OpenAI - ChatGPT

[frugal.rock]

AI already getting fundamental things wrong...

Hepburn mayor may sue OpenAI for defamation over false ChatGPT claims - ABC News https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04...al-action-over-false-chatgpt-claims/102195610

 

[divs4ever]

AI already getting fundamental things wrong...

Hepburn mayor may sue OpenAI for defamation over false ChatGPT claims - ABC News https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04...al-action-over-false-chatgpt-claims/102195610

sooo... where a news researcher ( please note the small 'n ' ) uses AI to compile research and includes provable inaccuracies .. who gets sued the AI provider or the the news broadcaster ??

overall information inaccuracy is quite endemic in that industry it might be very hard to tell the difference apart from department headcounts

 

[divs4ever]

alternately one might discern that 'whistle-blowing ' and being a prosecution witness against against certain organizations was a crime certain factions wanted stamped out

remember - truth is treason in an empire of lies

 

[Gringotts Bank]

 

[Gringotts Bank]

Big news in the music industry (search Drake and The Weekend). But we ain't seen nothin' yet. The future potential of AI is so vast it's not even possible to imagine its limits. I reckon life in just 10 years will be unrecognizable in many ways. Every day there's a new breakthrough, and all I can think is that humanity is not ready for this. Feels like a tsunami is coming.

Movie and TV actors will be replaceable. Computer game coding will be possible with far less human input. Gaming is an enormous industry, bigger $ than movies. Accounting, law, admin, teaching, manufacturing... it's all going to be turned upside down.

I hope the markets stay open.

 

[wayneL]

Big news in the music industry (search Drake and The Weekend). But we ain't seen nothin' yet. The future potential of AI is so vast it's not even possible to imagine its limits. I reckon life in just 10 years will be unrecognizable in many ways. Every day there's a new breakthrough, and all I can think is that humanity is not ready for this. Feels like a tsunami is coming.

Movie and TV actors will be replaceable. Computer game coding will be possible with far less human input. Gaming is an enormous industry, bigger $ than movies. Accounting, law, admin, teaching, manufacturing... it's all going to be turned upside down.

I hope the markets stay open.

 

[qldfrog]

Wayne was lost for words...?

 

[divs4ever]

Big news in the music industry (search Drake and The Weekend). But we ain't seen nothin' yet. The future potential of AI is so vast it's not even possible to imagine its limits. I reckon life in just 10 years will be unrecognizable in many ways. Every day there's a new breakthrough, and all I can think is that humanity is not ready for this. Feels like a tsunami is coming.

Movie and TV actors will be replaceable. Computer game coding will be possible with far less human input. Gaming is an enormous industry, bigger $ than movies. Accounting, law, admin, teaching, manufacturing... it's all going to be turned upside down.

I hope the markets stay open.

so where will the jobs be ??

, just asking because large numbers don't want to get wet or dirty while earning their income , surely we won't all be at Uni. accumulating endless debt .

 

[Gringotts Bank]

so where will the jobs be ??

, just asking because large numbers don't want to get wet or dirty while earning their income , surely we won't all be at Uni. accumulating endless debt .

UBI will probably come into force where necessary.

A lot of people saying 'prompt engineer' will be a job. That is, learning how to prompt AI in order to engineer new products and services. Other than that, I don't know.

But I think we have far bigger concerns in regards to AI. The scope and scale of threats are too long to list out. And they're not unrealistic. Most people don't know earth has already seen several near-extinction level threats in the past 500 years, each time killing millions of people.

 

[moXJO]

Chatgpt is now on the internet. So it can book flights organise groceries etc.
Only a select random few at the moment on pro.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

I must admit, if it were not for Elon Musk being in the more conservative corner, and suggesting a slow rollout of AI, I'd be more gung ho on being in the libertarian corner on AI.

It does threaten specialists who have hogged information behind cartels, medical colleges, financial funds, internet behemoths and casework by legal firms come to mind.

Then again, the darker side of the web including criminal access to private information will be difficult to monitor and control.

I'm no expert so ERABYT.

gg

 

[wayneL]

I must admit, if it were not for Elon Musk being in the more conservative corner, and suggesting a slow rollout of AI, I'd be more gung ho on being in the libertarian corner on AI.

It does threaten specialists who have hogged information behind cartels, medical colleges, financial funds, internet behemoths and casework by legal firms come to mind.

Then again, the darker side of the web including criminal access to private information will be difficult to monitor and control.

I'm no expert so ERABYT.

gg

The thing is is that AI Is still just a program and subject to the whims of the programmer.

IOW, there is nothing intrinsically libertarian about AI and may ultimately be the perfect tool for a totalitarian society.

Have a look at who is programming this shyte.

