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Bushman -you may as well piss into the wind.Most people on this forum do not get it.The post that took my fancy was the one that said Uncle Tom was OK,but Goodes was culpable.
 
Gringotts Bank said:
If Goodes honestly felt ok with himself as an Aborigine, slights such as the one the girl threw at him would not fuss him (that's not to excuse her at all, he should have given her a good slap!). But Buddy obviously doesn't have this same issue, because when it happened (once) to him down in Tassie, he just shook his head and basically disregarded it. You can bet such abuse doesn't happen often to Buddy, simply because he is ok with himself.

Other people just react to what you believe about yourself. Have you noticed? If you walk into a restaurant like you're a billionaire, strangely all the staff fuss over you like you might bestow upon them some magical gift. Walk in like you're apologizing for your mere existence and you won't even get a table.

What Goodes is attempting to do is legislate that people treat him as an equal when he himself does not believe this. It can't possibly work. It's very obvious he feels inferior - the puffed out chest, the serious expression, and many other more subtle signs. It's no crime to feel inferior! I think a lot of people succumb to it at some point, and it's nearly impossible not to if you have had a hard childhood as he obviously did. But what he's doing is counterproductive in the extreme. He is disempowering himself; and since many young Aboriginies would look up to him, he is disempowering them also.
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That's a very thoughtful post Gringotts, I congratulate you on it.

Adam Goodes aside, too many people with hidden agendas are hitching a ride on the AFL, you know, the ribbon day crowd. The first thing they want to do is criticize the game and it's culture.

With NRL State of Origin, I agree with others that the pre-game promos are a real turnoff. It's like some subliminal programming ...you must hate QLDers, you must hate QLDers... It's always best to wait until actual kick off, about 8:15pm or so, before switching on the tv.

And for the benefit of Channel 9, I don't and never will hate QLDers.
 
Bushman said:
Michael Long in the Herald Sun today ... as another icon of the gamer, Mick Malthouse, said today we seem to find it hard to walk in another man's shoes.

PS: go Boomer Harvey this weekend for his 350th.

'Most disturbing is the view Goodes was being precious or thin-skinned; worst of all, that calling an indigenous person an "ape", or likening him to King Kong, wasn't racist.

Long wants everyone to try to understand.

"It goes back in history," he started.

"Go back in history and ask the people who were taken away from their families. Go back in history and Aboriginal people were shot and killed for sport.

"Go back in history and we weren't even citizens of Australia, we were part of the flora and fauna act. We weren't even seen as human beings. Go back in history and explain to my mum and dad, who were taken away as children because of the colour of their skin and who never saw their parents again.

"Go back in time and explain to my mum's mother how they died of a broken heart because decisions were made about race and discrimination.

"Go back in time when Nicky Winmar stood up.

"Go back in time and look at what happened, and what people had to fight for, and to be heard.

"Go back in time, and we're talking about the first Australians, the first people of this nation, who were discriminated against, yet this was their country. Why didn't we get it right in the beginning? Why couldn't we have bipartisanship?

"I want people to understand what we're trying to create with The Long Walk is ... what happened to education.

"By saying 'ape', where did that girl get it from? It came from somebody else, it had been passed down in their history."
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Wow. I never knew all that!!! :eek: Well that changes everything then [/sarcasm]

Seriously, you would have to have been under a rock not to be aware of all these things. It's pretty condescending to be continuously lectured by people about how 'ignorant' we are and how we need 'education' just because some of us don't believe that an indigenous round is the way to achieve equality :rolleyes:

Long is spending so much time, 'Going back in time' he has lost sight of the future. Whatever happened in the past cannot be changed but you can change the future. At the end of the day it would have been better for Goodes to have said to himself, "I heard that girl call me an ape but it means nothing to me because I refuse to let someone else dictate who I am or how I feel, instead I'll just bang this kick through the goal posts because that is my reality not what some 13 year old over the fence says to me". And when I say better I mean better for him, not the rest of us (although of course that would have relieved us from the mind blowing stupidity that has been media circus of the past week, win win :xyxthumbs ;) ).

Good luck to Harvey for his 350th too, a great player, hope the Roos can snag a win for him this week :)
 
I like Adam Goodes and think he has done no wrong.

However, I find these comments very much over the top.

Teammate Jarrad McVeigh made the admission after the game that Goodes' recent troubles will stay with him forever.

"We didn't talk as a group, but it was tough to see him go through that," McVeigh said.

"From here on in we'll all forget about it, but it'll still be with him, so we'll have to continue to support Goodesy throughout the rest of his career.
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Miss Hale said:
Wow. I never knew all that!!! :eek: Well that changes everything then [/sarcasm]

Seriously, you would have to have been under a rock not to be aware of all these things. It's pretty condescending to be continuously lectured by people about how 'ignorant' we are and how we need 'education' just because some of us don't believe that an indigenous round is the way to achieve equality :rolleyes:

Long is spending so much time, 'Going back in time' he has lost sight of the future. Whatever happened in the past cannot be changed but you can change the future. At the end of the day it would have been better for Goodes to have said to himself, "I heard that girl call me an ape but it means nothing to me because I refuse to let someone else dictate who I am or how I feel, instead I'll just bang this kick through the goal posts because that is my reality not what some 13 year old over the fence says to me". And when I say better I mean better for him, not the rest of us (although of course that would have relieved us from the mind blowing stupidity that has been media circus of the past week, win win :xyxthumbs ;) ).

