line & get some brighter clothing & night lights.i dont really worry about them not paying rego etc,they must stay off the road away from the big bangers...tb
 
Dont forget 2020 he aint been charged after being interviewed by the police,not being there its hard to comment as we did not see what happened.

True , but it sounds like there's 50 witnesses to say his version is total fabrication - possible class action etc

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/cyclists-dispute-drivers-account/2008/05/09/1210131264145.html

 


Maybe brain injured, maybe just got “good advice”.

Hope they keep an eye on him and possible miraculous recovery later on.
 
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True , but it sounds like there's 50 witnesses to say his version is total fabrication - possible class action etc

"Sounds like" doesnt mean proof...just remember hes only been charged with leaving the scene of an accident...

bike riders are a very big hazard to all drivers,if it wasnt a dedicated bike lane then they shouldnt be riding on that road...

the breakdown lane is not for bikes unless stated,southern cross drive in morning peak hour...brain dead action......tb
 
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..brain dead action......tb



When I am on the road on my pushbike I am mindful of cars and I never execute my right to be on the road and take good part of whole lane.

It is probably because as car driver I see how it looks from the other side of windscreen.

I have a lot of bad memories how pushbike riders behave on the road; sometimes I think they are deliberately taking whole lane just because they can, not to mention that traffic lights don’t apply to many of them.
 
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Heres what i said before..

You got 2 types of bike riders,the pusbiker who rides his bike & the you got the pros in this accident,who think they can ride 3 abreast in peak hour taking up a lane.....not on,it is these riders you will find that are getting run over more than the guy who goes for a pedal...

it dont matter if you are a wannabe olympian,sydney peak hour is not the place...let me tell you,these riders cause alot of prangs when you have to use the next lane(sorry car in that lane wannabees need this lane..!)tb
 


There are more and more incident when there is driver without license often in unregistered and uninsured car and we (legal system) seem to be out of our wits what to do with it.

I see it this way if somebody cannot obey our law we lock him or her up so they cannot break it.

Fair and simple and of course the usual - work in locker to pay for their keep.
And no tax payer funded sex change while there either.
 
Re: BIKE RIDERS IN PEAK HOUR BREAKDOWN LANE

tigerboi;297499bike riders are a very big hazard to all drivers said:
if it wasnt a dedicated bike lane then they shouldnt be riding on that road[/B]...
Correct that they shouldn't be riding in a breakdown lane. But if there's no bike lane then the proper place for them to be riding is to take up one complete traffic lane. Those behind need to either travel at the same speed as the bike or overtake safely in another lane just as they would overtake a car or other vehicle. If they can not overtake safely then don't overtake.

I can follow the argument about cyclists not paying rego etc but I must point out that much the same applies to SUV's etc as well. They're paying rego, but they're not paying twice as much as a small car despite taking up twice as much space on the road etc. So cyclists aren't the only ones getting a subsidy.
 
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While I agree with you, I think the real problem is not subsidy but the speed.

Bikes are pushing it to keep 50 k/hour and if there is one lane, big traffic, drivers have no room to pass safely, they start to speculate – shouldn’t bikes be more courteous and give away their right to clog the full lane.

I have always more time than I need to reach the destination as I give myself bit of margin of safety for traffic, some road obstructions and even time to stop and answer call of nature if I have to.

But many drivers have no luxury or foresight to do it this way and being always too late additional -unfair obstacle- in their opinion makes them aggressive to the point of taking excessive risk, injuring or effectively murdering pushbike rider/s.

I personally as push bike rider never execute my right of lane hogging, just cannot bring myself to do it.
 
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as i pointed out previously bike riders are dangerous especially on a saturday morning...today 1 rider killed on the m4...

where do you get the idea that bike riders are allowed to take up one lane & cause absolute chaos to traffic???

bike riders do not have the right to disrupt the other drivers...

like i said happened...bike riders out on saturday mornings thinking they are allowed to take up a lane...bang

got no problem sharing the road as a professional driver however cars & trucks have priority...

bike riders be told...metro highways are not training grounds...tb
 
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