Only in America...

[basilio]

So a Congressional candidate in the 2020 mid terms fabricates his life story to make him politically acceptable.
He creates a non existent College degree, claims a non existent working career in the most prestigious financial companies in the US and makes up a Jewish ancestory to appeal to the Jewish community for votes.

He is elected and suddenly every lie is exposed. Yet he is still in Congress.

In any business such a candidate would be marched out the front door quick smart. But in the US Republican Party this is just smart stuff .

What is really interesting IMV is that the Republician party seemingly has made no check on their candidates for Congress. Are candidates expected to have actually done what the say or is too passe ?

‘Do you have no shame?’: Tulsi Gabbard grills congressman-elect George Santos​

The former presidential candidate called resume-inflating Santos’s claims ‘blatant lies’ in Fox News interview

George Santos speaks during the 2022 Republican Jewish coalition annual leadership meeting in Las Vegas, Nevada, on 19 November 2022. Photograph: Caroline Brehman/EPA

Samira Asma-Sadeque
Thu 29 Dec 2022 07.41 AEDTLast modified on Thu 29 Dec 2022 07.59 AEDT


In a Fox News interview with former presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard on Tuesday, Republican congressman-elect George Santos claimed he is not a “fraud” when questioned about the recent revelations – and his eventual admission – that his claims about his career and identity are riddled with lies and fabricated records.

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The Fox interview came the same day as fresh allegations that he falsely claimed a Jewish identity.

Even though Santos told the New York Post that he never claimed to be Jewish, there is documentation proving otherwise. Santos had been loud about his identity as a “proud American Jew”, and enjoyed coverage in Jewish media where he was celebrated as the “only Jewish Republican member of New York’s House delegation”.

‘Do you have no shame?’: Tulsi Gabbard grills congressman-elect George Santos

Adding to his woes, prosecutor in part of Santos’ legislative district launching investigation into his ‘nothing short of stunning’ claims

www.theguardian.com

 

[basilio]

How much did George Santos fabricate ? Double -Hamburger with the lot and large fries on the side.

Liar, Liar: Why Republican lawmaker-elect George Santos is in a world of trouble

A Republican elected to Congress in the mid-term elections, Santos has admitted to concocting whole chunks of his biography – his education, his employment and even his heritage. Now, insisting on serving his two-year term, Santos is facing condemnation, calls to step down and possibly ethics probes

www.firstpost.com

The full details of George Santos's lies are outlined here

George Santos’ Long Record of Lies Revealed - DCCC

Right-wing extremist George Santos caught in series of lies to voters A New York Times review of Congressman-Elect George Santos’ resume unveiled even more of the right-wing extremist’s long-running record of lies, deceit, and unanswered questions. According to the report, there was no proof to...

dccc.org

 

[Knobby22]

How much did George Santos fabricate ? Double -Hamburger with the lot and large fries on the side.

Liar, Liar: Why Republican lawmaker-elect George Santos is in a world of trouble

A Republican elected to Congress in the mid-term elections, Santos has admitted to concocting whole chunks of his biography – his education, his employment and even his heritage. Now, insisting on serving his two-year term, Santos is facing condemnation, calls to step down and possibly ethics probes

www.firstpost.com

The full details of George Santos's lies are outlined here

George Santos’ Long Record of Lies Revealed - DCCC

Right-wing extremist George Santos caught in series of lies to voters A New York Times review of Congressman-Elect George Santos’ resume unveiled even more of the right-wing extremist’s long-running record of lies, deceit, and unanswered questions. According to the report, there was no proof to...

dccc.org

Psychopath

 

[wayneL]

How much did George Santos fabricate ? Double -Hamburger with the lot and large fries on the side.

Liar, Liar: Why Republican lawmaker-elect George Santos is in a world of trouble

A Republican elected to Congress in the mid-term elections, Santos has admitted to concocting whole chunks of his biography – his education, his employment and even his heritage. Now, insisting on serving his two-year term, Santos is facing condemnation, calls to step down and possibly ethics probes

www.firstpost.com

The full details of George Santos's lies are outlined here

George Santos’ Long Record of Lies Revealed - DCCC

Right-wing extremist George Santos caught in series of lies to voters A New York Times review of Congressman-Elect George Santos’ resume unveiled even more of the right-wing extremist’s long-running record of lies, deceit, and unanswered questions. According to the report, there was no proof to...

dccc.org

Interesting. Notwithstanding Santos' lies, the dccc article tells a couple of porkies too.

