PEN - Peninsula Energy

[Chalea]

...Fukushima’s nuclear disaster is a nightmare. Ghostly releases of radioactivity haunt the Japanese countryside. Lives, once safe, are now beset by an ineffable scourge promising vile illness and death...Link

A fallen dream

Nuclear power is no magic solution, argues Pervez Hoodbhoy it's not safe, or cheap, and it leads to weapons programmes.

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But then Fukushima came along. The disaster's global psychological impact exceeded Chernobyl's, and left a world that's now unsure if nuclear electricity is the answer.

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The plume of radiation reached as far as Canada. Closer, it was far worse. Japan knows that swathes of its territory will be contaminated, perhaps uninhabitable, for the rest of the century.

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[barney]

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:bananasmi

For some reason that Dancing Banana grates on me : .......

He looks like a banana "smoothy" at the moment, but it wouldn't surprise me to see him get "peeled" big time at some point over the next 12-18 months

AND ..... I suspect he should have a "green" skin

 

[tothemax6]

The plume of radiation reached as far as Canada. Closer, it was far worse. Japan knows that swathes of its territory will be contaminated, perhaps uninhabitable, for the rest of the century.

Yes, Fukushima came along and now humans no longer want energy supplies.

Back in reality, of course, anyone who knows anything about humans and their hunger for energy knows that nuclear power will continue on its path regardless of the incident at Fukushima.
And the statement 'Japan knows that swathes of its territory will be contaminated, perhaps uninhabitable, for the rest of the century' is hysterics only.

 

[Tysonboss1]

However it won't result in no more uranium mining. Increasing efficiency of energy generation actually increases fuel consumption, since it lowers the price of energy, thus stimulating industries to use even more energy (as substitutes for more labour, more efficiency r&d etc). There was a similar situation in England during the industrial revolution, when it was theorized that the increasing steam engine efficiency would lower coal consumption and spare England's coal reserves. Of course the reducing of the marginal energy costs fueled even more industrial expansion.

Yeah, I aggree. Especially because the current installed capacity of nuke plants will continue operating using virgin uranium for many years.

It is thought provoking that the current waste uranium could power the world for more than 200 years, there would have to be a lull in demand eventually as traditional plants shut down or convert to the new design.

 

[Tysonboss1]

A fallen dream

Nuclear power is no magic solution, argues Pervez Hoodbhoy it's not safe, or cheap, and it leads to weapons programmes.


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Hi Chalea,

What is you view on the future of nuclear if the next generation type reacters such as the terra power type become a reality.

I myself see it as inevitible and that nuclear power in its current form is just a stepping stone to these next generation series of technolgies.

Just in regards to our previous discussion, just over 100 people have died in sydney from diseases related to our current carbon based fuels since we spoke a couple of months back, hundreds of others living severly reduced quality of life due to illness.

 

[Chalea]

Just in regards to our previous discussion, just over 100 people have died in sydney from diseases related to our current carbon based fuels since we spoke a couple of months back, hundreds of others living severly reduced quality of life due to illness.

Tysonboss1

What % of your 100 people had an underlying illness or were old? 100?

Thyroid gland irregularities found in young evacuees from Fukushima

NAGANO (Kyodo) -- Hormonal and other irregularities were detected in the thyroid glands of 10 out of 130 children evacuated from Fukushima Prefecture, a Nagano Prefecture-based charity dedicated to aid for the victims of the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear accident said Tuesday.

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Radioactive iodine tends to get lodged in children's thyroid glands more than those of adults, placing youngsters at greater risk of developing disorders and diseases including cancer.

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[Tysonboss1]

Tysonboss1

What % of your 100 people had an underlying illness or were old? 100?

Not old, No underlying illness, about a 1000 people a year in sydney alone get sick and die because of diseases directly related to air pollution. Offcourse this does not include the countless people who are alreadsy frail with age or other conditions (asthma) who's life is shortened or made worse by air pollution,

The point I was making was the other energy alternatives to nuclear are also having a giant impact that dwarfs anything nuclear has caused.

Did you know 3300 people died mining coal last year in china alone.

 

[Tysonboss1]

Air Pollution effects on children's lung development.

 

[Tysonboss1]

Who would have thought, air pollution also causes heart disease.

 

[tothemax6]

Yes, but Tysonboss, you are forgetting that nuclear is intrinsically evil.
It creates mutants, godzillas, and makes things glow green. Hence, everything else is fine, as long as it is not nuclear.

