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Logique said:
I'm biased as a Swans supporter. Fully support Adam Goodes' actions. As one tv commentator said, Adam doesn't jump at shadows.

How ignorant (and naive) of that spectator group, and in Indigenous Round of all times! There are adults next to that 13yro girl. I point the finger at them.

Well done by the Collingwood President to go down to the Swans rooms afterwards and apologize.
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I think it's lunacy for the president of a football club to go to the opponents rooms and apologise for the behaviour of a supporter, it's not his fault it's not his clubs fault, that's just BS.
 
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jersey10 said:
Exactly. I don't understand racism. Is it a list of things specific people / groups of people can't say to specific people / groups of people? Is there no list, but if someone takes offence to something you say and it can be linked to something to do with someone's race then it is not allowed?
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The general unwritten rules of discrimination are:

1. "Superior" groups cannot slur or exclude "inferior" groups, but vice versa is tolerated. If there are two groups and you are not sure which is the superior one, it is the one who has to be careful about its words and actions - that's how you tell.

2. The specific things that cannot be mentioned in a derogatory and hurtful way are homosexuality and race.

3. The specific things that can be used in a derogatory and hurtful way are obesity, old age, stupidity, mental retardation, baldness, beliefs such as religions and superstitions, personality disorders, poverty and physical appearance (other than skin colour). It is quite ok to hurt or exclude someone using these sorts of slurs....according to the PC/Twitterverse crowd.


As you can see, I am being facetious. But this is also the truth of the matter. People are idiots, especially those in the Twitterverse.

If Goodes was offended then he has every right to complain. On the other side of the coin, he is a dirty player who goes in with his knees at any opportunity, with every intent of maiming (ie. hurting) his opponents in an illegal manner. I'd rather be called a name than be on the receiving end of one of his charges. Absolutely not news worthy. Totally boring.
 
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Ch 9 just had this kid on the news, she didn't even know reference to an ape was racist.

Just disgusting, this kid will cop it forever over this and the footballer, small brain if ever there was one, saying it hurt his family and all his friends and on it went, big idiot, don't tell me he hasn't copped it and dished it out plenty in his career.

How utterly and completely insane.

I reckon this guy has his ears pricked for anything remotely suspect so he could play the "poor me" card.
 
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MrBurns said:
Ch 9 just had this kid on the news, she didn't even know reference to an ape was racist.

Just disgusting, this kid will cop it forever over this and the footballer, small brain if ever there was one, saying it hurt his family and all his friends and on it went, big idiot, don't tell me he hasn't copped it and dished it out plenty in his career.

How utterly and completely insane.

I reckon this guy has his ears pricked for anything remotely suspect so he could play the "poor me" card.
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+1..

its ridiculous, can someone show me the link between ape and racism? usually gym junky types are called apes, and from the looks of it those types are all different colours and creeds..

are the permanent playing the victim type of people have their ears pricked to any potential racist dog whistle?
Go to the hill of a local League game and ape is the tamest thing you would hear..

the notion that he's a good guy for not pressing charges...wtf.. you got called an ape, can i claim some sort of racism if im called an animal?
 
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Gringotts Bank said:
The general unwritten rules of discrimination are:

1. "Superior" groups cannot slur or exclude "inferior" groups, but vice versa is tolerated. If there are two groups and you are not sure which is the superior one, it is the one who has to be careful about its words and actions - that's how you tell.

2. The specific things that cannot be mentioned in a derogatory and hurtful way are homosexuality and race.

3. The specific things that can be used in a derogatory and hurtful way are obesity, old age, stupidity, mental retardation, baldness, beliefs such as religions and superstitions, personality disorders, poverty and physical appearance (other than skin colour). It is quite ok to hurt or exclude someone using these sorts of slurs....according to the PC/Twitterverse crowd.


As you can see, I am being facetious. But this is also the truth of the matter. People are idiots, especially those in the Twitterverse.

