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SirRumpole said:
It seems one can now be arrested for dressing the same as someone else and getting on a train.

Did these people commit any acts of violence ?

Who did they "offend" and why?

As far as I could see they were quiet and exercising their rights of lawful assembly and weren't bothering anyone.

If they were indigenous protestors would they get the same treatment?

Did police overstep the mark?

www.abc.net.au

NSW premier condemns 'neo-Nazi demonstration' for 'importing hate' in latest gathering

A "neo-Nazi demonstration" takes place in Artarmon Reserve, the third day in a row a similar gathering has occurred in Sydney.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
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They most probably will be charged with incitement.

Public Threats of Violence or Incitement to Violence​

"Inciting violence" means saying or doing things that urge other people to do acts of violence.
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A "public act" includes any way of communicating to the public. It includes:

- Speaking, writing, displaying notices, playing recorded material, broadcasting;

- Social media and other electronic methods of communication;

- Any other acts the public can see. For example, actions, gestures, wearing or displaying clothing, signs, flags, emblems and insignia;
- Spreading or sending anything to the public.

A "public act" can happen on private land
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Also, perhaps the group were testing the anti neo-Nazi laws, you know, to see how far they can push and get away with?

From the below link, one could determine that the group, individually and as a whole was a Nazi symbol.

Display of Nazi symbol now a jailable offence in NSW​

Thanks to these individuals, whatever the charges, NSW will most likely strengthen/amend such laws and legislation.
 
Knobby22 said:
Yea, you are a young Indian girl in a train carriage with 30 young blokes dressed in black with faces hidden and carrying white supremist banners.

And they are the good guys.
World has not gone that mad yet in Australia.
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Welp, she probably won't be sexually harassed :p
 
Knobby22 said:
Purely public transport rules.
Next time hire a bus.
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As a technicality, are those PT rules actual laws as imposed by government that automatically apply to any PT service regardless of what policies the operators may have?

Are are they just the conditions of travel as imposed by the train operator and not laws as such?
 
Smurf1976 said:
As a technicality, are those PT rules actual laws as imposed by government that automatically apply to any PT service regardless of what policies the operators may have?

Are are they just the conditions of travel as imposed by the train operator and not laws as such?
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Good question. Probably a mix.
 
Smurf1976 said:
As a technicality, are those PT rules actual laws as imposed by government that automatically apply to any PT service regardless of what policies the operators may have?

Are are they just the conditions of travel as imposed by the train operator and not laws as such?
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Knobby22 said:
Good question. Probably a mix.
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NSW Legislation - Passenger Transport (General) Regulation 2017

Part 5
Division 2 Conduct generally
50 No offensive behaviour or language (My bold)
A person must not, in or on a public passenger vehicle or train or in a public area—
(a) behave in an offensive manner, or
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(b) use any offensive language, or
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(c) wilfully interfere with the comfort or safety of other persons, or
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(d) put any of the person’s feet on a seat, or
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(e) spit.
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Neo nazis or left wing loonies, who knows, well the media of course.

www.theage.com.au

Police chief slams ‘ugly rabble’ taking on police at Pride March

Shane Patton said officers marching in Sunday’s annual Midsumma Pride March showed restraint when paint was thrown at them and police were called killers.
www.theage.com.au www.theage.com.au

The head of Victoria Police has issued a scathing rebuke to protesters at Sunday’s Midsumma Pride March in Melbourne, describing them as an “ugly rabble” for throwing paint, calling police killers and blocking the officers’ path in the parade.

Chief Commissioner Shane Patton, who led the police contingent in the march of about 100 officers, some of whom brought children as young as three, said he had “nothing but contempt” for the group of about 50 demonstrators.

The protesters, some of whom were wearing pig masks with a police cap, confronted police at close range as they marched down Fitzroy Street in St Kilda. They walked around them, threw pink paint at them and chanted “cops kill queers”.
Video posted on Instagram captured scuffles that erupted as protesters tried to halt police from marching by standing in their way, with police pushing them back.

At a press conference after the march, Patton said: “Police were trying to push them away and unfortunately, there will be footage that shows that occurring and it looks confrontational and that shouldn’t be the case.”
An Instagram account called queerkilljoys that invited people to go to Pride March, and another account called transqueersolidarity said in a post that for police to march was “pink washing”
”This is pinkwashing: the practice of falsely projecting a pro-LGBTQIA+ image to disguise an institution’s complicity in oppression,” it said.
But Patton slammed the protesters as “an ugly rabble, a group who came there obviously with intent to confront, and if not to attack police, to threaten them”
 
SirRumpole said:
It seems one can now be arrested for dressing the same as someone else and getting on a train.

