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DB008 said:
Sorry, what did you say???

Freedom of speech???

Oh, only for you, but not the rest of the non-Islamic world, I see...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-15/hyde-park-protesters-speak-out/4263412

I don't even....
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Great. Some bloke who's just arrived in Australia is telling us the limits of freedom of speech in Australia.

I'm a pretty tolerant person, I don't care where you have come from or what you chose to believe in but when you start telling me that I can't criticise your interpretation of the tooth-fairy then I say, ship him out.
 
dutchie said:
Don't worry everyone. This will be the last time anything like this happens again in Australia.
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What's your basis for that?
It seems that at least some Muslims, perhaps largely due to lack of education and having only experienced violent cultures, are in the normal course of events just managing to contain their urge to create hell. So we have some silly video, made by some obscure American - something most reasonable people would simply dismiss as nonsense - causing this global craziness and overt hatred toward all Americans, maybe all of the West.

Imo it's time for the police and governments to stop being so tolerant and 'respectful'.
 
McLovin said:
I'm a pretty tolerant person, I don't care where you have come from or what you chose to believe in but when you start telling me that I can't criticise your interpretation of the tooth-fairy then I say, ship him out.
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+1
Spot on McLovin, spot on.

"Open letter to the Islamic community - SMH"
http://m.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/an-open-letter-20120915-25ziq.html

(When was the last time you saw someone from the Hillsong Church threaten to behead someone criticising Jesus?)

Placard left over from yesterday. Old mate in white rob has this in his hand.
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Now, I really, really wonder what the Jews will think about this?

Iranian film depicts Jews as money-hungry Arab-killers‘Saturday Hunter,’ screened on Iranian TV, tells the story of a boy and his grandfather as they steal land from Arabs and execute civilians
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http://www.timesofisrael.com/iranian-film-depicts-jews-as-money-hungry-arab-killers/

Substitue 'Jews' to 'Muslims' and l'm sure there would be more protests.


Tweets hit the nail on the head...

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Julia said:
What's your basis for that?
It seems that at least some Muslims, perhaps largely due to lack of education and having only experienced violent cultures, are in the normal course of events just managing to contain their urge to create hell. So we have some silly video, made by some obscure American - something most reasonable people would simply dismiss as nonsense - causing this global craziness and overt hatred toward all Americans, maybe all of the West.

Imo it's time for the police and governments to stop being so tolerant and 'respectful'.
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+1.

I for one am glad he produced the video(although it is both a shame and unacceptable it results in damaged property and or harm to fellow 'normal' human beings). It just goes to show how moronic, stupid, and primitive these people are. Bring out the battens, let the police do their thing, then put them on a plane. I don't see why we have to be tolerant of these people, I am personally totally against this crap(the qu'ran and whatever else is linked to this behaviour), and tired of having to pretend I'm not.


Even the 'level-headed' muslims, as you say Julia are simply containing a very strong urge to cause hell. It's simply a matter of how far they need to be pushed before the take to the streets with a machete.
 
Australian Citizenship
http://www.citizenship.gov.au/learn/cit_test/_pdf/australian-citizenship-aug2012.pdf

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Our freedoms

Freedom of speech and freedom of expression

Freedom of speech allows people to say and write what they think and to discuss their ideas with others. Freedom of expression allows people to express their views through art, film, music and literature.

In Australia, we are free to say and write what we think, privately or publicly, about any topic. However, we cannot harm others.

We cannot make false allegations, encourage others to break the law or damage another person’s reputation. There are laws to protect a person’s good name against false information.

It is against the law to try to make other people hate or act violently towards others because of their culture, ethnicity or background.

We are free to meet with people in public or private places for social or political discussion. We can criticise the government, peacefully protest against government decisions and campaign to change laws.

We must also respect other people’s freedom of speech and freedom of expression.

