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Timmy said:
Actually,thinking about it, I don't think its necessary to admit to any agenda to bring someone to trial for raping children (or killing and maiming) ... the agenda Robertson and Dawkins have is irrelevant, it is enough that this sort of crime be prosecuted.
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Yes, agreed absolutely. The suggestion of a personal agenda other than simply the rightness of charging anyone who abused children is missing the point.

SmellyTerror said:
You think anarchy... is far RIGHT.

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You're taking the piss now, aren't you? I'm being trolled. Christ, my word count is going towards your score at Something Awful or 4Chan, isn't it?

God, you really had me going there, but you just went too far at the end. I should have seen it right from "Hitler is a lefty atheist". Athiest is bad, but lefty too? Nah, I'm an idiot to have fallen for it. No-one sucked up cold-war anti-commie propaganda to the extent you've pretended to. "Freedom is right wing". Hahahaha! I'll have to use that one in my sig.

/sigh
I'd better go do some work. Coming onto forums and being troll-food is clearly not my talent.
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Oh, I don't know. You have certainly provided many of us with much amusement. Not to mention the perfectly logical points you've made.

Timmy said:
Maybe the political will does not exist to arrest the Pope? Hence private individuals take up the challenge.
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Yes. The power of the Catholic Church is immense, along with the influence bought by their considerable wealth.
 
Stats of pedophiles, shows it is greater % wise in the greater community than in the Catholic church.

Catholic church is decentralized and centralized. One of the biggest and wealthiest institutes ... yes ... provides help to all countries ... yes.

I have been on the front line of the help it provides, if you have not or been a receiver then perhaps you may have doubts.

Same goes for the Salvation Army.

The Catholic church will even fund and create orphanages in Muslim countries, with no reference to Christianity through any related books or related teaching.

This whole attack on Catholic, is pathetic. No ads on TV, no hard sell, no brain washing. Should we appear more susceptible ?
 
weird said:
Stats of pedophiles, shows it is greater % wise in the greater community than in the Catholic church.
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Could that be because the Catholic Church has been hiding its pedophiles and demanding silence of their victims for decades so stats related to it are of course going to be very much understated?
 
bellenuit said:
Could that be because the Catholic Church has been hiding its pedophiles and demanding silence of their victims for decades so stats related to it are of course going to be very much understated?
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Dunno, reasonable point, I have always been an avid crime follower, I believe any sex related crimes have always been under reported.

I hope in the future that kids will be educated more in the future to 'BOTH' go to the police and the principle. Any reports like this, then the child should be immediately removed from the school, if the teacher isn't.
 
Sorry, missed the most important group, parents ... which are ahead of police and principle.

Feel really sorry to any child abused.

These kids or young or more mature adults need to know that it is wrong for what others did to you.

And if you can come forward, to either Police, Social Workers, Psychologists, Psychiatrists, Doctors, Parents, friends or anyone else I am sure they will support you, if not then find someone that does ... someone will.
 
weird said:
Stats of pedophiles, shows it is greater % wise in the greater community than in the Catholic church.

Catholic church is decentralized and centralized. One of the biggest and wealthiest institutes ... yes ... provides help to all countries ... yes.

I have been on the front line of the help it provides, if you have not or been a receiver then perhaps you may have doubts.

Same goes for the Salvation Army.

The Catholic church will even fund and create orphanages in Muslim countries, with no reference to Christianity through any related books or related teaching.

This whole attack on Catholic, is pathetic. No ads on TV, no hard sell, no brain washing. Should we appear more susceptible ?
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Yep good post. My daughter and her friend spent the morning volunteering at the Sacred Heart Mission which was through the Church, feeding more than 450 homeless people.

What has Dawkins done for Humanity, apart from attack the Pope and write books.
 
Tink said:
Yep good post. My daughter and her friend spent the morning volunteering at the Sacred Heart Mission which was through the Church, feeding more than 450 homeless people.

What has Dawkins done for Humanity, apart from attack the Pope and write books.
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Even a basic google search would have turned up http://richarddawkinsfoundation.org/ a charitable foundation that provides aid to those in need.
 
weird said:
Stats of pedophiles, shows it is greater % wise in the greater community than in the Catholic church.