Monumental hypocrisy.

 

[basilio]

Interesting. Notwithstanding Santos' lies, the dccc article tells a couple of porkies too.

Monumental hypocrisy.

No surprise here of course.

Please.. just point me in the direction of any Democrat candidate who has created such a comprehensive package of lies about their personal achievements to sell themselves to the voters.
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What is clear however is that the Republician Party at least takes a very hands off approach to vetting their candidates for election. They certainly don't seem to require any fact checking of things as basic as education, work or ethnicity claims. Basically whatever lies or bullxhit a candidate can say to get elected is fine because in 2022 the Republican party has got over shame as an issue.

They are now officially shameless.

I wonder how the electors of New York who voted for Psycho Santos feel about discovering what a monumental fraud he is ?

I wonder how they feel about a Republician Party that still accepts him as a Congressmen despite the ever expanding litany of lies and alleged business activities George Santos demonstrated?

If people start investigating how many other politicians 'personal stories' will turn out to be 'lipstick on a pig' ?

In any future election how much evidence will be demanded of candidates for their window dressing ?

In what universe will anything Psycho Santos has to say about himself ever have credibility ? I hope he gets sent to Coventry in Congress. IMV he deserves nothing less. ( But then of course we have to look at the 45th Presidents history of relentless lying as the precedent for this .. )

 

[wayneL]

No surprise here of course.

Please.. just point me in the direction of any Democrat candidate who has created such a comprehensive package of lies about their personal achievements to sell themselves to the voters.
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What is clear however is that the Republician Party at least takes a very hands off approach to vetting their candidates for election. They certainly don't seem to require any fact checking of things as basic as education, work or ethnicity claims. Basically whatever lies or bullxhit a candidate can say to get elected is fine because in 2022 the Republican party has got over shame as an issue.

They are now officially shameless.

I wonder how the electors of New York who voted for Psycho Santos feel about discovering what a monumental fraud he is ?

I wonder how they feel about a Republician Party that still accepts him as a Congressmen despite the ever expanding litany of lies and alleged business activities George Santos demonstrated?

If people start investigating how many other politicians 'personal stories' will turn out to be 'lipstick on a pig' ?

In any future election how much evidence will be demanded of candidates for their window dressing ?

In what universe will anything Psycho Santos has to say about himself ever have credibility ? I hope he gets sent to Coventry in Congress. IMV he deserves nothing less. ( But then of course we have to look at the 45th Presidents history of relentless lying as the precedent for this .. )

You're missing the point, of course Santos should be rubbed out. But the articles were also full of lies. Ironic.

And I seem to recall Democrat presidents <cough> "embellishing" a few things, none more so the the current one.

This nothing new bas, its been going on on both sides forever. Try a little objectivity bro.

 

[basilio]

You're missing the point, of course Santos should be rubbed out. But the articles were also full of lies. Ironic.

And I seem to recall Democrat presidents <cough> "embellishing" a few things, none more so the the current one.

This nothing new bas, its been going on on both sides forever. Try a little objectivity bro.

Hey Look at the flying pigs ! Whole flock of them .

Followed by a procession of recent saintly US Presidents ? Amazing what you can throw up when indulging in 'whataboutism"

And again and again you refuse to engage the most salient points I made.

There is no way the Republician Party will rub psycho Santos out of Congress. He won. That is all that counts with the Repubs these days. They will ride through disgrace and like their new protege just call it embellishment and insist he is not a fraud. And they will do it because :

1) The far right Trumpians in Congress will literally die in a ditch to protect their right to have another Far Right colleague alongside them. In fact staying in Congress after such a monumental fraud will move the dial on shameless behaviour off the scales.

2) The remainder of the Republican party have now learnt that they can send in the shock troops to destroy all conventions and they can get away with it. There are no consequences.

Will you get upset and condemn the Repubs if they don't expel Santos and call for another election in the seat ? ( That's an entire squadron of flying pigs crossing the thread)

That in my view is what makes this whole episode so dangerous. I cannot see any equivalent in political history of a candidate winning an election through a complete farrago of lies about their history and then successfully holding their seat.

And by the way exactly what concerns are there about the repudiation of psycho Santos's CV ? Please explain.

 

[basilio]

The ABC has an excellent summary of the psycho Santos saga. Interestingly enough the (Republican) Nassau County DA is gunning for George Santos. There are some rapidly emerging issues around how he has suddenly become quite wealthy .

Nassau County District Attorney Anne T Donnelly, a Republican, said the fabrications and inconsistencies in Mr Santos's background were "nothing short of stunning".