Newspapers, television and radio have the same freedom.
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Australian sedition law

Recent cases

The Australian government in 2006 investigated Islamist books found in Lakemba and Auburn in Sydney promoting suicide bombings, anti-Australian conspiracies and racism, but the Australian Federal Police found in 2006 they did not breach Commonwealth Criminal Code or NSW Crimes Acts 1900.[3]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_sedition_law

Lantern, l tried to edit my post to include you with the SMH 'Open Letter', but l timed out. My bad.
 
DB008 said:
Now, I really, really wonder what the Jews will think about this?



http://www.timesofisrael.com/iranian-film-depicts-jews-as-money-hungry-arab-killers/

Substitue 'Jews' to 'Muslims' and l'm sure there would be more protests.


Tweets hit the nail on the head...

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Exactly. If you don't like living in a liberal, secular society, then there's plenty of places in the world where Islamic fundamentalism is the norm.

Is it just me or is this wave of idiocy confined to the relatively recent migrants? The Turks, for example, have been in Australia for decades and they have been a great addition to Australia, IMO. I'm sure they cringe.
 
McLovin said:
Exactly. If you don't like living in a liberal, secular society, then there's plenty of places in the world where Islamic fundamentalism is the norm.
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They intend to populate and covert Australia to Sharia law, people laughed, they're not laughing in Paris or London any more.
 
and Amsterdam and Sweden. I dont want thids to turn into a hate Islam thread but this is serious and is happening now. You dont have to Google far to be alarmed.

 
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McLovin said:
Is it just me or is this wave of idiocy confined to the relatively recent migrants? The Turks, for example, have been in Australia for decades and they have been a great addition to Australia, IMO. I'm sure they cringe.
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I think you have something there, I don't remember this sort of reaction in Australia, when Salman Rushdie published the 'Satanic Verses'.
They caused all hell to break out in the U.K and U.S.A, I don't recall a murmer here. It reflects badly on the current asylum seeker debate.
 
Well, well, well...what do we have here...????

"Check and mate" my Muslim friends!



Achtiname of Muhammad

The Achtiname of Muhammad, also known as the Covenant or (Holy) Testament (Testamentum) of Muhammad, is a document or ahdname which purports to be a charter or writ ratified by the Prophet Muhammad granting protection and other privileges to the monks of Saint Catherine's Monastery, Mount Sinai. It is sealed with an imprint representing Muhammad's hand.

History

The document claims that the Prophet (570-633) had personally granted by charter the rights and privileges to all Christians "far and near". It consists of several clauses on such topics as the protection of Christians living under Islamic rule as well as pilgrims on their way to monasteries, freedom of worship and movement, freedom to appoint their own judges and to own and maintain their property, exemption from military service and taxes, and the right to protection in war.

The original charter does not survive, but several copies are now extant in the library of St Catherine, some of which are witnessed by the judges of Islam in order to bolster its historical authenticity. The traditional explanation which accounts for the loss of the original claims that during the Conquest of Egypt by the Ottoman sultan Selim I in 1517, the original document was seized from the monastery by Ottoman soldiers and taken to Selim's palace at Constantinople.[2][1] A copy was then made to compensate for its loss at the monastery.[1] On the other hand, it is also possible that the charter was simply renewed under the new rulers, as other documents in the archive suggest.[3] Traditions about the tolerance shown towards the monastery were reported in governmental documents issued in Cairo and during the period of Ottoman rule (1517-1798), the Pasha of Egypt annually reaffirmed its protections.[1]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achtiname_of_Muhammad

Washington Post article on this
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/guestvoices/2009/12/prophet_muhammads_promise_to_christians.html
 
MrBurns said:
They intend to populate and covert Australia to Sharia law, people laughed, they're not laughing in Paris or London any more.
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Well it's too late now. Especially when Hilary Clinton apologises to the rioters because some braindead called Terry Jones exercises his rights under the First Amemdment to criticise anyone he likes.

Will Clinton now apologise to our police who were injured, and the Australian public for being the recipients of all this religious thuggery.

It is strange that the apologists for these thugs are always from the left. The same applies to union thuggery.