Good luck to Harvey for his 350th too, a great player, hope the Roos can snag a win for him this week :)
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this is perfect and how I feel about this issue. well said!
 
Macquack said:
I like Adam Goodes and think he has done no wrong.

However, I find these comments very much over the top.
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There's something wrong there, Goodes is either playing games or is just plain weak, whether you're black or white , bald , have a big nose or whatever you just cop it and adjust, his attitude s just cringeworthy
 
Macquack said:
I like Adam Goodes and think he has done no wrong.

However, I find these comments very much over the top.
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They talk to football players too much. I'll wager that most of them really don't want to talk a lot about this issue but they have to support Goodes so they just blurt out whatever they think the reporters want to hear, they rarely think through what they are saying. There expertise lies on the field not articulating their thought on subjects like this.

There was a classic case last year when Greene from Melbourne was asked about women's round. He rambled on a bit and then said he thought that the day would come when they have a member of the coaching staff from a female background :confused: Clearly he couldn't give a toss about women's round and was just trying to say something politically correct.
 
sptrawler said:
I am really over these reporters trying to drum up a story, rather than get off their lazy @rses and report news.
It must be so much easier to troll around social websites, than actually get out there in the real world and earn a living.IMO

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...r-mocks-sudanese/story-fni0fee2-1226655498860
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Today on the news we are told nobody has ever heard of the word used racially.

But we have lawyers, reporters and of course all the hangers on trying to talk it up.
Is there any wonder the boats are flooding in, we must be the dumbest country with the dumbest government.
 
sptrawler said:
Today on the news we are told nobody has ever heard of the word used racially.

But we have lawyers, reporters and of course all the hangers on trying to talk it up.
Is there any wonder the boats are flooding in, we must be the dumbest country with the dumbest government.
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African Think Tank chairman and Victorian Australian of the year in 2009 Dr Berhan Ahmed said the stubby was offensive and needed to be taken seriously. Picture: Darren McNamara Source: Herald Sun

The Offending Stubby holder.:rolleyes: I want one.

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Shock!!! horror!!!

Sergeants remain in their roles at Sunshine police station despite controversy over racist stubby holders:eek:
 
Don't know if anyone saw 4 Corners last night but it made me sick, the trafficking of pre teenage girls for sex by a large group of Pakistanis in the UK over many years.

The police had to go to extraordinary lengths to get convictions.

The arrogance of these pigs was incredible, they should all be executed and now.

Nothing to do with racial abuse but not sure where else this fitted, the show was traumatising to some extent.

I'm not a racist but some races have subhuman content more than others I'm starting to believe.
 
I think it's about time we woke up to the obvious and tackled the race issue head on.

I don't mean race vilification but allowing wholesale immigration of anybody because it's politically correct.

It's obvious some people have completely different standards and lifestyles to us.

Why should we tolerate Muslims for instance who dictate that they will take the country over ?

Not all Muslims of course but there are plenty of militant ones out there that we know about and nothing is done ....

Why aren't people who are against our ways simply deported ?
 
Here's a bit of discrimination, unfortunately it isn't about colour or religion, not even about ethnic background.
Just the fact the person is deaf, easier to ignore them and find a hearing person, no doubt they will be a better juror.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...duty/story-e6freoof-1226657300065#mm-breached

At least Goodes was doing what he enjoyed and being paid for it. He gets all affronted because someone calls him something he isn't(an ape). Rightly so.
This person fronts up to do their duty and gets told to "pizz of your deaf, no use to us". lol who is the one being vilified. Shame they weren't a footy player.:eek:
 
sptrawler said:
Here's a bit of discrimination, unfortunately it isn't about colour or religion, not even about ethnic background.
Just the fact the person is deaf, easier to ignore them and find a hearing person, no doubt they will be a better juror.
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It's not discrimination. It's just common sense.
 
Racism rules in Indonesia.

CONTESTANTS at this year's Miss World beauty pageant will not wear bikinis in the parade in a bid to avoid causing offence in Muslim-majority Indonesia, organisers have confirmed.

The 137 women taking part in the September contest will swap bikinis for more conservative attire, such as traditional sarongs, for the beach fashion section.

The contest is being held on the resort island of Bali, where foreign tourists flock in their millions and the beaches are packed with women sunbathing in skimpy swimwear.

But Miss World Organisation chairwoman Julia Morley insisted that none of the pageant's contestants would wear a bikini.
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/wo...muslim-indonesia/story-fni0xs61-1226658277159

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Without a doubt Goodes is one of AFL greatest players and I would have liked to have remembered him as such as years go by but this BS puts him in the princess basket.

Maybe it was the voice of a young girl calling out that hurt but surely over the years he would have copped a bit of **** on and off the field. Supporters as well as players try to put the opposition off their game.

Fat heifer, skinny runt or an ape.
Unless a particular colour is mentioned how is it racist?

Eddie copped it as well stirring the pot.... mentioning a job vacancy in a musical with Goods as a good candidate.
( Good to see Eddie squirm tho)
Had Goodes not made a fuss about it wouldn't have been brought up by anyone.
How many of us black or white copped a name or two thru our life.

The Footy and NRL shows thrive on this stuff just as medias sensationalism on it.

Goodes should have been more professional, ignored the comment and continued being one of the AFL great football players.
 
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