If Goodes was offended then he has every right to complain. On the other side of the coin, he is a dirty player who goes in with his knees at any opportunity, with every intent of maiming (ie. hurting) his opponents in an illegal manner. I'd rather be called a name than be on the receiving end of one of his charges. Absolutely not news worthy. Totally boring.
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well said
 
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white_goodman said:
+1..

its ridiculous, can someone show me the link between ape and racism? usually gym junky types are called apes, and from the looks of it those types are all different colours and creeds..
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Here you go (and this is from a 30 second google):

http://www.spiegel.de/international/racism-in-soccer-ape-sounds-in-the-stadium-a-440699.html

http://au.businessinsider.com/racist-mario-balotelli-monkey-cartoon-2012-6

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...burg-uncomfortable-Chelsea-players-visit.html
 
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It's political correctness gone mad! In Europe they throw bananas at the blacks, but they probably are only doing it because they think they need a potassium boost.
 
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McLovin said:
It's political correctness gone mad! In Europe they throw bananas at the blacks, but they probably are only doing it because they think they need a potassium boost.
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They'll have the fun police at my front door but that is hilarious:D
 
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MrBurns said:
She's 13 :banghead::banghead::banghead:, she's the victim in this, Goodes will be laughing his head off when the cameras aren't watching



Stager on and off the field.
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It's one thing to say as you seem to be dying to say that he should cop it sweet when it comes to racial abuse, shouldn't be a soft ****, leave it on the field etc.... it's another thing to pretend what she said wasn't racial abuse and that she didn't know it was a racially loaded term.
 
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I'm just wondering, how many people who have posted here have had racist comments made towards them?
 
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banco said:
It's one thing to say as you seem to be dying to say that he should cop it sweet when it comes to racial abuse, shouldn't be a soft ****, leave it on the field etc.... it's another thing to pretend what she said wasn't racial abuse and that she didn't know it was a racially loaded term.
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I don't think it was racial abuse, just saw him on the news he isn't even coloured that I could see though his beard is unruly
She herself said she didn't mean it as racial but that doesn't stop the poor injured football player crying to the media.
 
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Tyler Durden said:
I'm just wondering, how many people who have posted here have had racist comments made towards them?
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I haven't posted in this thread but yes, in my younger days often. Did it worry me? Not at all, it was in the days before all this PC.
Do I think Goodes gets an award for overacting? Yes.
What a beatup. The person who will be affected most in this ridiculous episode is the 13 y.o. girl who didn't know she was being a racist, not Goodes.

Cheers
Country Lad
 
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Country Lad said:
I haven't posted in this thread but yes, in my younger days often. Did it worry me? Not at all, it was in the days before all this PC.
Do I think Goodes gets an award for overacting? Yes.
What a beatup. The person who will be affected most in this ridiculous episode is the 13 y.o. girl who didn't know she was being a racist, not Goodes.

Cheers
Country Lad
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Well said, i agree entirely.
 
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Honkies telling it like it is. Thanks boss
 
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More nauseating crap on Sun Herald;

Goodes said the fan's offensive remarks had shocked him.

"I was just like, really? Wow could that happen?"

"I don't know if it's the lowest point in my career, but personally I've never been more hurt.

"I've got no doubt in my mind she's got no idea what she was calling me last night."

"It's not a witch hunt. I don't want people to go after this girl."

Speaking immediately after Goodes, AFL CEO Andrew Demetriou said he felt for the dual Brownlow Medalist and also for the young girl.

"It's disappointing that it occurred from a young girl," Demetriou said.

"We will do our best to contact her parents and offer support."

"You couldn’t help but be upset for Adam … because it affected him so much he had to leave the field of play.

"He, like us, will do what we can to ensure that this girl gets the assistance that she needs so we don’t have incidents like this happening again."

"What happened last night ... is extremely disappointing."

After the game, angered Pies president Eddie McGuire sought out Goodes in the Swans rooms immediately to apologise "on behalf of Collingwood and on behalf of football".

Goodes pointed out the fan to security staff in the dying minutes of the game and the fan was escorted from the ground by police.

Channel Seven commentator Matthew Richardson said Goodes seemed close to tears. McGuire said he was disgusted by the incident.

"I wanted to apologise to Adam on behalf of football in general and ask that he would accept our apologies. He was gracious enough to know that it was a one-off person," McGuire told the Herald Sun.

