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NTU - Northern Minerals

Re: NTU - Northern Uranium

The alarm bells are ringing.

"On 7 September two Japanese coast guard vessels and a Chinese fishing trawler collided in an area of the East China Sea that Japan controls but China claims sovereignty over. The crew has been released but Japan is still holding the captain, believing he deliberately rammed their boats after being ordered to stop fishing in the disputed waters.

It is the Chinese retaliation that has alarmed not just the Japanese. It has banned exports of rare earths to Japan.

The use of China's dominance of rare earths as negotiating leverage in the non-commercial dispute with Japan will confirm the reservations in the West about the danger of allowing China to retain that dominance.

There were already concerns about the rationale for the cut to export quotas earlier this year, with the cynical interpreting it as an attempt by the Chinese to ensure that its control of their processing was extended to manufacture of the finished products, helping to push its own manufacturing up the value-add chain.

The threat to Japan's industrial base caused the Japanese to start stockpiling reserves. In the US, where the widespread use of rare earths in military applications adds another strategic dimension, there has been talk of subsiding the re-opening of production that was shut down by a combination of low prices and low-cost competition from China a decade ago.

If the export quotas provide motivation for China's customers to look for supply elsewhere, the embargo of exports to Japan adds urgency now that it is clear China is prepared to use its dominance in a geopolitical context."

Above is part of an article from;

http://www.businessspectator.com.au...Ferrous-pd20100923-9K9AY?OpenDocument&src=sph

These types of news items keep coming up and while they do then the interest in rare earths will keep increasing.
 
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According to NTU's prospectus Ux is their drilling priority as rated by their budgeting. I fundamentally don't understand prioritizing Ux over HREE!?!

Sure, it's best to invest when a commodity has (is finished) tanking; but how about the notion of going after HREEs when most don't know these substaces, and their value, even exist?!

I'm going to have to look into NTU, and anything they have on HREEs, beyond LYC's/Chinese endorsement, to see if there's "hidden" shareholder value... Must be? Nevertheless, I am disappointed. Which brings me to another investing acorn, "be buying when everyone's crying."

Ah well, there's gold for now.

SX
 
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announcement out folks poor uranium results, now nil mention of uranium exploration in 2011, and now gold and REE exploration in 2011.

:eek:
 
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announcement out folks poor uranium results, now nil mention of uranium exploration in 2011, and now gold and REE exploration in 2011.

:eek:

I've had a rough ride with these guys. Bought at 32c, accidently triggered them at 30c. And gut feeling told me to rebuy at 42.5, 38.5 and 36.5.

Happy to sit on a loss and wait. It's only my first year of trading. Maybe I should stick to the 4 big banks and get divi's.
 
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I've had a rough ride with these guys. Bought at 32c, accidently triggered them at 30c. And gut feeling told me to rebuy at 42.5, 38.5 and 36.5.

Happy to sit on a loss and wait. It's only my first year of trading. Maybe I should stick to the 4 big banks and get divi's.

NTU's future, as far as i am concerned, is tied up in rare earths. If drill results confirm the values that are expected then they are a great asset at the right time. The company must think so also as they are going to have a change of name without the "uranium" being mentioned. The fact that Lynas have taken a significant holding means a lot. The rare earth composition looks like being heavily composed of the more rare rare earths and ones that are not so abundant in the Mt Weld ore that is Lynas's main supply. With Lynas being the forerunner in this business their holding adds value to NTU.

A little patience is required and there is some risk as there is with all prospecting miners but the rewards may be there for those that can afford a little risk.

I hold a reasonable number of NTU and I have no intention of selling at this stage. I hold only for the rare earth. Any value from uranium would be a bonus.
 
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NTU's future, as far as i am concerned, is tied up in rare earths. If drill results confirm the values that are expected then they are a great asset at the right time. The company must think so also as they are going to have a change of name without the "uranium" being mentioned. The fact that Lynas have taken a significant holding means a lot. The rare earth composition looks like being heavily composed of the more rare rare earths and ones that are not so abundant in the Mt Weld ore that is Lynas's main supply. With Lynas being the forerunner in this business their holding adds value to NTU.

A little patience is required and there is some risk as there is with all prospecting miners but the rewards may be there for those that can afford a little risk.

I hold a reasonable number of NTU and I have no intention of selling at this stage. I hold only for the rare earth. Any value from uranium would be a bonus.

Feedback is certainly appreciated. I'm thinking of selling and re-adjusting my position. Trying to get a lower entry price. That fact Lynas holds around 10% comforts me
 
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LYC is a tenbagger plus IF you bought all your holding at the bottom and held till now. This is the difference in paper trades and actually being in the market. In fact my first purchase in LYC was around 37c and I bought again on the way up to 72c. I then followed it down to the bottom averaging down and have bought on the way up as far as 83c. That way I am a bit off a ten bagger.

Not many investors can invest at the bottom and hold till the top but I do see your point. I did however get into NTU near the bottom with a fair number, will not be adding and will hold long term so maybe it will be the ten bagger.

Just out of Interest nioka... Are you still holding your Lynas @ 37 cents? Have been following your posts carefully. Will NTU miss the rare earth boat as they aren't producing? Will ARU affect this 10 bag play if they are producing too?
 
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Just out of Interest nioka... Are you still holding your Lynas @ 37 cents? Have been following your posts carefully. Will NTU miss the rare earth boat as they aren't producing? Will ARU affect this 10 bag play if they are producing too?

