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Ms Bligh is going to axe that Brisbane icon, The Royal Brisbane Children's Hospital, on the northside and build another children's hospital in her electorate on the southside.

Critics calculate that the extra 23 overnight beds promised would cost $47.8 million each. This includes cost of building.

Ms Bligh has spent $100,000 of taxpayers money writing to 150,000 northside households attempting to explain her decision.
 
Hasn't Mr Springborg said he would reverse this decision?

The local LNP candidate has now declared himself for my area. He's a total idjit. Was Mayor for a few years and was a complete puppet.
Would find it pretty hard to vote for him on this basis.
 
N.S.W suffered the same choice at the last elections. The libs just did not run a good campaign, and we were stuck with labor once again. Labor members now just blatantly rip off the public, and the corruption runs so very deep and openly that it’s sickening. If they get in again I'm moving state.
 
Springborg's attempts at being funny are pathetic. My advice to him is;

Stop playing silly borgers and stick to your script,,,dull as it is.

Leave the comedy acts to Bligh
 
I may have to reconsider my intention to vote ALP.
The ALP machine seems to be up to dirtier tricks than I'm willing to countenece.

This from Andrew Bolt's blog, a person not known to have unreasonable bias against the ALP.
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/

If Anna Bligh’s cronies do this kind of monstering over mere campaign posters, what do they do when the stakes are big?


Manly BP service station owner Jim Theodorou… was yesterday “sticking it” to the ALP by sticking with the Liberal National Party signs erected at his service station premises.

A self-proclaimed long-time Labor voter and fishing charter operator, Mr Theodorou had agreed to the LNP signs after he decided to switch political allegiance in protest at the State Government’s creation of Moreton Bay green zones.

But after the signs went up, he received an anonymous phone call from a woman who claimed to be a customer. Mr Theodorou said the woman asked why no ALP signs were present and then threatened to ask ALP supporters to boycott the service station if the party’s signs weren’t allowed.

Mr Theodorou said he checked the phone number and discovered the caller was Deputy Premier and local member Paul Lucas’s campaign manager Linda Harnett.

That’s another .5 per cent of the vote gone, just there

In Mundingburra that leaves the Greens, the LNP Family First or an Independent.

Unforunately there is no Marijuana Party candidate..

As I don't want to leave the joint the choice seems difficult.

BROWN, Jenny The Greens ..........godbothering Gaia Warmeners
NELSON-CARR, Lindy Australian Labor Party ...... Machine Politics, a good member
NICKSON, Amanda Family First Party ......... godbotherers
PAULER, Francis ......... Independent
DWYER, Colin LNP ......... Don't know him

This is stressful.
I'll have a stubbie and think about it.

gg
 

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heh,

I wonder who put her up to it, or maybe just taking some initiative.

Garpal, any gossip from your political contacts, state or federal?
 
This sort of behaviour is one reason I have left Australia. The Lobor government there is screwing everything up. And lie even more than the usual political bafoons in power.
 
shaunQ said:
Qld does. They get a disproportion amount of the GST revenue, which NSW hates them for.
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The notion of handing more to the smaller sates goes back to Federation and is intended to offset the higher cost (per head of population) of providing services in these states.

Only problem I can see is that I don't really see how Qld is a "small" state in any way. A poorly managed one yes, but with all those mines, people and so on I don't think anyone can really claim a lack of opportunity. Rather, it's a lack of taking advantage of that opportunity that is the problem.

I can see a case for financial help for NT, Tas, SA and WA with their small populations and, in WA, very large geographic area. Both of these things add to the cost of providing basic services. But Qld doesn't really fit the bill there, at least not while they're mismanaging the massive wealth they have let slip through their fingers.

Nothing against anyone in Qld, please don't take it personally. But it must take an awful lot of bungling for a mining state to end up broke immediately following such a massive boom. Even SA and Tas don't seem to be doing quite that badly, and they never had a boom to start with (unless you count crippling droughts as some sort of "boom").:2twocents
 
Its all about

"protecting jobs, its in our DNA. Because thats what Labor does"
-Anna Bligh

brings a tear to the eye. ;)
 
Smurf1976 said:
The notion of handing more to the smaller sates goes back to Federation and is intended to offset the higher cost (per head of population) of providing services in these states.