"The residents of Nassau County and other parts of the third district must have an honest and accountable representative in Congress," she said.

"If a crime was committed in this county, we will prosecute it."
He still won't stand down and there is no indication at this the Republican party refuse to accept him.

'I said I was Jew-ish': Incoming US congressman under investigation for lies about his past

George Santos shows no signs of stepping aside — despite publicly admitting to lying about his ancestry, education, work history, property portfolio and more.

www.abc.net.au

 

[wayneL]

Hey Look at the flying pigs ! Whole flock of them .

Followed by a procession of recent saintly US Presidents ? Amazing what you can throw up when indulging in 'whataboutism"

And again and again you refuse to engage the most salient points I made.

There is no way the Republician Party will rub psycho Santos out of Congress. He won. That is all that counts with the Repubs these days. They will ride through disgrace and like their new protege just call it embellishment and insist he is not a fraud. And they will do it because :

1) The far right Trumpians in Congress will literally die in a ditch to protect their right to have another Far Right colleague alongside them. In fact staying in Congress after such a monumental fraud will move the dial on shameless behaviour off the scales.

2) The remainder of the Republican party have now learnt that they can send in the shock troops to destroy all conventions and they can get away with it. There are no consequences.

Will you get upset and condemn the Repubs if they don't expel Santos and call for another election in the seat ? ( That's an entire squadron of flying pigs crossing the thread)

That in my view is what makes this whole episode so dangerous. I cannot see any equivalent in political history of a candidate winning an election through a complete farrago of lies about their history and then successfully holding their seat.

And by the way exactly what concerns are there about the repudiation of psycho Santos's CV ? Please explain.

Straw man

I'm not a member of the Republican party, not even American. Discussion is for amusement value and I only care insomuch as we tend to import trends from the US.

...and as stated above, its not kosher (pun intended), he should be taken out. So take your straw man and stick it right up your <edited, Sorry Joe, but he deserved it>

But if you want an opinion from a real grass roots Republican American:

 

[basilio]

Straw man

I'm not a member of the Republican party, not even American. Discussion is for amusement value and I only care insomuch as we tend to import trends from the US.

...and as stated above, its not kosher (pun intended), he should be taken out. So take your straw man and stick it right up your flacid @55

But if you want an opinion from a real grass roots Republican American:

Clearly you don't bother to even check what I have said. I quoted Tulsi's interview and denunciation of psycho Santos in my first post on this topic.
Totally agree with her denunciation. But that counts for nothing if he is allowed to get away with his stories.

From a political perspective I think it would be better for the Republicans to attempt to look moral by refusing to accept him in Congress. From the look of the investigation that is going on into his finances he may end up being charged and booted out in a relatively short time.

 

[The Triangle]

Well, the public were told about this guy before the election, but unless the MSM pick up the stories... (Which they would have 15-20 years ago). The beauty of America is that he's better off today for this fraud. Even if he goes to jail he is going to come out and make millions for a Netflix special and dozens of TV interviews and a book deal.

Here is the original story from September casting doubt on Santos from September...

Santos Filings Now Claim Net Worth of $11 Million

By Maureen Daly Controversial US congressional candidate George Santos has finally filed his Personal Financial Disclosure Report on September 6th - 20 months late - and he is claiming an inexplicable rise in his alleged net worth to $11 million.. Two years ago, in 2020, Santos' personal...

www.theleaderonline.com

And the 'We told you so" follow-up this week.

The Leader Told You So: US Rep-Elect George Santos is a Fraud - and Wanted Criminal

By Niall Fitzgerald In a story first broken by the North Shore Leader over four months ago, the national media has suddenly discovered that US Congressman-elect George Santos (R-Queens / Nassau) - dubbed "George Scam-tos" by many local political observers - is a deepfake liar who has falsified...

www.theleaderonline.com

Anyways, the best part is that he reportedly took Russian money.

 

[basilio]

Well, the public were told about this guy before the election, but unless the MSM pick up the stories... (Which they would have 15-20 years ago). The beauty of America is that he's better off today for this fraud. Even if he goes to jail he is going to come out and make millions for a Netflix special and dozens of TV interviews and a book deal.

Here is the original story from September casting doubt on Santos from September...

Santos Filings Now Claim Net Worth of $11 Million

By Maureen Daly Controversial US congressional candidate George Santos has finally filed his Personal Financial Disclosure Report on September 6th - 20 months late - and he is claiming an inexplicable rise in his alleged net worth to $11 million.. Two years ago, in 2020, Santos' personal...

www.theleaderonline.com

And the 'We told you so" follow-up this week.

