Tisme
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Hmm... empowerment.
That's a nice way of telling the battling Aussies to get off their azzes.
So her proposal is to get "dole bludgers" back to slave labour wages work, and have the taxpayers paying for most of it?
I have an idea. Why not we taxpayers educate the kids better; more funding for schools and more job re-training programmes.
If w can't do that, then maybe it's cheaper to just pay for the doles instead of "helping" people to work and pick up the tab on employer's behalf.
I might go into politics one day. And it's not just for the generous pay and perks. Well, alright, just for that. But I wouldn't be happy or proud of it!
There was a realisation a long time ago both all the majors that work for the dole tends to starve out small business operators because they can't compete with public works programs. Welfare types are typically unreliable and not stayers. Economically they are had to mouth spenders so the money recirculates quickly through dependent retailers, who in turn employ lots of staff or pay taxes, etc, etc.
Can you expand on it a bit for those not old enough to remember all the facts, please
I thought welfare types, like all other types, would be stayer if the job offer some sort of future or experience they can build on. Picking up trash on freeways, mowing lawn at parks or other shaming tend not to motivate people to stay.
They are unreliables who play lip service to the notion of working, but won't risk the interruption to welfare payments if the job tanks and they can't find another, especially if there is a 4 week wait.
There has to be a preservation of surety of safety net for these people to take the plunge, otherwise there is no incentive for them to risk the meagre comforts they have.
So if they won't risk getting a job to be fired and then have to wait for 4 weeks to put food on the table... then why is it a good idea to put that four weeks delay, or extending it, again?
Work for the dole needs to be a re training exercise, not just some menial task performing. The fact is that technology is taking jobs at all levels (except maybe politicians) and people have to be trained to work with that technology or get left behind. The days of the unskilled worker are fast receding.
Those who can't keep up will probably just have to be paid a meagre wage to keep them off the streets and away from the public so they don't cause trouble. The job market is changing fast and most of our politicians don't realise it or don't care.
I don't like the outlook for the people in the welfare cycle, I hate to use the term, but "No hopers" is about the only way to describe a lot of them, I can't imagine these people ever breaking the cycle, poor health, lack of education, lack of contacts, lack of drive, these people will never keep up.
I think we should be paying such people NOT to have children. Stop the poverty trap and maybe kids will get a better go with parents who can afford them.
I'm not one to hang-on every utterance the flame haired thrower expels, so here I 'er', to those that have a 'deeeper understanding' of the complex 'intricacies' of the woman and throw over to those that do;
Undoubtably this evenings 'tete d tete' on Radio National with Ms Karvalis will not have gone without your attention. Senator Hanson's call for borrowing for national development to achieve the ends she intendeds is nothing if not Keynesian. And, from the position, that she as Senator holds and from which she is directing this omnipotent largesse is nothing less than Stalinist central planning... 'insert your comments here'... Ashby's got an inkling of what these thing are. I wonder if the IPA would have anything to contribute?
If it's Fast rail that runs in close proximity to one of my dearly cherished and cheaply bought back-waters, all power to your arm pauline... no better feeling than self interest mixing with national interest, and the sooner these places get a little closer proximity to multiculturalism the better off it'll be...Viva trade Viva movement Viva the exchange of ideas... All brought closer by the Ipswich Witch.
Yes, I'm afraid you are right, the outlook for the people on that video is very grim.
I could say a lot of things about this but I would be viewed as intolerant, but for example a lady complaining about being poor with four kids in tow. Poverty breeding poverty, what chance do those kids have ?
I think we should be paying such people NOT to have children. Stop the poverty trap and maybe kids will get a better go with parents who can afford them.
It's not just outlook. It's the past and the present.
I know we all believe in people being the master of their own destiny and all that. But that's just fairy tale stuff. Gov't policies play a very large role in people's lives and livelihood.
So while there are people who came from poverty but "made something" of themselves. There are also those who came from great wealth and flush all of it away. But such things are rare.
Those who pin the national flag on their lapel, or drape one around themselves, to show that they care... they ought to do a heck of a lot more to break the cycle than wagging their fingers and figuring out how much more shaming and tougher they can make it for people.
Keep doing the trickle down economic, everyman for himself and tougher on the poor but more love to the rich kinda of "economic" policies and pretty soon we'll be calling on Nauru to house our own prison population.
Keep doing the trickle down economic, everyman for himself and tougher on the poor but more love to the rich kinda of "economic" policies and pretty soon we'll be calling on Nauru to house our own prison population.
Good points. From an economic perspective it's much better (in the first instance) to cut taxes on the working lower and middle soicio economic groups than to cut taxes for businesses, .
I consider myself in the middle on the topic, I want a society where people are encouraged to go out and study and work hard and invest to serve others get rewarded and live well.
But I also want a society where a share of the production goes back to those that drew the short straw and have disabilities, poor health or just bad luck.
designing such a system is hard, because you have to accept that if the system is designed to look after those that got the short straw, then there will be others who abuse it, and the more we tighten it to squeeze out the abusers, we will squeeze the genuine people that need our support.
It's a bit like the legal system, if you want a legal system so hard that no guilty person ever has a chance of getting off, you will have a legal system where a lot of innocent people go down too, but if you want a system where no innocent people go down, then the result will be a system where some guilty people get off.
Apparently it's impossible to make a decent profit let alone a windfall return unless taxes are lowered. Makes me wonder how we ever got this far and people like Turnbull made a fortune in a high interest high tax environment.
Good points. From an economic perspective it's much better (in the first instance) to cut taxes on the working lower and middle soicio economic groups than to cut taxes for businesses, because business don't make money unless consumers spend. The lower middle socio-economic cohort who don't currently have their needs and wants satisfied will be much more likely to spend extra cash than those who already have what they want.
Increased consumer spending leads to increased business profits and more government revenue which is good news for everyone. If governments just give tax cuts to business without stimulating consumer spending then a lot of startups will fail because of lack of demand.
I think she's too stupid to have known what she was getting into with this character. She has a pretty poor history of surrounding herself with men who take advantage of her.
A proponent of arcane arguments challenging the legitimacy of Australian courts through a literal interpretation of the constitution, Gargan’s engagement by Culleton coincided with the senator raising questions about the authority of the high court.
In his first question in the Senate, Culleton referred to the high court’s supposed failure to issue writs in the name of the Queen. On 7 November, he wrote to the Senate president accusing the high court of procedural failings that made it unlawful and asked that the upper house consider removing “offending judges” from office.
The letter to the Queensland magistrate, dated 15 November and bearing Culleton’s Senate letterhead, said: “We are watching with interest the conduct of all judicial officers Australia wide, after discovering the high court has not been conducting its business in the name of the Queen.
“If so this could reflect on all jurisdictions. As a safeguard against a possible injustice, could I respectfully ask that you adjourn the matter until the constitutional position of all courts is clarified.”
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