Only problem I can see is that I don't really see how Qld is a "small" state in any way. A poorly managed one yes, but with all those mines, people and so on I don't think anyone can really claim a lack of opportunity. Rather, it's a lack of taking advantage of that opportunity that is the problem.

I can see a case for financial help for NT, Tas, SA and WA with their small populations and, in WA, very large geographic area. Both of these things add to the cost of providing basic services. But Qld doesn't really fit the bill there, at least not while they're mismanaging the massive wealth they have let slip through their fingers.

Nothing against anyone in Qld, please don't take it personally. But it must take an awful lot of bungling for a mining state to end up broke immediately following such a massive boom. Even SA and Tas don't seem to be doing quite that badly, and they never had a boom to start with (unless you count crippling droughts as some sort of "boom").:2twocents
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Smurf, you're quite right. We in Qld are also wondering where all the massive wealth from mining has gone, especially when the govt increased royalties significantly about a year ago.

Re Qld receiving more of the GST I think that's supposed to be because there is such a constant influx of people from the other States, currently apparently about 1800 per week.

Certainly Labor have grossly mismanaged pretty much everything. But when I listen to Mr Springborg who says he is going to fund his so far quite extravagant promises by "an efficiency dividend" (no detail offered so far) I doubt the LNP will be much better.

gg, Lindy Nelson Carr seems to have been pretty OK as a local member, doesn't she?

The one person I'd really like to see thrown out is Health Minister Stephen Robertson. He has never acknowledged fault for anything and constantly whines excuses about everything being someone else's fault. Can't stand him.

I'm not at all surprised about the campaign poster issue at the service station. This sort of stunt will be happening by both sides all over the State.
 
I'll be writing anti-state, anti welfare, anti-warfare quotes on the ballot.

Both main parties are a joke. :)
 
Julia said:
Smurf, you're quite right. We in Qld are also wondering where all the massive wealth from mining has gone, especially when the govt increased royalties significantly about a year ago.

Re Qld receiving more of the GST I think that's supposed to be because there is such a constant influx of people from the other States, currently apparently about 1800 per week.

Certainly Labor have grossly mismanaged pretty much everything. But when I listen to Mr Springborg who says he is going to fund his so far quite extravagant promises by "an efficiency dividend" (no detail offered so far) I doubt the LNP will be much better.

gg, Lindy Nelson Carr seems to have been pretty OK as a local member, doesn't she?

The one person I'd really like to see thrown out is Health Minister Stephen Robertson. He has never acknowledged fault for anything and constantly whines excuses about everything being someone else's fault. Can't stand him.

I'm not at all surprised about the campaign poster issue at the service station. This sort of stunt will be happening by both sides all over the State.
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Yes Julia,

Lindy Nelson Carr is a good member. Townsville is a Labor town although we have a rainbow of hicks running the council after the recent city Amalgamation.

I'm actually considering not voting for Lindy now. I'm a swinging voter. I had thought Labor were worth supporting but am impressed by the LNP's policies.

Economy is crap.
Health/hospitals are crap
Infrastructure is lacking here in the north.
Too many dysfunctional ministers who have been sacked e.g Purcell

So maybe for me I have to say Labor are responsible for all this and I need to vote LNP.

gg
 
Less than two days to go and for the first time in my life I'm still undecided.
Simply have no confidence in either Party.

Springborg has still to clarify where he is going to achieve his "3% dividend" from the existing budget with which he declares he is going to fund all his promises!
Too waffly and vague for me to believe this is anything more than a wish.

And he has said he would keep the two top public servants in Qld Health.
Imo this is where most of the bad culture comes from. Qld Health needs a whole fresh start with the inclusion of some senior doctors at the top.

I do like his idea of community boards for regional hospitals but am not sure how this would work in practice.

Just have a really strong sense that the LNP have very little idea about actually managing Queensland. Until a few short months ago they were absorbed in their infighting between National and the Libs.

