God the architect implies order and purpose without randomness.
If a God always existed transcending time, then it's quite reasonable to argue that our universe has always existed in some form as well.
I have, that is not to play by your rules and dictates here.Will you please make up your mind! (To play or not to play, that is the question!)
More baseless repetition and assertion, I have no personal religion period and no amount of semantic trickery on your part can successfully argue that I do. I have given your supernatural claims here the lack of respect they deserve as they are asserted without evidence.I am simply repeating the truth as I understand it. The fact that the things I've posted represent a challenge to your personal religion does not entitle you to denigrate, myself, my honesty nor my mental faculties!
Oh please, your sophistry here is saturated with obfuscating argument.On the contrary I am attempting to bring clarity to the argument!
If by theistic intolerance you mean my focus on the falsehoods and fantastic supernatural claims embodied in religion and the gullibility of those who believe such things on faith then yes, guilty as charged.You could've fooled me! Do I need to sift through your posts in order to alert you to the theme of theistic intolerance that can be seen to permeate your posts to this thread?
No, you don't. Whatever mystical origin you attach to any branch of science, it does not logically lead to the conclusion that all scientific endeavor is therefore a religious activity or that those who ascribe credibility to the scientific method are practicing religious worship. This is clearly a non sequitur.Yes! I see what you mean, Newton, the druids, alchemy, monasteries, Pythagoras etc. What would they have to do with historical facts? Must be all just religious superstition eh!!?
Rightio then!I have, that is not to play by your rules and dictates here.
No I say "we don't know therefore all possibilities are still open", but your last statement is fine as well. (maybe we won't find out is also a possibility)
I believe there may well be a God, simply because we live in a universe governed by precise laws and by mathematics, both of which I find difficult to believe could have invented themselves. Even if we live in a "multiverse" consisting of bubbles of universes with their own laws and mathematical relationships the question still has to be asked why do any of the universes need to exist at all ?
From one of the other religious threads:
Given that some are accusing me of word games I thought I'd mention that the definitions of the terms "religion", "faith" and "worship" have all been taken from the same dictionary. As I was not the author of said dictionary I cannot be rightfully accused of redefining the language in respect to those words!
Furthermore it may interest some to know my reasons for preferring this dictionary. The first paragraph of the preface amply reflects the reasoning behind my choice:
P.S. Aforementioned dictionary offers "to hold dear" as a defintion of "worship".
So if cells needed DNA to reproduce. How did the first cells reproduce without DNA, or even know how to reproduce?
How many of these simple cells formed before they started mysteriously reproducing?
Sounds like your starting to believe.
DNA developed after the first self replicating molecules had already been replicating. Not everything that reproduces has dna, and not everything that reproduces is alive. Its not as simple as living matter vs non living matter. There is a grey area, where some non living matter has many properties of living matter. It is from these very early nonliving self replicating material that the first life probably came from. at the end of the day we are all chemistry, life is just a long chain of unbroken chemical reactions, If you don't believe me see how long you can hold your breath, you rely on a constant chain of chemical reactions and without oxygen, carbon and hydrogen life ends.
DNA developed after the first self replicating molecules had already been replicating.
Not everything that reproduces has dna, and not everything that reproduces is alive.
Its not as simple as living matter vs non living matter. There is a grey area, where some non living matter has many properties of living matter.
It is from these very early nonliving self replicating material that the first life probably came from.
at the end of the day we are all chemistry, life is just a long chain of unbroken chemical reactions, If you don't believe me see how long you can hold your breath, you rely on a constant chain of chemical reactions and without oxygen, carbon and hydrogen life ends.
Oh.... Dna forming in matter that was replicating itself?
So howz that work? Cells started forming around this DNA that was replicating itself from matter that was replicating itself. Then started forming into these highly advanced molecular structures. Which somehow knew that they had to split in half each time.
Ul believe anything....
I put my faith in a God that has the power to save my soul, that saved me from my sins. That I'l spend eternity in heaven with him.
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Living matter has similar properties to non-living matter. That is all. It means nothing more than me having similar features to a statue.
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1.An enzyme called DNA gyrase makes a nick in the double helix and each side separates
2.An enzyme called helicase unwinds the double-stranded DNA
3.Several small proteins called single strand binding proteins (SSB) temporarily bind to each side and keep them separated
4.An enzyme complex called DNA polymerase "walks" down the DNA strands and adds new nucleotides to each strand. The nucleotides pair with the complementary nucleotides on the existing stand (A with T, G with C).
5.A subunit of the DNA polymerase proofreads the new DNA
6.An enzyme called DNA ligase seals up the fragments into one long continuous strand
7.The new copies automatically wind up again
It says here in the process that the polymerase goes up the DNA strand to proofread the DNA to make sure its correct.
I don't know much about matter replicating as you have previouly posted but does it do this with non-living matter?
You didn't answer my question. Is there a polymerase present in non-living matter?
I put my faith in a God that has the power to save my soul, that saved me from my sins. That I'l spend eternity in heaven with him.
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