The Leader Told You So: US Rep-Elect George Santos is a Fraud - and Wanted Criminal

By Niall Fitzgerald In a story first broken by the North Shore Leader over four months ago, the national media has suddenly discovered that US Congressman-elect George Santos (R-Queens / Nassau) - dubbed "George Scam-tos" by many local political observers - is a deepfake liar who has falsified...

www.theleaderonline.com

Anyways, the best part is that he reportedly took Russian money.

Nice find. Certainly shows the breadth and depth of Psycho Santos. I would repeat my earlier observation. IMV it would make far more political sense for the Republicans to ditch him now and ask for a fresh election rather than waiting for what will be a very ugly investigation that will come up with the same outcome. While he is still in Congress he becomes another distraction that will fester, burst and undermine other lines of Republican attacks on the current administration.

Will he become a celebrity out of all this ? Maybe. Hopefully not. A decent 10-20 year stint in jail should cool him off.
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Even more serious are the huge financial claims made by Santos in his Federal Election filings and Personal Disclosures filed with the US government. Many of the reports - including an alleged "$600,000 loan" from Santos to his campaign - appear to be fake.

As do huge "disbursements" to Washington DC "consulting firms" that experienced Washington DC professionals say they have never heard of.

"Santos declared his net worth in 2020 to be 'less than $5,000,' but then made a $600,000 loan just a few months later - and now in 2022 he claims he's worth $11 million... it doesn't add up," stated one Long Island political operative.

Lying on federal financial disclosures is a federal criminal felony, with each violation facing up to five (5) years in federal prison.

....More disturbing are the connections that Santos does have. A recent report in the Daily Beast, Santos took some $56,000 from a Russian money man named Andrew Intrater - a cousin of Putin crony Viktor Vekselberg, who is under international sanctions.

After receiving the Russian money, Santos attacked Ukraine, claiming the government of Ukrainian President Zelensky was "fascist" and "totalitarian" and implicitly supporting the invasion by Russia. Under criticism, Santos later backtracked and then claimed he was actually "Jewish" and "Ukrainian."

The Leader Told You So: US Rep-Elect George Santos is a Fraud - and Wanted Criminal

By Niall Fitzgerald In a story first broken by the North Shore Leader over four months ago, the national media has suddenly discovered that US Congressman-elect George Santos (R-Queens / Nassau) - dubbed "George Scam-tos" by many local political observers - is a deepfake liar who has falsified...

www.theleaderonline.com

 

[moXJO]

No surprise here of course.

Please.. just point me in the direction of any Democrat candidate who has created such a comprehensive package of lies about their personal achievements to sell themselves to the voters.
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Biden.
Either you have a screw loose or you haven't kept track of "friendlies"

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THE VIEWS EXPRESSED BY CONTRIBUTORS ARE THEIR OWN AND NOT THE VIEW OF THE HILL

Lies, damned lies and the truth about Joe Biden​

BY LIZ PEEK, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR - 05/22/20 8:00 AM ET


