Religious leader condemns RAPE

Taurisk said:

The rape story was a recent court case in Pakistan, for all to see, on the news, and every so often the story of dishonoured brothers, fathers or husbands pop up who have killed a close female relative for their honour's sake - nice, eh?

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I don't see any relation to some maniac killing someone for their honour & how its related to Islam? if you predict that because he's in Pakistan then you should differentiate between "culture" & "Reliegon". No releigon in the world will tell anyone to kill anyone else....I thought you'd figured that one out already

Taurisk said:

I do not believe that God is so interested in our fates that he goes and tells us down to the last detail what to do. All our holy books, whether it's the Bible or the Koran, are either historical records and are written down by people, poets and wonderful writers one and all, who claim they've had revelations, funnily enough they were mostly men, who seem to have a vast need to be important.

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Again, whether you're a believer of the existance of god or not, its totally your choice. But don't blame others for having different beliefs to you!

Taurisk said:

You pay more tax than my whole street???? You must be important!! I shall prostrate myself!
BTW I also still pay a fair amount of tax, and have all my life! and
I hope your head dress - against the wearing of which in public I have absolutely no objection to - is as becoming as your icon,
it's the face I'm not sure about, hmmmm - too much aggression.

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You told me before to try to integerate & I'm showing you a proof that we contribute to the democratic system & we're not just users to the system & plenty others do as well & vote like normal Australians.

What's wrong with my picture?? this is a pharoah's picture ....yes... they were NOT muslims & they were covering their hair may be pharoahs shouldn't be allowed in Australia.

Come on mate - a bit of a sense of humour is a good for the heart!

I knew the Egyptians pharaos names by heart when I was 14 years old.
which one is he?

Taurisk

IGO4IT said:

We sit down & laugh when we see how many people are scared of what we know to be the very little minority extremists.

But we blame the govt mainly for funding these guys & NOT monitoring thier activities, .... & any guy that could grow a beard comes to be a leader without anyone knowing exactly where they came from

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Igo, are you saying that extremist groups would starve on the vine if it weren't for govt funding? Being a bit optimistic there I think

At the risk of offending my new friend Bob, I also pay more tax than the rest of the street, but then again, Im the only honest one, and most of my neighbours are tax dodgers.

Taurisk said:

Come on mate - a bit of a sense of humour is a good for the heart!

I knew the Egyptians pharaos names by heart when I was 14 years old.
which one is he?

Taurisk

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Apparaently, or at least that's what was written next to the picture , it's Ramsis.

I love Pharonic civilisations & actually love reading about both Pharoahs & Romans, amazing steps these guys took in an era where nothing was given to them at all, they had to invent it all from scratch.

Cheers,

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Igo, are you saying that extremist groups would starve on the vine if it weren't for govt funding? Being a bit optimistic there I think

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At least, it will filter the number of these funny groups to only those who can afford to finance themselves, which in theory shouldn't be many at all.

Believe it or not, these guys would be out getting university degrees & learning trades & most likely be useful people if they had no other choice & govt funding for these organisations was monitored or based on the viability of their programs rather than just to distribute an allocated budget to whom should apply for a program to show tax payers than govt is commited in supported minorities & multiple reliegons.

What's more important than cutting funding is actually REGULATING the religious community programs, we need regulations to disallow anyone to teach our juniors all these crazy ideas regardless of reliegon. There must be a a regulatory body which has the power to license those in all these community programs & monitor their activities regularly.......same like Dept of fair trading which license electricians, carpenters or any proffession..... if these trades people fail to comply with certain quality requirements within their proffession then they lose their license to operate.

cheers,

Igoforit is right about the removal of welfare to a degree... The fact I couldn't get Centerlink student payments, given my circumstances, made me want to learn about making money. I read Rich Dad Poor Dad and then I got into the stockmarket... Having Frustration can be a positive energy for development...

The reality is people don't appreciate anything that comes easy to them and only what they earned...

IGO4IT said:

Apparaently, or at least that's what was written next to the picture , it's Ramsis.

I love Pharonic civilisations & actually love reading about both Pharoahs & Romans, amazing steps these guys took in an era where nothing was given to them at all, they had to invent it all from scratch.

Cheers,

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Hi IGO

Thanks for that - although I doubt anyone knows what Ramses really looked like, so it's a bit of an invention - I suspect the pharaos and their queens were quite serene creatures. My interest began when I began visiting an art museum in Vienna, as a young teenager and I was fascinated by the artefacts of that old civilisation. They've got a great Egyptian collection at the 'Kunsthistorische Museum; and the rooms were decorated by the young Gustav Klimt (Viennese painter from the turn of last century - his most famous painting is 'the Kiss') - so it's a very aesthetic environment.

The Romans are also fascinating (the Greeks laid out the groundwork for them) - not a city in Europe or Northern Africa that doesn't have a bit of Rome somewhere in its substrata. Did you watch the recent TV series 'Rome'? A bit of a phantasy, I daresay, but probably close to the spirit, if we can still say such a thing 2000 years after the event.

Cheers
Taurisk

Re: Incest victim's mothers, doctors excommunicated over abortion

Old thread but didn't want to start a new one. Different religion and slightly different circumstances but.....

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25158911-663,00.html

This is what truly annoys me about religion.

They excommunicate the mother and Doctor of a 9yo girl for performing the abortion but the man who raped her and got her pregnant is allowed to stay in the church - WTF? And they wonder why the church attracts so many paedophiles.

Yeah thats the kind of God I want to worship - not.

Flat Earth and they also supported witches, luckily tune was changed.
What is frightening that progress is so slow.

However in this case there is no argument that rape is OK, argument is about right to life, which is so twisted that is beyond belief.