Against Labor is Anna Bligh's decision to go to the polls early in order to avoid the worsening economic situation. We can see through this, Anna!
And the decision to add fluoride to the water supply without consultation or referendum. That has really, really annoyed me.

Then all the money spent on infrastructure for using recycled water, then hey, we're not going to do that any more.

But most of all, during the past several years of astonishing boom times, no surplus has been achieved to cover the current downturn. Instead, we're facing a growing deficit.

Then with the recent oil spill, the Environment Minister, Andrew MacNamara, was seen sitting in a cafe drinking champagne at the very time we were being advised of the disastrous extent of the oil spill.

Any other Queenslanders made up their minds who you're voting for and why?
 
Labor has absolutely failed. Anyone who votes Labor, and they get re-elected, shows that they endorse their pathetic failings of the last term. What would anyone gain by re-electing them? They have 9 ministers retiring, and they have the incompetent Fraser and Robertson. They force amalgamation, flouride, recycled sewerage drinking water upon us to name a few. A new Labor would have untested ministers just like the opposition. The opposition can't be any worse, I'd rather give them a chance then reward a shocking performance!!! :banghead:
 
windy is right,

How can you reward failure? I dont know how you can consistently screw up, but Labor has discovered the formula.

How is Springborg a risk anyway.. has Labor left anything to cockup

It struggles me to comprehend how there is even a decision to be made, if something doesnt work- move on- if springborg doesnt work- move on, and so forth.

wont suprise me if bligh gets in.... i mean QLD is home of the Kruddster
 
I dont trust the competence of either parties, bit of a worry.


Normally i vote on the bigger picture but this time im going to be selfish and vote LNP solely because theyve promised to build a road that will allow my business to expand.


Both teams are making promises that they cant afford to keep. Hate being forced to vote for people you know are talking crap.
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
So maybe for me I have to say Labor are responsible for all this
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I don't agree, the Voters are responsible. I remember lamenting last election how totally incompetent the previous labor Government was under Beattie and that things would only get worse if they were returned, sure 'enuff, that's what happened. I am no great seer but if I can see it, any one can see that rewarding incompetence is a fast slope to oblivion. Same thing again, if labor get in it will get worse because all you are doing is reinforcing to them that their continual incompetence can be rewarded with re-election, if the LNP get in, it will still be just as bad but might not deteriorate..

I have no beef with voters who are happy with the mess we are in, my only beef is with those voters that new labour where doing a terrible job but voted for them anyway.

Garpal Gumnut said:
and I need to vote LNP.
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Can't see why, I could only ever Vote for an Independent. Fundamental to the problems of our democracy is the party political system, nothing can be changed until that is removed, the only way to do that is to have a collection of Independents, where they represent their electorate, not the apparatchik of the party machine.

As to Lindy. I have had direct dealings with her in the past when she was the Minister for Parks and Wildlife, pleasant enough woman but being a Union hack might have good standing in the labour party but doesn't bode well for running the business of Government.
 
The CM editorial today says it all. Please read it.
BTW anyone who thinks Mr Springborg is a woos shouldn't jump to conclusions. He is my local member, and has been a damn fine representative of my electorate. I have also met him years ago when he came to my children's school, and I really liked him. I think he would make a good premier.
Don't under-estimate country politicians!
 
Julia said:
Certainly Labor have grossly mismanaged pretty much everything. But when I listen to Mr Springborg who says he is going to fund his so far quite extravagant promises by "an efficiency dividend" (no detail offered so far) I doubt the LNP will be much better.
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Julia, perhaps Mr Springborg knows where some of those ongoing mismanagement dollars have been spent and has plans to eliminate them.It shouldn't be too hard once you control the Treasury pursestrings.
 
Trevor_S said:
I could only ever Vote for an Independent.
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Trevor, that may well be fine if your area has an Independent worth voting for.
There is no such person here. And if your idea were to be taken to the extreme - i.e. where parliament consisted of no majority party but a conglomerate of independents - I can't begin to imagine the mess and impossibility of decision making.
Can't see it ever happening anyway, but I don't think you can be quite so categorical in saying everyone should vote for Independents.
 
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