Did these people commit any acts of violence ?

Who did they "offend" and why?

As far as I could see they were quiet and exercising their rights of lawful assembly and weren't bothering anyone.

If they were indigenous protestors would they get the same treatment?

Did police overstep the mark?

www.abc.net.au

NSW premier condemns 'neo-Nazi demonstration' for 'importing hate' in latest gathering

A "neo-Nazi demonstration" takes place in Artarmon Reserve, the third day in a row a similar gathering has occurred in Sydney.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
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If only we had parliaments that are based on an iota of merit rather than 100% equity. Even the calling them Premiers or Prime Ministers is a misnomer these days; many of them preoccupied with victimhood and race baiting for votes and personal narcisism.

It's a wonder the school system hasn't mandated boys wear skirts, platt the hair on their Dolls during lunch break and take courses in male guilt for a future life of being a stepford husband.

We need to take back the farm ;)
 
Tisme said:
If only we had parliaments that are based on an iota of merit rather than 100% equity. Even the calling them Premiers or Prime Ministers is a misnomer these days; many of them preoccupied with victimhood and race baiting for votes and personal narcisism.

It's a wonder the school system hasn't mandated boys wear skirts, platt the hair on their Dolls during lunch break and take courses in male guilt for a future life of being a stepford husband.

We need to take back the farm ;)
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Well I've got the farm, won't wear a skirt, won't play with dolls ( only real ones though), and definitely will not be partaking in guilt courses.
Just a true blue, red blooded Aussie male.
 
The new 'Straya

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SirRumpole said:
NSW Government orders "offensive" rego plate to be surrendered.

So what if this person was Jewish and the plate was a "commemoration" of the event?

Politicians shooting from the hip are offensive imo.

www.abc.net.au

Chris Minns lambasts 'sick person' using 'OCT7TH' number plates as Sydney motorist is ordered to surrender them

NSW Premier Chris Minns says the 'OCT7TH' number plates spotted on a white ute are "disgusting" and were issued in error.
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Obviously, some over zealous bureaucrat with very little to do.
 
Would FEB22ND garner the same response?
Probably not besides, when I saw that article and the rego #, I immediately thought of a rellie's b/day.
 
Funny how it is ok to be offensive to Christians, but completely out of bounds with any other culture or religion, we are certainly a strange country.
From todays SMH:
www.smh.com.au

Scotty from Sunday school lays it on thick in final sermon

Scott Morrison presented many faces during his political career and his final parliamentary persona was that of preacher.
www.smh.com.au www.smh.com.au


I wonder how it would go down if a muslim politician, was called e.g Mohamed from the mosque.
It wouldn't be acceptable, as many would see it is as being disrespectful, I certainly would see it that way.
Funny how it is o.k to be offensive, as long as it's the loonies having a go at a Christian.
I guess offensive innuendo, is dependent on who you are directing it at and who is delivering it . :rolleyes:
 
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sptrawler said:
Funny how it is ok to be offensive to Christians, but completely out of bounds with any other culture or religion, we are certainly a strange country.
From todays SMH:
www.smh.com.au

Scotty from Sunday school lays it on thick in final sermon

Scott Morrison presented many faces during his political career and his final parliamentary persona was that of preacher.
www.smh.com.au www.smh.com.au


I wonder how it would go down if a muslim politician, was called e.g Mohamed from the mosque.
It wouldn't be acceptable, as many would see it is as being disrespectful, I certainly would see it that way.
Funny how it is o.k to be offensive, as long as it's the loonies having a go at a Christian.
I guess offensive innuendo, is dependent on who you are directing it at and who is delivering it . :rolleyes:
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It's okay, there are the beatitudes, esp.

"11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you."

;)
 
wayneL said:
It's okay, there are the beatitudes, esp.

"11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you."

;)
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I just find it funny how these self opinionated pratts in the media, tell everyone else how to behave, while they themselves carry on about people anyway they like.
It was like a while back when Lisa Wilkinson was complaining about the way the media was hounding her, I mean really, don't these people have any self awareness at all.
Is a lack of self appraisal, a pre requisite to be employed in the media? :rolleyes:
 
sptrawler said:
I just find it funny how these self opinionated pratts in the media, tell everyone else how to behave, while they themselves carry on about people anyway they like.
It was like a while back when Lisa Wilkinson was complaining about the way the media was hounding her, I mean really, don't these people have any self awareness at all.
Is a lack of self appraisal, a pre requisite to be employed in the media? :rolleyes:
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who needs self awareness when you can hire a lawyer
 

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