Mate, "tragi-comic" is the kind of word someone uses when they're straining to sound intellectual. Give that a rest.
As for Hitler:
National Socialist Workers Party.
He was a socialist. Socialists are leftists. Hitler's policies were often identical to Stalin.
A video you badly need to watch but won't:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psp8gJxxfdQ
Most relevant parts start at 2 mins 30. No one who watches this will think Hitler was on the right any more & we can put that to bed.
Sorry to offend the "stay on topic" nazis. (How about that, a conversation which meanders onto other related things! Boo hiss.)
I thought you could read - Faith is the confident belief or trust in the truth or trustworthiness of a person, concept or thing.[1][2] The English word is thought to date from 1200–50, from the Latin fidem or fidēs, meaning trust, derived from the verb fīdere, to trust.
Atheism is a "thing" Get that? Or perhaps you're a little too dim. But keep trying anyway.
Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, the Vatican's secretary of state, added fresh fuel to the paedophile priests scandal by saying on a visit to Chile yesterday that there was a stronger link between paedophilia and homosexuality than with celibacy.
I thought you could read - Faith is the confident belief or trust in the truth or trustworthiness of a person, concept or thing.[1][2] The English word is thought to date from 1200–50, from the Latin fidem or fidēs, meaning trust, derived from the verb fīdere, to trust.
Atheism is a "thing" Get that? Or perhaps you're a little too dim. But keep trying anyway.
I don't object to atheism. I object to militant atheism.
As for not answering your questions, people aren't doing me the courtesy of answering my questions or my points, other than to deliberately distort them. So why should I bend over backwards and play nice for you guys?
I think it is obvious who the dim ones are in this debate. Your concept that you have to have faith in order to have no faith is ridiculous. You should stay out of debates where you are so completely outclassed. You're a pushover.
So i was wondering if i was the only person who thought the term "militant Atheism" was a little over the top and silly...turns out im not alone in thinking its a little made up and irrelevant....Google search results below.
Results 1 - 10 of about 101,000 for militant Atheism
Results 1 - 10 of about 217,000 for militant Hinduism
Results 1 - 10 of about 996,000 for militant Islam
Results 1 - 10 of about 2,600,000 for militant Christianity
However this is way off the topic and I think that may be the idea of some posters so that we will not continue to question the ethics of the Papacy
Yep! I think that is the plan Explod. So brainwashed are they that they can't conceive of their infallible pope doing something wrong, so they throw all these red herrings about to deflect us on to a different course.
And this proves what exactly?
Yes the three Papal apologists, Atlas, Fishbulb and Tink have done everything they can to try to derail this debate. No doubt they feel very protective about their religion. But this thread is not about religion or Catholics or faith or Atheism.
It is about whether the Pope should be taught a salutary lesson over his apparent condoning of his pederast priests nasty behaviour. I am sure the majority of decent priests would like to get rid of this pall hanging over their heads. The ball is in the Pope's court. If he wanted to he could fix the mess immediately.
If nothing else it proves that militant Christianity is about 2600 times the issue that militant atheism is...and that militant Christianity is about 2600 times as written about, worried about, and thought about.
Amazing even compared to Islam, with militant Christianity getting more than twice as many page hits..after 9/11 Osama and 2 wars, all in the internet age and yet there's more than twice as much material available on the net about militant Christianity than there is about militant Islam.
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,600,000 for stephen Hawking
Results 1 - 10 of about 47,900,000 for Britney Spears
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,600,000 for stephen Hawking
Results 1 - 10 of about 47,900,000 for Britney Spears
As for the molestation nonsense:
The priesthood is being cast as the refuge of pederasts.
In fact, priests seem to abuse children at the same rate as everyone else.[/SIZE]
:dunno: Lets see, Steven hawking, super smart but not exactly good to look at, not a self promoter or a multi million dollar industry.
Britney, good to look at, infamous, dumb, a self promoter and a multi million dollar money spinner with dozens of photos on the net exposing her privates during her break down.
Not quite in the same league as the subject at hand...lets try that and see what we get.
Results 1 - 10 of about 61,700 for sexual abuse Richard Dawkins
Results 1 - 10 of about 252,000 for sexual abuse atheists
Results 1 - 10 of about 2,180,000 for sexual abuse priests
Results 1 - 10 of about 3,020,000 for sexual abuse catholic church
Results 1 - 10 of about 4,680,000 for sexual abuse church
This thread has devolved into timewasting. Tink and Fishbulb are clearly just baiting with their meaningless one or two liners, they probably don't even believe their side of the argument, and just enjoy winding people up. As for Atlas - it's clear he isn't going change his views no matter how much logic or evidence is piled up against them.
I think explod, So_Cynical, Calliope and others should feel good that they've made their points so well and thoroughly, and move onto other threads. No one is going to read this thread and be convinced by Atlas, Tink etc. unless they're already a member of the crazy camp.
It's ok to let the other side have the last word - if that word is meaningless piffle.
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