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Nancy Pelosi dismissed Tara Reade’s accusations of sexual assault against Joe Biden. “I know him,” said the House Speaker authoritatively, and that was that.
Does Biden’s record warrant such confidence? Not really. In fact, Biden has a long history of lying — about himself, about his past and about events that never took place.
Democrats want the 2020 campaign to be a referendum on President Trump. Fine, but if this is to be a contest of characters, it is only appropriate that Joe Biden’s history of fabrication and deceit – often intended to bolster his intellectual credentials – also be fair game.
Over the past year, Biden thundered that the Obama administration “didn’t lock people up in cages.” He also claimed that, “Immediately, the moment [the Iraq War] started, I came out against it.” And… “I was always labeled one of the most liberal members of Congress.” Politico’s rating of all three assertions? False.
No one should be surprised. Lest we forget…
A video is making the rounds in which Biden boasts at a 1987 rally, “I went to law school on a full academic scholarship…[and] ended up in the top half of my class.”
Biden also maintained that he “graduated with three degrees from undergraduate school” and was the “outstanding student in the political science department.”
Not one of those claims was true, as newscasters at the time affirmed. In fact, Biden graduated 76th of 85 students in his law school class, had only a partial scholarship and did not win top honors in his undergraduate discipline.
Biden explained in his 2007 autobiography “Promises to Keep” that he had been angry at that rally since “it sounded to me that one of my own supporters doubted my intelligence.” According to a 1987 Newsweek piece, a supporter had “politely” asked Biden what law school he attended and how well he had done.
Biden bristled, saying “I think I have a much higher IQ than you do,” reeled off his fabricated accomplishments and concluded “I’d be delighted to sit down and compare my IQ to yours if you’d like, Frank.”
The episode reminds us of Biden recently snapping “You’re full of sh*t” at an auto worker who dared to challenge Biden’s stance on guns; or calling an Iowa voter a “damn liar” for insinuating that Biden had helped his son gain access in Ukraine.
The Newsweek reporter wrote that Biden appears “hyper, glib and intellectually insecure,” and says the 1987 encounter was critical to understanding why Biden’s first run at higher office flopped. “The clip…reflects a view of Biden’s character widely shared in the community. Reporters and political consultants long ago concluded that Biden’s chief character flaw was his tendency to wing it. He seems to lack a crucial synapse between brain and tongue, the one that makes the do-I-really-want-to-say-this decision.”
That commentary holds up well, as today more than ever Biden blunders into conversational crevasses, with no way out. (Think: “If they believe Tara Reade, they probably shouldn’t vote for me.” A new Harvard-Harris poll shows 55 percent of the country believes Tara Reade. Game. Set. Match.)
Biden’s 1987 campaign foundered also because he was caught lifting passages of a speech given by Neil Kinnock. Biden echoed (falsely) the British Labor leader’s history that he was the first “in a thousand generations” to graduate from college and repeated virtually verbatim the same story about his wife, just as Kinnock had.
More shocking, Biden claimed: “My ancestors…worked in the coal mines of Northeast Pennsylvania and would come up after 12 hours and play football for four hours,’’ even though no one in Biden’s family tree ever worked underground. That was Kinnock’s family.
It wasn’t the first time; Biden had also been caught plagiarizing during law school. He “borrowed” an entire five pages from a published law review article without attribution and had to beg not to be expelled.
Interestingly, just last summer complaints arose about Biden “borrowing” the work of others, in putting together his climate plan. As Vox reported, Biden’s plan “contains a number of passages that seem to have been copied and pasted, at times with very superficial changes” from a variety of sources.
Biden supporters will dismiss these episodes as being in the distant past. But Biden’s tendency to mislead did not expire in 1988. More recently, the former vice president has told audiences that after his stint in the White House, “I became a teacher. I became a professor.” While it is true that he took a lofty salary to make a handful of speeches for the University of Pennsylvania, Biden has never taught students.
Then there was the inspiring tale of visiting Afghanistan to honor a heroic naval officer. Biden described the officer’s actions in detail, adding, “This is God’s truth, my word as a Biden.” But according to a review in the Washington Post, no such incident occurred. Biden was lucky not to be hit by lightning.
There were also Biden’s claims of having been arrested in the 1970s because he tried to visit Nelson Mandela in prison. Nope, didn’t happen. He has also cast himself as a civil rights activist and co-sponsor of the Endangered Species Act; those things aren’t true either.
Character does not change. Biden’s winning smile and genial nature have granted him license to mislead. But as Biden denies alleged misdeeds related to General Flynn, to his son Hunter’s involvement in Ukraine or to Tara Reade, his history of bending the truth is informative.
Democrats will counter that President Trump frequently exaggerates and embellishes, which is true. But we know Trump; he has been on the griddle for nearly four years, and been continually stripped and flayed by a hostile press.
Many of us are just getting to know Joe Biden.

 

[DB008]

 

[basilio]

Biden.
Either you have a screw loose or you haven't kept track of "friendlies"

MoXjo I have no problem recognising that politicians will gild the lily on their achievements. That is the nature of self promotion. Success has many fathers . Failure is an orphan. When Democrats were banging on about Trumps complete disregard for reality finding some mud to throw back was essential

But trying to equivilate the comments about Joe Biden particularly when seen in the context of a long and generally well respected political career against Psycho Santos who has simply made up entire job histories, fabricated all his "educational achievements " and created a Jew-ish history from thin air to appeal to the Jewish community is ridiculous.

And those elements are just the start of his deceptions. MoXjo - if the Republican leaders seriously thought there was some sort of political comparison that could take the heat off their current tacit support of George Santos why aren't they saying it out loud ?

In fact there are strong suggestions that the Republicians were aware that George Santos was not what he claimed to be .

Did Republicans Know About George Santos Before the Election?