 

[Gringotts Bank]

In reference to AI, Gawdat says he always thinks back to the breakout of covid. All we needed back in early 2020 was common sense: complete lock down of borders for a few weeks and a heightened protection of vulnerable populations. Instead, we saw media hysteria, tribalism, profiteering by Big Pharma, political lies and manipulation - f*ck ups beyond belief. All of the mistakes boil down to ignorance and self-interest. When AI goes rogue, we'll see the stupidity of humanity on full display again.

 

[Gringotts Bank]

I don't know if you saw the whole thing @qldfrog, but he said something quite reassuring. The pace of take off beyond the singularity will have a large influence on how things play out. Whereas a mildly superintelligent AI might run amok or be abused by humans, something billions of times smarter than us is likely to have little interest in manipulating, controlling or killing us. AI may well leave our galaxy and find somethng far more interesting to do elsewhere. We would be like ants to it.

This type of outcome seems plausible, even though it's impossible to imagine how something with vast intelligence would behave. If AI does this and becomes a godlike intelligence, what does it leave on earth? Maybe it speeds off into infinity and throttles its earth-bound capabilities. Or maybe it invents a superintelligent system of karma which would prevent humans from using it to mistreat each other. Sounds like sci-fi as I write this, but superintelligence is coming upon us rapidly. Barely 6 months ago, most of the world had not heard of GPT3.

Maybe we're living in an AI-controlled reality already. I don't mean a simulation with some huge bank of quantum computers, diodes and switches sitting outside of space-time, but an AI that is embedded into every speck of our physiology. That might be what god is. Then we'd have to drop the 'A'. Is artificial intelligence really 'artificial'? I don't think it is. We made it out ourselves (out of silicone).

 

[Dona Ferentes]

(auto)gaslit by AI.... from an academic:

"While ChatGPT is impressive at doing straightforward tasks and there are many students, I would say, already using it well and improving their results, it has a tendency to go rogue when the prompts that feed it aren’t detailed enough. ChatGPT doesn’t do context, or at least not well.

"As a result, I am failing more students than ever before, three times more to be exact, because of it, and grade averages are down. From the conversations I’ve had with other academics the problem is widespread. Meanwhile, the advantages at the other end of the spectrum, for students using it well, so far, have been minimal. I expect this will change, and change quickly, but for now there is some painful teething going on.

"The line between using AI and cheating at your studies is particularly fine. I tell students to explore AI to improve their research and time management. The caveat is that they declare any use so it can be assessed transparently when graded. Most, however, do not....

 

[Dona Ferentes]

from one of the Ukraine sites

 

[LeFeek]

ChatGPT is too predictable. I don't like how it writes.

We use Content Bot at work, and it's much better. The texts have a more natural feel to them, you know. That's what ChatGPT lacks.

If someone needs AI tools for writing, I recommend searching for one on https://writingtools.co.uk/pricing.html

 

[Dona Ferentes]

Lawsuits and rivalries put OpenAI to the test​

By Finance News Network |

Elon Musk’s injunction filing, Canadian publishers taking aim at the company, and ambitious plans for the next phase of growth. Here’s a look at some of the latest OpenAI developments.

Musk vs OpenAI: The escalating legal battle
Elon Musk has intensified his legal battle against OpenAI. On Friday last week, he filed a motion for a preliminary injunction, seeking (among other things) to halt OpenAI’s transition into a fully for-profit entity until the case is resolved. Musk was one of the co-founders of OpenAI in 2015, but departed in 2018, citing disagreements over the company’s direction. Since then, OpenAI shifted to a capped-profit model in 2019 and is now pursuing a fully for-profit transition.

Musk initiated legal action against OpenAI (along with CEO Sam Altman and President Greg Brockman) on 29 February this year, alleging breach of charitable trust. That is, that the company had deviated from its original nonprofit mission to develop artificial intelligence for humanity’s benefit, violating the terms under which Musk’s donations were made. This suit was withdrawn in June 2024 without explanation, but revived in August—and then expanded in mid-November to include Microsoft as a defendant. Microsoft has invested approximately US$14bn in OpenAI since 2019.

The claims in Friday’s filing include:

• that OpenAI has abandoned its original nonprofit mission;
• that OpenAI and its partners, including Microsoft, engaged in anticompetitive practices such as investor restrictions, in violation of the Sherman Act;
• that Microsoft benefited from competitively sensitive information, in violation of the Clayton Act;
• that OpenAI’s leadership, including Sam Altman, engaged in self-dealing by transferring assets and intellectual property to for-profit entities where they had financial interests;
• that Musk, OpenAI, and the broader public will suffer irreparable harm if the injunction is not granted. For instance, that OpenAI and Microsoft’s dominance in the AI market would be solidified, and that Musk’s new venture, xAI, is at risk of losing access to critical investment capital;
• that public interest considerations favour the injunction. OpenAI’s current path is said to harm public trust, stifles AI innovation, and accelerates unsafe AI deployment.

