Julia
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Completely agree. Which makes it even more important to avoid the obvious risks.So far as investing is concerned, the same principles apply. There is always something which can go wrong that you won't have foreseen and/or won't have dealt with. There is no such thing as zero risk.
Yes, all relevant points.Smurf makes a very pertinent point regarding the knock on effects of particular events.
I think this is far more important now because
1) Everything is so interconnected
2) Modern business techniques have emphasized just in time practices which mean that any hold up will cause immediate problems
3) Modern business practice (again) has reduced the amount of redundancy and thus resilience in our economic systems.
basilio, could you perhaps be a bit more specific about how you see the above in terms of Australia? As I understand what happened here, yes the government offered the guarantee, for which the banks paid significant fees.In a swift united effort all the major economies threw trllions of dollars at the banks to keep the system operational. We breathed a sigh of relief when we seemed to dodge the bullet.
So do you think it would have been more useful in the longer term to let more banks/institutions fail during GFC1?Three years later it is now countries not banks that are threatening to drown and there appears no plausible way to keep the current financial systems operating.
All good questions. Let's hope there is some planning in place.This has to be the biggest risk we face but what can be done on an individual level ? So what steps are governments preparing to cope with a disorderly default ? And should we be told about these steps to keep up public confidence ?
I used to lament the fact that the energy industry now operates with far less margin for things to go wrong before the lights go out than it used to. It concerned me somewhat about the economic damage which would result from a major failure.2) Modern business techniques have emphasized just in time practices which mean that any hold up will cause immediate problems
3) Modern business practice (again) has reduced the amount of redundancy and thus resilience in our economic systems.
The physical world is just as interconnected as the financial world these days. If something big enough falls over, a lot of others will follow.
I've only come across this thread this morning.On the other hand, if I had enough capital to put it in the bank and just live off the interest and have it grow each year then I wouldn't risk my capital elsewhere. Or to simplify, if I had more than enough then I would not need to or want to invest in anything other than 100% Government Guaranteed term deposits or other similar safe investments.
As regards global financial threats, I take a rather sanguine (stoic?) approach:
No matter how irrational I "know" all those international eggspurts are, I am one in 7 Billion; my chances of winning every Powerball jackpot are far greater than the odds of being able to influence the Fed or ECB, let alone governments of Greece or Italy. So I enjoy the ability to spend money while I can; I try to keep a safe balance of funds that will get me through a 1930's style crisis. But I rely on my ability to find a Plan B based on the particulars when they're known. No use fretting about what may be if...
A real example that I know about (yes it's energy related...I'm glad that Smurf was able to verify what I have observed indirectly with regard to the dangerously insecure situation of almost all business operations.
Just on that - diesel shortages caused by peak usage by the farm sector are not new, and reinforce your post.If this is how it works these days with things like electricity and diesel fuel, then I'd be surprised if any other important industry had much of a buffer in case of disruption.
If this is how it works these days with things like electricity and diesel fuel, then I'd be surprised if any other important industry had much of a buffer in case of disruption. Smurf 1976
The global supply chain: So very fragile
December 12, 2011: 11:21 AM ET
Manufacturers have spent years building low-cost global supply chains. Natural disasters are showing them just how delicate those networks really are.
By Bill Powell, editor-at-large
FORTUNE -- The image to the right is almost surreal: It shows part of a Honda auto factory in central Thailand, one of the largest in Southeast Asia, swamped under 15 feet of water, brand-new cars floating in the currents. The devastating November flooding in Thailand, which killed more than 600 people, also knocked out some of Honda's key suppliers, including electronics component maker Rohm & Co., forcing production delays in plants as far away as Ohio.
The Thailand floods alone would test any company's operational prowess; now consider that much of the auto industry and many technology companies are still recovering from the earthquake and tsunami that tore through north-central Japan in March, shutting down dozens of contractors and subcontractors that supply everything from glass to test parts.
And that is how people die. The risk doesn't disappear after an assessment, it is still there. How anyone could assess the road surface and flow rate across the flooding section is a job for superman.For example an individual can to taught how to accurately asses the risk of driving a vehicle across a flooded road and then correctly drive a vehicle thru flood water after making an assessment that it is indeed possible to do so safely...after you do this a few times it just gets easier and easier.
And that is how people die. The risk doesn't disappear after an assessment, it is still there. How anyone could assess the road surface and flow rate across the flooding section is a job for superman.
Would the outcome differ relative to assessment?Ok so your not comfortable with your ability to asses the risk of a flooded roadway crossing, so for you a flooded road = extreme risk do not cross....a person that is familiar with that particular section of road and with experience of other flooded roadway crossings may come up with a totally different assessment than you.
Would the outcome differ relative to assessment?
+1. I completely agree with your thoughts, particularly with respect to not risking your home, necessitating a return to the grind of work.I am very conservative with my investments because I if I lose money I will have to leave the house and go to work 9-5 *shudder*.
I ride my bike like a complete idiot because it is fun and I enjoy taking risks like that. I have been riding with the brakes functioning at only 10% until my friend forced me to let him fix them. Although as I get older I take fewer personal risks, the body does not bounce back like it used to.
There is something very backwards in this think I guess but I just don't care. I would rather participate in some mildly risky behaviours to get a small thrill than to risk my money and have to be tied to the mundane life of working hard for the next 20 years.
+1. I completely agree with your thoughts, particularly with respect to not risking your home, necessitating a return to the grind of work.
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