Paid Parental Leave (PPL)

[Bill M]

I know this might upset a few people but I do not support the PPL. My wife and I made a choice many years ago not to bring children into this world and we are happy about our decision. If someone wants to have kids then pay for them yourselves, why should we the tax payers have to pay for you to have a kid?

 

[Wysiwyg]

why should we the tax payers have to pay

How many people does an individual taxpayer have to provide for. Tribe mentality may have worked for small groups where everyone was contributing for survival but when the tribes swell to thousands/millions the common cause is vague and the tribe bludgers/rorters/fraudsters and take-the-easy-way-outa's proportionately swell. Add to that I don't have any interest in how many offspring Linda Loveall in W.A. has carelessly birthed.

I do believe and help when I want, the children who had no say in the physical or social nasty circumstances they are in. That is where the baby funds could go instead of money having to be raised via donations.

 

[Logique]

I know this might upset a few people but I do not support the PPL. My wife and I made a choice many years ago not to bring children into this world and we are happy about our decision. If someone wants to have kids then pay for them yourselves, why should we the tax payers have to pay for you to have a kid?

Sympathize and don't get me started :frown:. Meanwhile retirees and superannuants on fixed incomes - they're copping it in the neck on taxation.

 

[Junior]

How many people does an individual taxpayer have to provide for. Tribe mentality may have worked for small groups where everyone was contributing for survival but when the tribes swell to thousands/millions the common cause is vague and the tribe bludgers/rorters/fraudsters and take-the-easy-way-outa's proportionately swell. Add to that I don't have any interest in how many offspring Linda Loveall in W.A. has carelessly birthed.

I do believe and help when I want, the children who had no say in the physical or social nasty circumstances they are in. That is where the baby funds could go instead of money having to be raised via donations.

It is beneficial to society if the mother (or father) can take time off work or work part time to raise their kid without being under financial hardship/stress. There should be assistance but it should only be for the first two kids. No one NEEDS more than two.

All very well to say don't have kids if you can't afford them, but the reality is many/most residents of Sydney/Melbourne for example, can't afford kids without some form of financial assistance until they are like 40 years old, by which time it's dangerous to try. Rent/mortgage payments chew up a big %% of income through your child-bearing years.

 

[Junior]

Sympathize and don't get me started :frown:. Meanwhile retirees and superannuants on fixed incomes - they're copping it in the neck on taxation.

Retirees by and large cost way more than they contribute, taxation wise. By this logic taxpayers shouldn't have to fund retirees - don't retire if you can't afford to pay for it yourself!

 

[Logique]

Retirees by and large cost way more than they contribute, taxation wise. By this logic taxpayers shouldn't have to fund retirees - don't retire if you can't afford to pay for it yourself!

Change that tense to 'have contributed'. Which makes your assumption false.

 

[Junior]

Change that tense to 'have contributed'. Which makes your assumption false.

Likewise most of those who bear children will be taxpayers before, after and perhaps during the event.

 

[Wysiwyg]

have received an individual adjusted taxable income of $150,000 or less in the financial year either before the date of birth or adoption or the date you claim, whichever is earlier, and

Up to 150k is generous. Heck, why don't we raise that to a 1000k. It'costs much money to raise children.

Generally, those that receive government assistance of any kind think it's a great idea and the ones that don't receive it wonder why they have to pay for others to receive it. Rob Paul, pay Mary.

 

[Wysiwyg]

There should be assistance but it should only be for the first two kids. No one NEEDS more than two.

Yes that is good for the planet. Two in for two out.