 

[notting]

Intrinsically evil?
That is an utterly a mindless statement.
Evil is that which creates suffering.
Global warming has the potential to create far more suffering than Heroshima and the odd nuclear disaster.
The pros and cons need to be weighed in the light of rational thought not mindless emotionally charged irrational statements.
There is so much energy and heat in the core of this earth it seems insane that we have not yet perfected a way to harmlessly use that!
Blame the oil companies for they were the ones that deliberately chose to create culture of doubt about the cause of climate change.

 

[Tysonboss1]

Intrinsically evil?
That is an utterly a mindless statement.

I am pretty sure he made that comment in jest.

 

[Tysonboss1]

The pros and cons need to be weighed in the light of rational thought not mindless emotionally charged irrational statements.
There is so much energy and heat in the core of this earth it seems insane that we have not yet perfected a way to harmlessly use that!
Blame the oil companies for they were the ones that deliberately chose to create culture of doubt about the cause of climate change.

Yes all true,

And given the roughly 40 years we have to cut co2 release to zero we need all hands on deck.

We need more of everything, we need more technologies that use energy more efficiently.

We need to capture carbon from coal plants,

We need to roll out Solar, wind, Hydro and geothermal as fast as we can,

and we need to get the work done to bring on the next generation of nuclear technology and deploy them to replace Coal fired plants.

 

[barney]

There is so much energy and heat in the core of this earth it seems insane that we have not yet perfected a way to harmlessly use that!

Its an interesting concept and does sound good in principle, however ......

I wonder if the Expansion and Contraction caused by the removal and transfer/radiation of large amounts of heat, being artificially engineered and taking place under the earths crust etc. might cause some unwanted side effects (tectonic plates). Perhaps thats why the technology has not been advanced at this stage?

 

[Chalea]

But then Fukushima came along. The disaster's global psychological impact exceeded Chernobyl's, and left a world that's now unsure if nuclear electricity is the answer.

Nuclear energy after Fukushima

The environmental disaster at Japan’s Fukushima nuclear power plant this spring is creating a new global divide over the safety of nuclear energy. Sharply differing responses to Fukushima from the world’s wealthiest and poorest nations will bring diminished safety for all.

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But developing countries with little nuclear experience and spotty industrial safety records are moving ahead with ambitious plans to expand generating capacity. China and India — after pausing briefly to review safety arrangements — are adding about 80 new reactors over the next two decades. (The United States has 104 of the 436 reactors worldwide.)

India’s expanding use of electricity obtained from enriched uranium — an essential ingredient in building nuclear weapons — is certain to spur Pakistan’s already well-established atomic ambitions, at a time when many see Iran’s nuclear research program as a prelude to a triangular nuclear arms race involving Israel and Arab states that covet nuclear power.

In short, the proliferation of nuclear reactors across Asia is certain to facilitate and encourage nuclear weapons proliferation as well.

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The calamity at Fukushima spread fears of radiation poisoning around the world — even though all but one or two of the estimated 14,000 deaths were thought to have been caused by the earthquake and tsunami that triggered the reactor meltdowns.

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But the nuclear world has changed dramatically in the past six months. The administration needs to recognize and act on the reality that Fukushima — like Chernobyl in its day — issued a summons to new thinking.

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:bananasmi

 

[Chalea]

The environmental disaster at Japan’s Fukushima nuclear power plant this spring is creating a new global divide over the safety of nuclear energy.

Insider: Iran Will Be 'Next Chernobyl'

There is a "great likelihood" that the Bushehr reactor could generate the next nuclear catastrophe after Chernobyl or Fukushima, says the document, which has been passed to The (London) Times by a reputable source and is attributed to a former member of the legal department of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran.

It claims that Bushehr, which began operating last month after 35 years of intermittent construction, was built by "second-class engineers" who bolted together Russian and German technologies from different eras; that it sits in one of the world's most seismically active areas but could not withstand a major earthquake; and that it has "no serious training program" for staff or a contingency plan for accidents....

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[Chalea]

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Time to update the daily 'patterns' chart...

Another bearish pennant is forming confirming the 2.0c approximate target. Breakout will confirm...

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[Chalea]

Another bearish pennant is forming confirming the 2.0c approximate target. Breakout will confirm...View attachment 44833

The weekly chart shows a bearish continuation rectangle pattern.
Using the previously successful measuring method, (click here), the same "2.0c approximate target" is shown...

Click chart to enlarge

 

[tothemax6]

Intrinsically evil?
That is an utterly a mindless statement.

I am pretty sure he made that comment in jest.

Yes tone can be hard to convey in a post, but my references to godzilla should have been a giveaway.

 

[Ubershrewd]

Yes, but Tysonboss, you are forgetting that nuclear is intrinsically evil.
It creates mutants, godzillas, and makes things glow green. Hence, everything else is fine, as long as it is not nuclear.

That would make Homer Simpson redundant..how blasphemous!