In response to Musk’s filing, an OpenAI spokesperson dismissed the claims as “utterly without merit”.

Musk’s xAI
While challenging OpenAI, Musk has simultaneously scaled his AI venture, xAI, into a formidable rival. Founded in July 2023, xAI has already achieved a valuation of US$50bn and recently closed a US$5bn funding round. The company’s flagship product, the Grok chatbot, integrates with Musk’s social media platform X (formerly Twitter), and was trained using data from X.

xAI’s rapid growth is supported by infrastructure investments like the Memphis supercomputer “Colossus”, consisting of 100,000 Nvidia GPUs, which became operational in early September.

Canadian publishers sue OpenAI over copyright infringement
Also on Friday, five of Canada’s leading news organisations (CBC/Radio-Canada, the Globe and Mail, the Toronto Star, the Canadian Press, and Postmedia) launched a landmark lawsuit against OpenAI, accusing the company of using their proprietary articles without authorisation to train its ChatGPT model. The case was filed in Ontario’s Superior Court, seeking damages of up to C$20,000 per article.

The plaintiffs allege that OpenAI “scrapes” proprietary content from news websites, bypassing copyright safeguards such as paywalls and disclaimers. “They are strip-mining journalism while substantially, unjustly, and unlawfully enriching themselves to the detriment of publishers,” said Paul Deegan, president of News Media Canada.
If successful, the lawsuit could result in billions of dollars in damages, setting a precedent for how AI companies engage with copyrighted material.

While OpenAI argues that its practices fall under fair use principles, the plaintiffs maintain that the scale and nature of the alleged infringement go far beyond what is permissible.

This case is part of a broader wave of litigation against AI companies, including:

• December 2023: The New York Times alleged that ChatGPT and Microsoft Copilot reproduced Times articles without authorization. The case is currently in discovery phase.
• April 2024: Eight US newspapers, including the Chicago Tribune and New York Daily News, claimed OpenAI and Microsoft illegally harvested copyrighted articles to train their AI models.
• October 2024: Publishers of the New York Post and the Wall Street Journal sued Perplexity AI, alleging that the AI startup copied substantial amounts of their copyrighted content without permission.

What’s next for OpenAI?
OpenAI has a $157bn valuation, but faces significant costs, spending over $5 billion annually, as well as competition from a number of rivals, like Google’s “Gemini” and Anthropic’s “Claude”, Perplexity AI and xAI’s “Grok”.

Despite its challenges, the company is pushing forward with an ambitious roadmap. It has 250 million weekly active users, and hopes to reach 1 billion users by 2025.

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[SirRumpole]

I have very little knowledge of python, only the basics. This is what I was able to come up with yesterday. Eventually I would like to be able to get some statistics from data to help with my discretionary trading.

Hopefully there is no experience coders looking at this because you will cringe I am sure. But to be able to do something like this with basically zero knowledge is pretty impressive. Obviously you can search articles and things like that but being able to bug fix and ask it about errors or what specific pieces of code do is very handy

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From here I was able to remove the weekend data or any days that did not have any data and then create a completely useless graph that means nothing. But like I said this would have been impossible without cjhatgpt

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I recently did something similar, and asked CGPT to write a Python program to access stock data. It works and comes up with a similar result to the above.

I'm certainly no expert either in stocks or programming, but it provides a pathway to try a few ideas I've been mulling over.

For python people, you need to do

pip install yfinance
and..
pip install matplotlib.

Program follows

import yfinance as yf
# Fetch data for BHP Group (ASX:BHP)
ticker = "BHP.AX" # Yahoo Finance ticker for BHP on ASX
data = yf.download(ticker, period="1mo", interval="1d")
# Display the data
print("Historical Data for BHP (Last 60 days):")
print(data)
# Calculate the average closing price
average_close = data['Close'].mean().item()
print(f"\nAverage Closing Price for BHP over the last 60 days: AUD {average_close:.2f}")
# Plot the closing prices
import matplotlib.pyplot as plt
data['Close'].plot(title="BHP Closing Prices (Last 60 Days)", ylabel="Price (AUD)")
plt.show()

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

I have used most if not all the available AI products out there. I found ChatGPT very intimidating, it was the first one I'd used. Since then I've found all the others to be somewhat wishy washy in their answers.

My ability to frame the question and scenario properly ( there is a word for it i'll check later ? prompt ) i.e. ask the right question in the right way is essential. I now find Chat GPT is the best. More answers where appropriate and less the same. Better answers. Less bull****.

That is my experience anyway.

gg