You're right pilots. The problem with Peter Garrett is that it's a bit hard to distinguish his head from his bum.
Good points. Practical solution involving everyone.Ruby is on the right track.....put rainwater tanks on every house, with government subsiding the cost.
Tanks wouldn't entirely solve the water shortage but they'd certainly relieve it. It's surprising how little rain it takes to fill a tank. And it's surprising how many times it rains, even during a drought.
Bad points. The natural beauty of Fraser Island need not be further destroyed. Have to draw a line in the sand there.And free up natural water supplies that are tied up by the bloody greenies. Julia makes a good point about the abundance of fresh water on Fraser Island. Just a small portion of that water piped to the mainland would go a long way towards supplying the water needs of south east Queensland.
And it could be done without upsetting the eco system on Fraser Island and in the surrounding ocean.
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hey Sdajii
there's no place for scientists in SE Qld apparently
Good points. Practical solution involving everyone.
Bad points. The natural beauty of Fraser Island need not be further destroyed. Have to draw a line in the sand there.
Julia, this is the thinking we have to leave behind. Sucking megalitres of water from a spring is a short term solution and will not last forever.That's a bit silly. Why would it compromise the beauty of Fraser Island to put an undersea pipeline from the outlet at Eli Creek over to the mainland?
You'd never see the damn thing. You'd still have all the freshwater lakes and everything else just as it always has been on the Island itself.
since we're splitting hairs, what's your expertise Calliope?He told us he was a biologist. There was no mention that he was also an expert in Surface-Water Hydrology and rainfall patterns. I hope they can use his scientific expertise wherever he is now. Our loss is their gain.
since we're splitting hairs, what's your expertise Calliope?
Sorry Julia but if Homo Stupid wants to increase numbers beyond what the environment will support then I have no pity nor solution. Consuming everything thing in their path like a slow moving plague of locusts. Leaving behind a desolate wasteland strewn with carcasses from the gluttonous feed.The water just pours into the open sea. It doesn't recirculate back to where it came from!!
"Do better with what we have"? When the population is going to quadruple in the foreseeable future? Get a grip.
Picking phonies.
great post wys,... Consuming everything thing in their path like a slow moving plague of locusts...
Sorry Julia but if Homo Stupid wants to increase numbers beyond what the environment will support then I have no pity nor solution. Consuming everything thing in their path like a slow moving plague of locusts. Leaving behind a desolate wasteland strewn with carcasses from the gluttonous feed.
Can I join the Calliope, noco, julia club now? Or do I need to be more self-centered?
and you need to have a rose garden that is far more important than some farmer's livelihood.Can I join the Calliope, noco, julia club now? Or do I need to be more self-centered?
Julia, this is the thinking we have to leave behind. Sucking megalitres of water from a spring is a short term solution and will not last forever.
The whole fresh water usage system may need a complete overhaul. Do better with what we have is my belief.
What about the path across Fraser Island to the water. The bee line would need to be wide enough for the pipe laying of diameter unknown. Maybe chainsaws and bulldozer for this. Then the infrastructure at the take off point. All this concrete, steel, plastics, rubber etc. are there permanently. Even after the last drop from source has gone. Natural wonders are places where man shall go to observe and shall be preserved for eternity.Wys......
You didn't answer Julia's question, which was 'Why would it compromise the beauty of Fraser Island to put an undersea pipeline from the outlet at Eli Creek over to the mainland?'
The water just pours into the open sea. It doesn't recirculate back to where it came from!!
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Yes, of course it is. No one has ever considered bulldozers and other such dramatic intervention as you have suggested.note ... it may be the run-off to ocean you are thinking of capturing?
It's by invitation only, Gamblor.I say we need all the dams we can build and we should also take as much water from other areas as we can. To hell with the consequences, I should be able to wash my cars and have showers for as long as I want.
Can I join the Calliope, noco, julia club now? Or do I need to be more self-centered?
If the water is already flowing down a river and into the sea then there's absolutely no possibility that putting it into a pipe instead will somehow use it all up. If it's going to run out then it's going to run out anyway since it's already flowing down the river.What about the path across Fraser Island to the water. The bee line would need to be wide enough for the pipe laying of diameter unknown. Maybe chainsaws and bulldozer for this. Then the infrastructure at the take off point. All this concrete, steel, plastics, rubber etc. are there permanently. Even after the last drop from source has gone. Natural wonders are places where man shall go to observe and shall be preserved for eternity.
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