The race was neck and neck, but outside Republican groups put almost no cash into Santos’s election race. Shortly after, his biography fell apart.

theintercept.com

 

[wayneL]

Astonishing bias LMAO. This just the very first result from "Bidens lies" search

Have fun going through the rest

 

[basilio]

Astonishing bias LMAO. This just the very first result from "Bidens lies" search

Have fun going through the rest

Are you still trying to cobble together your troupe of flying pigs Wayne ?
Anything I suppose to divert attention.

But anyway while we are diverting attention from reality I thought this story is going to eat up a few of Trumps "lawyers" .
Apparently Trump has been supplying lawyers to represent his ex staff members at the Jan 6th inquiry. How these lawyers have behaved looks like taking them down the road to disbarment.

Cassidy Hutchinson transcript reveals new low for Trump World ​

by Steven Lubet, Opinion Contributor - 12/28/22 8:00 AM ET



As a low-level aide to Mark Meadows, then-President Trump’s chief of staff, Cassidy Hutchinson had been a witness to key events surrounding the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol, so it was only a matter of time until she received a subpoena from the House Select Committee investigating the attack. After interviewing several attorneys, including one who requested a $125,000 retainer, Hutchinson was eventually contacted by Stefan Passantino, who agreed to represent her and promised that she was “never going to get a bill.”

But there was a catch. Passantino was above all a creature of “Trump World.” According to Hutchinson’s later description of their relationship, he consistently put Trump’s (and Meadows’s) interests ahead of Hutchinson’s, violating multiple rules of legal ethics and possibly committing a federal crime.

.....Passantino has denied wrongdoing, telling CNN that he “represented Ms. Hutchinson honorably, ethically and fully consistent with her sole interests as she communicated them to me.” Hutchinson agrees that he never directly asked her to lie. Instead, he told her that “You’re not lying if you say you don’t recall.”

Nonetheless, the House Select Committee on Jan. 6 has issued a statement expressing its “substantial concerns regarding potential efforts to obstruct its investigation, including by certain counsel (some paid by groups connected to the former president) who may have advised clients to provide false or misleading testimony to the committee,” and urging “the Department of Justice to examine the facts to discern whether prosecution is warranted.”

Passantino may well be called to explain himself before a grand jury. He can invoke his Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination, as have so many other Trump-connected witnesses, but that will not help him in an attorney disciplinary proceeding.

Unlike judges and juries in criminal cases, a disciplinary panel may draw an “adverse inference” from a lawyer’s assertion of the Fifth Amendment, concluding that a truthful answer would be incriminating. In the words of Passantino’s expressive young client, he’s “f—ed.”

Cassidy Hutchinson transcript reveals new low for Trump World

Passantino’s conduct was not merely unethical; it may also have been a federal crime.

thehill.com

 

[wayneL]

LMAO. This belongs in the lunatic left thread. I rest my case.

 

[moXJO]

MoXjo I have no problem recognising that politicians will gild the lily on their achievements. That is the nature of self promotion. Success has many fathers . Failure is an orphan. When Democrats were banging on about Trumps complete disregard for reality finding some mud to throw back was essential

But trying to equivilate the comments about Joe Biden particularly when seen in the context of a long and generally well respected political career against Psycho Santos who has simply made up entire job histories, fabricated all his "educational achievements " and created a Jew-ish history from thin air to appeal to the Jewish community is ridiculous.

And those elements are just the start of his deceptions. MoXjo - if the Republican leaders seriously thought there was some sort of political comparison that could take the heat off their current tacit support of George Santos why aren't they saying it out loud ?

In fact there are strong suggestions that the Republicians were aware that George Santos was not what he claimed to be .

Did Republicans Know About George Santos Before the Election?

The race was neck and neck, but outside Republican groups put almost no cash into Santos’s election race. Shortly after, his biography fell apart.

theintercept.com

I don't like any politicians. The majority are self serving tossers that in no way represent us.

I'm not sure why you are saying that Bidens lies are any better?
He has a huge list of lies that were worse than Santos.

 

[basilio]

I don't like any politicians. The majority are self serving tossers that in no way represent us.

I'm not sure why you are saying that Bidens lies are any better?
He has a huge list of lies that were worse than Santos.

Well that's a great little troll aint it Moxy
Can we put that down as THE most audacious, Trumpiest, load of steaming merde seen this side of the Lord of BS himself ?
I reckon it stands on the pinnacle of BS and then just takes off into outer reality.

Stands up there with Wayney dismissing witness tampering by lawyers as lunatic left fodder.