Catholic church is decentralized and centralized. One of the biggest and wealthiest institutes ... yes ... provides help to all countries ... yes.

I have been on the front line of the help it provides, if you have not or been a receiver then perhaps you may have doubts.

Same goes for the Salvation Army.

The Catholic church will even fund and create orphanages in Muslim countries, with no reference to Christianity through any related books or related teaching.

This whole attack on Catholic, is pathetic. No ads on TV, no hard sell, no brain washing. Should we appear more susceptible ?
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Most of the criticism on this forum is not so much an attack on the Catholic church overall, but rather a condemnation of the disgusting priests who sexually molest children, and the equally disgusting members of the church hierarchy who protect these sub-human animals and give them the opportunity of repeating their crimes.
 
Tink said:
Aaah well there you go - hope you're all giving your donations ;)
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All people are born instinctively good and remain so with nurture. However we are all different and that is where it breaks down. We need to tolerate all sides and try to encourage the good.

So Athiest or Christian, those active and true to their causes are good. But I still hate Fairy tales and lies to children, when they grow up they too then think it is ok to lie.

The Papacy does not seem to be and that is the real issue here.
 
explod said:
All people are born instinctively good and remain so with nurture. However we are all different and that is where it breaks down. We need to tolerate all sides and try to encourage the good.
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ALL people are born instinctively good?? Read about biological psychopaths.
 
weird said:
The Catholic church will even fund and create orphanages in Muslim countries, with no reference to Christianity through any related books or related teaching.
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That is weird indeed, when there are so many impoverished Catholics in Africa and South America. They should divert their charity from the Muslims to more worthy causes, such as promoting contraception in impoverished Catholic communities.
 
Atlas79 said:
ALL people are born instinctively good?? Read about biological psychopaths.
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Biological faults can be identified and corrected with the proper treatment and care = nurture. The nature of the biological fault cannot be changed but the behaviour within the social context can be changed. Religion has done it in the past with subconscious imprinting through repitition, ie the chant in the Rosary.

And again Atlas, this has nothing to do with the misdeads of the Papacy
 
explod said:
Biological faults can be identified and corrected with the proper treatment and care = nurture. The nature of the biological fault cannot be changed but the behaviour within the social context can be changed. Religion has done it in the past with subconscious imprinting through repitition, ie the chant in the Rosary.

And again Atlas, this has nothing to do with the misdeads of the Papacy
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You brought it up by spouting off in ignorance. "All people are born good" is factually incorrect. Like it, hate it, whatever, there's no need for opinion on it, that's the fact.

Maybe you should share you cure for psychopathy with the relevant authorities? They'd be delighted to hear from you I'm sure.
 
explod said:
And again Atlas, this has nothing to do with the misdeads of the Papacy
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Indeed!

Sex Crimes and the Vatican

A secret document which sets out a procedure for dealing with child sex abuse scandals within the Catholic Church is examined by Panorama. Crimen Sollicitationis was enforced for 20 years by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger before he became the Pope. It instructs bishops on how to deal with allegations of child abuse against priests and has been seen by few outsiders. Critics say the document has been used to evade prosecution for sex crimes. It instructs them how to deal with priests who solicit sex from the confessional. It also deals with "any obscene external act ... with youths of either sex." It imposes an oath of secrecy on the child victim, the priest dealing with the allegation and any witnesses. Breaking that oath means excommunication from the Catholic Church.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3335354490744010763#
 
During the Iran / Iraq war, Iranians sent their kids barefoot off ahead of the soldiers to search for mines. With their feet.

Has any authority from Iran ever visited the UK? If so, has Dawkins ever tried to "arrest" them?

Don't seem to recall it.
 
Tink said:
Aaah well there you go - hope you're all giving your donations ;)
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LMAO

vatican_opulence.jpg
 
Atlas79 said:
During the Iran / Iraq war, Iranians sent their kids barefoot off ahead of the soldiers to search for mines. With their feet.

Has any authority from Iran ever visited the UK? If so, has Dawkins ever tried to "arrest" them?

Don't seem to recall it.
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Irianians are a repressed people with little opportunities to proper education, this is not the case with the Papacy
 
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