Labor sees Tony Abbott as a bigger threat to the to our society than the street thugs. You will see this on the Insiders.

http://www.theatlantic.com/national...otally-protected-by-the-1st-amendment/262324/
 
Calliope said:
Well it's too late now. Especially when Hilary Clinton apologises to the rioters because some braindead called Terry Jones exercises his rights under the First Amemdment to criticise anyone he likes.
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I was similarly astonished at her apologetic stance. I can't now remember exactly what she said but it was along the lines of "a few tarnishing what is a great religion".
Why could she not just condemn the violence and especially the killing of the American ambassador, without the apologetic note.
I have absolutely no idea why the West in general seems to feel obliged to kow tow to Muslims.
 
Lantern said:
Why can't we revoke the visas for all who were there, that weren't born here in Australia.

According to this I'm a racist.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/an-open-letter-20120915-25ziq.html

Didn't know until today!!!
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You are not racist Lantern. Which race were you offending?

From the article -
In this country you are free to worship whatever god you damn well please. Others are free to worship their gods.

And I am free to say it is all nonsense over imaginary friends.
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Back to the stone-age we go...

AN IRANIAN foundation has reportedly increased a bounty for the death of Salman Rushdie, saying that if the British writer had previously been killed for blasphemy an anti-Islam film currently enraging Muslims would never have been made.

Iranian media quoted Hassan Sane'i, a cleric heading the 15 of Khordad Foundation, as saying in a statement that he was "adding another $US500,000 ($474,000) to the reward for killing Rushdie."
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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/bounty-increased-for-salman-rushdies-head/story-fnddckzi-1226475224763
 
Julia said:
I was similarly astonished at her apologetic stance. I can't now remember exactly what she said but it was along the lines of "a few tarnishing what is a great religion".
Why could she not just condemn the violence and especially the killing of the American ambassador, without the apologetic note.
I have absolutely no idea why the West in general seems to feel obliged to kow tow to Muslims.
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I think it boils down to being that 'the powers that be' are too scared not to kow tow for fear of more attacks.

I also think that this attack on the West is very sneaky in that the Muslim world has no leaders as such so that there is no one that the west can go to and say, "OK guys, this is not on". It also means that whenever there are these violent outbreaks a whole lot of muslims can say "these people do not represent us, or Islam in general".

Like everyone else I am completely fed up with what is going and agree there is no need for anyone to apologise for that video. It may have been offensive to some people but that doesn't excuse violence and why do we even have people in Australia that believe all who offend the prophet should be beheaded :mad:
 
Miss Hale said:
Like everyone else I am completely fed up with what is going and agree there is no need for anyone to apologise for that video. It may have been offensive to some people but that doesn't excuse violence and why do we even have people in Australia that believe all who offend the prophet should be beheaded :mad:
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The facts behind the actions of these murderous thugs. It's no wonder Ms Clinton gets it so cravenly wrong when she is advised by an idiot like General Dempsey.

The day after the murderous assault on the US consulate in Benghazi, and in the face of an ongoing mob assault on the US embassy in Cairo, and on US embassies in Yemen and Tunis, General Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff called pastor Terry Jones in Florida and asked him to withdraw his support for a film that depicts Mohammed negatively. Dempsey's belief that a third-rate riff on Mohammed supported by a marginal figure in Florida is the cause of the terrorist attacks on US embassies is not simply shocking. It is devastating.

It means that the senior officer in the US military is of the opinion that the party to blame for the assaults on US government installations overseas was an American pastor. To prevent the recurrence of such incidents, freedom of speech must be constrained.

A word about the much mentioned film about Mohammed is in order. The film apparently was released about a year ago. It received little notice until last month when a Salafi television station in Egypt broadcast it to incite anti-American violence. If the film had never been created, they would have found another - equally ridiculous - pretext. And here we come to the nature of the attacks against America that occurred on the 11th anniversary of the September 11 jihadist attacks.
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(my bolds)

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...-embassy-murders/story-e6frgd0x-1226475186128
 
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