I hooked into these things over 5 years ago when they were less than two bucks. At the time BTIM only had about $40 Billion under management.Last time I looked, they pull that much in, every 6 months or so.Quite the performer for patient,long term shareholders.Now,with the MP over $9,they have just completed their SPP at $8.20.Not much left over for mums and dads,so I'm expecting to be scaled back to buggery in the maximum ten grand allowed. At least Westpac shareholders got to double up....sometimes you get lucky if you take the time to read the fine print in the PDF.
PDL - Pendal Group
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What's the double up fine print for WBC shareholders? Anyway it's a plus to see more free floats for BTT
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On May 4th, 2018, BT Investment Management Limited (BTT) changed its name and ASX code to Pendal Group Limited (PDL).
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Such a stupid name change
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PDL up 9.48% today, smashing through resistance at $8 to finish the day at $8.20 following the release of its financial results for the year ended 30 September 2019.
Not much of a comment from me other than this result was clearly better than the market expected. The lower performance fees, as a result of fund outflows and funds that unperformed their benchmarks, resulted in an almost $50 million reduction in net profit.
Not much of a comment from me other than this result was clearly better than the market expected. The lower performance fees, as a result of fund outflows and funds that unperformed their benchmarks, resulted in an almost $50 million reduction in net profit.
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I jumped into PDL earlier this month and it is a losing trade for me at the moment -3%
Now it came up in a new scan today and I will be watching closely.
Looking for wave 2 to be completed
It has been in the oversold territory and it is making another break so we will see if it has enough momentum.
Now it came up in a new scan today and I will be watching closely.
Looking for wave 2 to be completed
It has been in the oversold territory and it is making another break so we will see if it has enough momentum.
Following last month's heavily oversubscribed $ 190 Million Share Placement for Institutional shareholders, Pendal has now received $218 Million in the S.P.P. at $6.80, from the plebs. This amount will be scaled back to the same $190 Million, as in the Placement.
These 10,118 shareholders (representing just 37% of those entitled to take up the offer) holding a minimum 1500 shares, will not be scaled back . Shareholders averaged $19,000 in their applications, up to the $30,000 limit.
Although the new shares won't come with the 17 cent dividend paid on the 1st of July (dividend has to be declared in the current 2020-21 tax return), that's a nice little profit on today's $8.00 S.P.
These 10,118 shareholders (representing just 37% of those entitled to take up the offer) holding a minimum 1500 shares, will not be scaled back . Shareholders averaged $19,000 in their applications, up to the $30,000 limit.
Although the new shares won't come with the 17 cent dividend paid on the 1st of July (dividend has to be declared in the current 2020-21 tax return), that's a nice little profit on today's $8.00 S.P.
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Decided to buy some PDL today. Overall I think at good deal at $6.96 although would have been a lot better yesterday at $6.76..... :-(
Still, remains 10 % down on last weeks price and seems to to have some things going for it:
- Mornignstar (via ANZ bank) are suggesting EPS of 48c for 2021 and 58c for 2022 and a target/fair price of around $9.00
- Vanguard recently bought 5 % of company on 8/10 for $8.00 per share
- Director Chris Jones bought $88k worth on market in August
What do you guys think, hold or unload if opportunity presents?
Still, remains 10 % down on last weeks price and seems to to have some things going for it:
- Mornignstar (via ANZ bank) are suggesting EPS of 48c for 2021 and 58c for 2022 and a target/fair price of around $9.00
- Vanguard recently bought 5 % of company on 8/10 for $8.00 per share
- Director Chris Jones bought $88k worth on market in August
What do you guys think, hold or unload if opportunity presents?
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and now $6.90
Pendal has benefited from a quadrupling of performance fees and the successful integration of US funds management group Thompson, Siegel & Walmsley (TSW), acquired for $413million in July.
The deal doubled Pendal’s US funds under management to (FUM) $62.5 billion and helped total FUM climb 51 per cent to $139.2 billion after what Pendal called the strongest 12-month growth for equity markets in 30 years.
Pendal stated 42 per cent of its FUM ranked in the top quartile of investment performance versus peers over the financial year, with average FUM reaching $522.8 billion in FY 2021. Despite the rising FUM, net outflows for the year hit $3.7 billion.
Pendal will pay a final dividend up 11 per cent to 24¢ per share to take total dividends to 31¢ per share. EPS was up 17% to 48.2c
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What am I missing about this company?
It's just a fairly boring funds manager isn't it? And yet the share price seems to be in freefall with a 20% plunge at one point today.
Not a stock I hold, just came to my attention.
It's just a fairly boring funds manager isn't it? And yet the share price seems to be in freefall with a 20% plunge at one point today.
Not a stock I hold, just came to my attention.
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Now with less FUM...
They have had some instos pull the rug. (See announcement today)
I was like a cat watching a bird on this one later today. Resisted.
I had a look at what happened to Magellan chart, and decided I wasn't interested, only from a TA view.
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$6.8 billion in fund outflows in the December quarter. It looks oversold at these levels, but it's probably wise to take a wait and see approach.
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Pendal Group CEO, Nick Good, said,
“It has undoubtably been a disappointing quarter in terms of ourf lows. However, we are responding with a clear set of actions and have delivered strong performance fees in line with those recorded in the prior year."
yes, but.
