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Porper said:Bullmarket, I am not saying set the stop at break even and to leave it there, that would be irresponsible to the extreme.What I am saying is once this is done, we are in a risk free trade, then it is up to us to manage the price action as we feel fit, whether that be a trailing stop, count back or whatever.
As for taking profits, well I don't consider myself an expert,I get it wrong as often as I get it right.If anybody says they consistently get out near the top, I would love to talk to them and find their method, or call them a wee fibber !!
Anyway, must go and peel the spuds and sprouts or Mrs Porper will peel me
So if you or Snake don't understand or agree with what I was saying then I don't have a problem with that simply because others have at least understood and whether they agree or not is entirely up to them. I just gave my view on paper losses and a supporting example.
bullmarket said:Hi snake
I'm not convinced you are telling the truth when you say you don't know what a paper loss is
have a pleasant evening and I'll see you in the swamp
bullmarket
Going on a bit, often written puts are described as having unlimited risk. Therefore straight shares, must also have unlimited risk. (It's not actually unlimited because you can't go past zero, but it is unquantifyable)
This is why folks use stops. Put writers can also use stops.
Therefore straight shares, must also have unlimited risk. (It's not actually unlimited because you can't go past zero, but it is unquantifyable)
Going on a bit, often written puts are described as having unlimited risk.
This is why folks use stops. Put writers can also use stops.
100% negative outcome = No Risk
100% positive outcome = No Risk
Known outcome = No Risk
This nonsense appeared on pg1.
This really demonstrates the confusion, misinformation, or plain lack of cognitive analysis performed.
tech/a said:Ah Duc.
Excellent some understanding of RISK
You may have to use some examples which are easy for all to follow.
Stevo's put in some intesresting stuff as well.
Hopefully I'll have some time to get "involved" soon enough.
100% negative outcome = No Risk
100% positive outcome = No Risk
You are equating Risk with money.
In these instances Risk alone is equated.
You have 2 knowns each resulting in zero risk.
If you wish to relate that back to money then entering a trade with a known risk of 100% loss would not be equated as taking any risk what so ever,youll have NO risk of making any profit yet 100% guarentee of making a loss.
It all seems pointless as in the markets we risk money - ultimately, unless something has changed and no one told me about it. So a discussion on that is what I thought the thread was for. If it is textbook definitions and regurgitation then I have extracted myself form the discussion. I get the gist of Wayne`s post to see how ridiculous it has become - not Wayne but the hyperbole!
All from the alchemy of finance too!
I think I'll research info on 'risk' from hereon on the www where for me personally it will be more relevant and meaningful.
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