"I said 'we won't stand for this, we have a zero tolerance'. He's been such a wonderful leader in this great week in our football code.

"I just wanted to go in there, look him in the eye and offer him those apologies and he was good enough to shake my hand and show what a great person he is."


Much respect for Adam Goodes on all fronts tonight.

”” Joel Selwood (@joelselwood14) May 24, 2013

McGuire said the fan was being dealt with by police, but could not say whether further penalties would be applied by Collingwood.

"We're not CSI Collingwood, so that's not our go,'' he said.

"The police have got her. I think Adam ... has found out it was a young girl so I don't think he's going to go after her.

"All we can say is the Swans are a great side tonight, they flogged us on the field and then for that to happen really devastates you.''

"I said that we would find out what the hell has gone on,'' he said.

Something clearly said to Adam Goodes, sitting on the couch speechless and really flat! #bloodydisappointing

”” Jack Riewoldt(@JackRiewoldt08) May 24, 2013

"They're saying it was a 14-year-old girl or whatever, I don't care. We'll go and tell her parents or whatever the case may be,

"We're not having this rubbish.''

Sydney coach John Longmire applauded McGuire's proactiveness after the game.

"Someone in the crowd said something to Goodesy, I think it was a young person,'' Longmire said.

'He was clearly upset and expressed that after the game. He doesn't want to take it any further. He's happy for the AFL to work through those issues and I'm sure they will.

''We're really appreciative Eddie McGuire coming to the rooms after the game, which is a fantastic gesture.''

Collingwood ruckman Darren Jolly reportedly told Goodes: “Please don’t let one person ruin your leadership this week” after learning of the slur.

Magpie defender Ben Reid, who’s brother Sam is a teammate of Goodes, said: "I saw Jolls pointing at the crowd or whoever it was and it's not acceptable and that person who said something to Goodesy should probably have a good hard look at themselves.”

Former Sydney coach Paul Roos said Goodes "was not one to jump at shadows" on Fox Footy after the match.

Not to assume the worst but to disrespect a legend on indigenous round is appaling.shameful she's only young too #fixuplooksharp #respect

”” Nic Naitanui (@RealNaitanui) May 24, 2013

AFL players immediately jumped on Twitter to slam the conduct and stick up for Goodes.

"Much respect for Adam Goodes on all fronts,’’ Cats skipper Joel Selwood tweeted.

Jack Riewoldt said he was "sitting on the couch really flat’’ after the incident.

West Coast’s Nic Naitanui tweeted: "Not to assume the worst but to disrespect a legend on indigenous round is appaling.shameful she's only young too.’’

Readers and footy supporters also reacted strongly to the incident, taking to our comments page and Twitter, most condemning the racial slur.

Sydney reader “Kitty of Paddington” suggested “Collingwood should have O'Brien and indigenous players, Krakouer, Ugle or Yagmoor speak to the girl who allegedly vilified Adam Goodes, to explain exactly what it is like to be taunted by racist abuse! Whether it is AFL Indigenous round or not, to revile anyone because of race, sex or creed is offensive! As a Geelong supporter, I'm so proud of Joel Selwood's Tweet, supporting Goodes."

Point Cook’s Deb summed up the views of many when praising Adam Goodes "for the remarkable way you handled this".

"You are a champion in every way and you have everyone backing you.Thank you to Eddie McGuire for his apology and support."

Others believed it was education and not condemnation that was called for.

"Just maybe there should be an olive branch and the young lady concerned can walk with the indigenous people in the Long Walk to the MCG tonight as a gesture of reconciliation. Makes more sense than banning her from the footy and she might just earn something," “Barney Jack of Sunshine North”, wrote.
 
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Underground miners are called rock apes, doesn't matter what colour they are, they wear it as a badge of honour.
I came to Australia as an 8 year old kid, I was called a pommie ba$!ard, bashed because I wore shoes to school. I actually threw them in a bin, then i was bashed by my parents for losing them.lol
Why has everyone got so precious, you can see why asylum seekers are taking the pi$$, we ask for it.lol
 
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I'm starting to think I'm dreaming
Perhaps we should have someone with the guts to counter this BS as leader.
 
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