Yes I still hold LYC. It will never be a ten bagger for me because I am still averaging up. There is so much manipulation of the SP that it keeps giving out great trading opportunities. Especially "Buy Friday/ Sell Monday" trades.

With NTU I am buying the options now as they are better priced than the heads, working out a cent or two cheaper at this stage. That gives a chance to lever for better numbers without margin borrowing rates. They are probably priced that way because some investors are probably expecting to get an SPP issue at a cheaper rate. That may even the score in the long run but I'll take the risk with the options as being the best bet.

With LYC having an interest in NTU I doubt that NTU will miss the boat. They may even end up beating ARU to profitability. They have (hopefully) heavier rare earths that may make LYC get them into concentrate production very early in the piece. The heavy rare earths are the more valuable and more saleable.:2twocents
 
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Yes I still hold LYC. It will never be a ten bagger for me because I am still averaging up. There is so much manipulation of the SP that it keeps giving out great trading opportunities. Especially "Buy Friday/ Sell Monday" trades.

With NTU I am buying the options now as they are better priced than the heads, working out a cent or two cheaper at this stage. That gives a chance to lever for better numbers without margin borrowing rates. They are probably priced that way because some investors are probably expecting to get an SPP issue at a cheaper rate. That may even the score in the long run but I'll take the risk with the options as being the best bet.

With LYC having an interest in NTU I doubt that NTU will miss the boat. They may even end up beating ARU to profitability. They have (hopefully) heavier rare earths that may make LYC get them into concentrate production very early in the piece. The heavy rare earths are the more valuable and more saleable.:2twocents

That's awesome to hear nioka, soothes my soul a little bit because I just bought the ntuoa options. Are you waiting till September or March year to exercise your options?
 
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That's awesome to hear nioka, soothes my soul a little bit because I just bought the ntuoa options. Are you waiting till September or March year to exercise your options?

I doubt that I will still have them by that date. When they get ahead of the fully paid less the conversion price I will "convert" them by trading for the fully paids.
 
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I doubt that I will still have them by that date. When they get ahead of the fully paid less the conversion price I will "convert" them by trading for the fully paids.

I am not sure what you mean, so what happens is if I hold to exercise date I get a choice to hold or convert?

Say if I have 30000 NTUOA options, once I sell them I will have NTU shares and then can sell them?

How much does the conversion cost?
 
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I am not sure what you mean, so what happens is if I hold to exercise date I get a choice to hold or convert?

Say if I have 30000 NTUOA options, once I sell them I will have NTU shares and then can sell them?

How much does the conversion cost?

NTUOA 20c conversion. NTUOB 15c conversion. They could be converted any time but they are not due for conversion at this stage. They are options to buy at that price before a particular date.
 
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NTUOA 20c conversion. NTUOB 15c conversion. They could be converted any time but they are not due for conversion at this stage. They are options to buy at that price before a particular date.

When are you converting NIOKA?
 
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When are you converting NIOKA?

I doubt that I will still have them at conversion time butdefinitely not before the due date. I will probably trade them for head stock when they are valued well above the head stock after taking into consideration the amount to be paid.
 
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I doubt that I will still have them at conversion time butdefinitely not before the due date. I will probably trade them for head stock when they are valued well above the head stock after taking into consideration the amount to be paid.

I am so sorry for bothering you, I really didn't understand what that meant? Say I have 30000 NTUOA options and I bought them for 22.5cents how can I sell them for the most profit?
 
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I am so sorry for bothering you, I really didn't understand what that meant? Say I have 30000 NTUOA options and I bought them for 22.5cents how can I sell them for the most profit?

Today the SP is such that it would be profitable to convert them to fully paid then sell. That is not usually the case with options nor may it be the case next week. Usually the options attract a premium. Normally people just trade or hold the options until it is time for the payment to be made or the option lapses. What you have is an option to buy the share at a given price at any time before the expiry date. :2twocents
 
It has been some time since there has been posts on NTU. Firstly a name change from Northern Uranium to Northern Minerals. The name change reflects the change in the direction that the company is taking. Rare earths are now the focus although the uranium potential still exists. The future for NTU rests on the results of the rare earth drilling and assays.

This didn't stop the companies SP from some drastic falls following the Japanese disaster and the questions it asks regarding the safety of uranium fuelled power stations. The SP appears to be recovering. I'll continue to hold while ever Lynas continues to hold or some poor drilling results frighten me away.:2twocents
 
It has been some time since there has been posts on NTU. Firstly a name change from Northern Uranium to Northern Minerals. The name change reflects the change in the direction that the company is taking. Rare earths are now the focus although the uranium potential still exists. The future for NTU rests on the results of the rare earth drilling and assays.

This didn't stop the companies SP from some drastic falls following the Japanese disaster and the questions it asks regarding the safety of uranium fuelled power stations. The SP appears to be recovering. I'll continue to hold while ever Lynas continues to hold or some poor drilling results frighten me away.:2twocents

after watching this stock for a few months, had been tempted to invest.. But thought i missed the run so i just held off, then when it tanked after the JED, I was going to jump in and I didnt.. silly me.. :banghead:

will keep watching
 
Very tidy from a technical viewpoint, an impressive bounce from around 0.40 post-Japan earthquake. I like that sort of resilience in a stock. Been following for a while.

Looks like NTU choosing to emphasize REE over U was a good call. Many thanks to posters keeping us informed - especially Nioka.

NTU probably attracting some other Lynas refugees like me this morning.
 
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