“It has undoubtably been a disappointing quarter in terms of ourf lows. However, we are responding with a clear set of actions and have delivered strong performance fees in line with those recorded in the prior year."
yes, but.
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announced a drop in funds under management
i hold PDL ( bought @ $2.30 and the cash rescued as BTT , )
was ALMOST tempted to grab some extra today , BUT ( imho ) the UK is a basket case , rivaling the EU , and remember the over-reaction with MFG and am wondering if the 'smart money ' is fleeing the funds on a larger scale
so i have a fair chance of picking some of these even cheaper
i hold PDL ( bought @ $2.30 and the cash rescued as BTT , )
apart from the international exposure , nothing that special , ( at least JHG can brag about Bill Gross in the team )
was ALMOST tempted to grab some extra today , BUT ( imho ) the UK is a basket case , rivaling the EU , and remember the over-reaction with MFG and am wondering if the 'smart money ' is fleeing the funds on a larger scale
so i have a fair chance of picking some of these even cheaper
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I'm wondering about the bigger picture about where the money is flowing/going, and is this sort of thing more widespread than I'm realising?
Between this, Magellan and another event a month or 2 ago (large funds pulled from yen haven to euro haven), I'm wondering if this small subset is indicative of a bigger picture?
Between this, Magellan and another event a month or 2 ago (large funds pulled from yen haven to euro haven), I'm wondering if this small subset is indicative of a bigger picture?
Dona Ferentes
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why is Perpetual having a tilt at Pendal?
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Pendal Group Limited (ASX: PDL) - Request for Trading Halt
Pursuant to Listing Rule 17.1, Pendal Group Limited ACN 126 385 822 (PDL or the Company) requests
an immediate one day trading halt in respect of PDL’s ordinary shares today, 19 July 2022.
In accordance with Listing Rule 17.1 and in support of its request, PDL advises that:
(a) the trading halt is requested for the purpose of issuing an announcement to the market concerning
discussions in relation to a potential control transaction.
(b) PDL requests the trading halt to remain in place until the earlier of:
(i) such time as it makes an announcement to the market concerning discussions in relation
to a potential control transaction (ASX Announcement);
(ii) the commencement of trading on 20 July 2022; or
(iii) the Company separately requests that the trading halt be lifted.
(c) PDL expects that the ASX Announcement will be made as soon as possible, and in any event,
prior to the open of trading on 20 July 2022; and
(d) PDL is not aware of any reason why the trading halt should not be granted or of any other
information necessary to inform the market or ASX about the trading halt.
Yours faithfully
( DYOR )
i hold PDL ( 'free-carried' ) i bought when it was BTT in 2011
would rather this fell through but here we are
Pursuant to Listing Rule 17.1, Pendal Group Limited ACN 126 385 822 (PDL or the Company) requests
an immediate one day trading halt in respect of PDL’s ordinary shares today, 19 July 2022.
In accordance with Listing Rule 17.1 and in support of its request, PDL advises that:
(a) the trading halt is requested for the purpose of issuing an announcement to the market concerning
discussions in relation to a potential control transaction.
(b) PDL requests the trading halt to remain in place until the earlier of:
(i) such time as it makes an announcement to the market concerning discussions in relation
to a potential control transaction (ASX Announcement);
(ii) the commencement of trading on 20 July 2022; or
(iii) the Company separately requests that the trading halt be lifted.
(c) PDL expects that the ASX Announcement will be made as soon as possible, and in any event,
prior to the open of trading on 20 July 2022; and
(d) PDL is not aware of any reason why the trading halt should not be granted or of any other
information necessary to inform the market or ASX about the trading halt.
Yours faithfully
( DYOR )
i hold PDL ( 'free-carried' ) i bought when it was BTT in 2011
would rather this fell through but here we are
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Pendal in discussions with Perpetual
Sydney, Australia, 19 July 2022 - Pendal Group Limited (ASX: PDL) (Pendal) advises that it is in discussions with Perpetual Limited (ASX
PT) regarding a potential transaction.
Discussions are highly conditional and incomplete and there is no certainty that they will result in a transaction.
The Pendal Board will keep shareholders and the market informed in accordance with its continuous disclosure obligations.
i exited PPT in January 2013 @ $34 .62 ( and a useful profit for the 18 month stay )
certainly wasn't the multi-bagger BTT/PDL has been
Sydney, Australia, 19 July 2022 - Pendal Group Limited (ASX: PDL) (Pendal) advises that it is in discussions with Perpetual Limited (ASX
PT) regarding a potential transaction.Discussions are highly conditional and incomplete and there is no certainty that they will result in a transaction.
The Pendal Board will keep shareholders and the market informed in accordance with its continuous disclosure obligations.
i exited PPT in January 2013 @ $34 .62 ( and a useful profit for the 18 month stay )
certainly wasn't the multi-bagger BTT/PDL has been
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On January 25th, 2023, Pendal Group Limited (PDL) was removed from the ASX's Official List in accordance with Listing Rule 17.11, following implementation of the scheme of arrangement between PDL and its shareholders in connection with the acquisition of all the issued capital in PDL by Perpetual Limited (PPT).