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RIN - Rinker Group


Rinker do seem to suffer from a " trailing analysts syndrome " and they may well change their minds a short distance down the line. After the Fed's remarks on new property building and demand, in the States, there isn't really all that much to go for and RIN may well trade sideways until Bernanke speaks again on the subject.
 
3 veiws of a secret said:
....... Seems like their's action on this stock ie upward and onward, now that it has reached it's lows. Shall trade RIN closely today.
Adios

....errrr "Loose lips, sink ships" I think I stuffed this one up for today.Emotional greed got the upper handle here .Still don't think its a monkey on my shoulders at these prices ! :twak:
 
I understand that RIN went XC (not too sure what that means) in the last few days. I understand that might be some kind of special payment back to shareholder. Can anyone let me know if new dividend or special shareholder return are due to happen soon and if yes when should they be credited ?

Cheers
 
Type Cents per share =Final 64.00
Franked %= 22
Ex Dividend Date =05 Jun, 06

Dividend Pay Date =04 Jul, 06

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Fab

This refers to a capital return to shareholders of 50 cents per share.
From memory I think around 25 July.

Julia
 
Thanks Julia ,

I have currently 700 RIN shares does that mean I can expect $350 to be paid to me on the 25/07 as part of this capital return ?
I also understand they are planning a share buy back soon, can anyone explain me the benefit of a share buy back as my understanding is most of the time this is done at a price below market price ?

Thanks for your help
 
Fab, 25 july is the record date for the capital return. it will be paid to you on the 17 august.

http://www.rinker.com.au/InvestorRelations/EventCalendar/



rinker opted on this capital return for several reasons:

this was taken from the ATO ruling of the capital return.
http://law.ato.gov.au/atolaw/print.htm?DocID=CLR/CR200649/NAT/ATO/00001

cheers,
scsl
 
Scsl,

Thanks very much for your feedback this is exactly what I was after. Even though RIN has been going down heavily recently I am very pleased at all the money they have been paying out in the last couple of months. Including the payment due on the 17/08/06 I will have received $830 for 700 shares . Not bad at all for shares that were purchased 10 years ago at $4.50
 
what do you mean 10 years ago? from memory, RIN started trading in 2003. did you somehow get your RIN shares from holding CSR shares, which you may have bought 10 years ago? ...just curious thats all
 
I had CSR shares that got split few years ago into CSR and RIN. So far the return on them has been very good. Not sure if it will continue so.
 
RIN continue down and may test the $13 level shortly - the Board of Directors must be a little worried, and the rapid decline, in share price, appears to have caught them on the hop.
 
noirua said:
RIN continue down and may test the $13 level shortly - the Board of Directors must be a little worried, and the rapid decline, in share price, appears to have caught them on the hop.

I think I'm not the only person caught in this 3 legged race to climb on board, looks like this one is going lower, then 13 bucks. When it reached 13.50 with abt 120K shares on offer I gulped,when snapped up in seconds!
 
While the share price looks like it will go lower, it's worth remembering that only residential building has slowed. Non-residential building has not slowed & it's unlikely that profits for this financial year will drop anywhere near as much as the sp
 
Rinker have moved up with the sector, in the States, and providing Uncle Sam continues to head North, we will not have the dead cat bounce theory thrown in our faces.
 
noirua said:
Rinker ...... providing Uncle Sam continues to head North, we will not have the dead cat bounce theory thrown in our faces.

I do agree with you (Noirua)......I just felt peeved I read the lows incorrectly and entered a few days too early ,but at least I'm on the magic bus,RIN & GTP,have been speculative buys for me ,but more so with GTP.Both cheap as chips ,just wish I had more bars of gold to auction.
Geeeeee RIN $13.09 yesterday,tell me its either a bargain or a give away!
 

they lowered forecasts again and i still dont knwo why dividend is so low compared to EPS % wise, hidden capex costs maybe?

Earnings and Dividends Forecast (cents per share)
2006 2007 2008 2009
EPS 106.7 123.4 132.4 138.6
DPS 78.0 45.0 46.5 50.4

thx

MS
 
RIN is now fairly valued based on the last 4 years earnings.

And with growth of about 16% p.a. up to now it would be cheap if you did not look foward.

The chart may be a little misleading as it has recently paid a 64 cent dividend, so you astrologers may be reading it a bit incorrectly.

They look after investors with an excellent dividend policy of paying back 35% to shareholders, and they're implementing a buy-back which looks legit and fair and in the shareholders interest.

I'd say they are a good longterm buy now at under $13. Infact I may get me some today at $12.95. Although I will wait and hope for further drops!
 


You have to look at the derivative, ie 16% pa is current velocity only

but if you look at the forecasts, its slowing down

Earnings and Dividends Forecast (cents per share)
2006 2007 2008 2009
EPS 106.7 123.4 132.4 138.6
DPS 78.0 45.0 46.5 50.4

138.6/132.4 = 1.0468 = 4.7% growth

thx

MS
 



Forecasts are just that, forecasts = predictions. Not facts!

Any analyst who thinks he can predict what will happen exactly to RIN between 2008 and 2009 is dreaming!

Some Dow and Nasdaq companies are now refusing to release future earnings 'predictions' becuase of this very problem, analysts and investors take them, too seriously. It is like a football expert predicting who will win the NRL next year - they may be experts, in the know, and smart (unlikely) but they can not predict what will happen in the future. No-one can. My guess and your guess of 2009 earnings will eb as good as anyones. Cause it is undetermined and purely speculative what will happen in the future.

However these predictions and the profit downgrade have been factored into the price already.

RIN at $12.95 is a prudent buy and hold investment I would think based on known results.
 
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