michael_selway
Coal & Phosphate, thats it!
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rederob said:Agreed.
Except that if you look at equity prices v's nickel you will note a disparity.
Equities have already tailed off in anticipation.
I think nickel will drop below $20k quite quickly (after the bubble bursts), but probably consolidate around that level unless supply rebounds strongly.
In the interim, benchmark LME prices will guarantee that producers will reap in this quarter the highest returns received in a generation. And these profits will feed into bottom line profits.
Accordingly, I anticipate nickel producers will be re-rated by analysts and this is likely to feed into "accumulation" and higher equity prices in months to come.
I read what analysts say, but I do my own research.michael_selway said:See the thing is, brokers/analysts never value a stock based one 1 years return, not matter how good it is. Thats why Mine Life is important
This quarter they earn heaps more, but what about average for the year? what about next year? and the next? are there any risks?
These issues will used to value these companies etc
thx
MS
I got into AGM....make your research.......bought 200k at 30cents....going into production at end of year....SP will be rerated....brokers have 60cents as value....commentsCanOz said:Infrastructure development in China will certainly drive metals pricing...Zinc is the one that i feel (like many others) will outperform others. Nickel too i feel will continue to be in strong demand.
Iron ore demand will decrease as China becomes a net exporter.
You are right most undervalued SP ...As soon as production starts look out this SP will be in the $1 range...not long now ...read what was said as production will commence earlier in the 2007 year....good find....got a swag of themsavtin said:Chicken,
I have been with AGM for several years, waiting for the market to wake up to its value......it is still very cheap at these prices and you are very lucky to be able to buy in at that price.....1 year from now the SP will be in the dollar range.............that is if it is not taken over...........a VERY REAL POSSIBILITY......great assets. Their reserves thus far are tip of the ice berg stuff.
cheers
savtin
Now now chickenchicken said:You are right most undervalued SP ...As soon as production starts look out this SP will be in the $1 range...not long now ...read what was said as production will commence earlier in the 2007 year....good find....got a swag of them
rederob said:However, like many companies that are yet to achieve cash flow, there is likely to be an opportunity to pick up AGS quite cheaply again once the inevitable nickel price correction occurs.
michael_selway said:Alot of "ins" again for Copper & Nickel
http://yahoo.reuters.com/news/artic...9-04_16-46-07_L04194943&type=comktNews&rpc=44
thx
MS
Nickel shortage? Not according to France’s Eramet Metals Insider - 8 September 2006
Not everyone is convinced that the recent liquidity squeeze on the London Metal Exchange””a direct function of historically low stock levels””was a reflection of the global market’s supply-demand dynamics. French producer Eramet warned in its H1 results released yesterday that “the physical market should be close to equilibrium in 2006, which could mean a return by nickel prices to lower levels at any time.” It attributes the recent surge in prices over July and August to “strong speculation”. This is in fact a repeat of what the company has already said several times in the last couple of months and it’s worth emphasising that Eramet’s is something of a minority view among nickel market analysts and producers. Canadian producer Inco has said it expects the market to record a deficit of 30,000t this year, while the World Bureau of Metal Statistics has estimated it recorded a 38,000t deficit in the first six months alone, although this is right at the top end of assessments to the best of our knowledge.
rederob said:Now now chicken
Allegiance hope to find someone to process ore prior to 3rd quarter 2007.
If they do, that would be excellent, although is still about 6 months away.
I agree the company has significant value, and should reward long term holders handsomely over time.
However, like many companies that are yet to achieve cash flow, there is likely to be an opportunity to pick up AGS quite cheaply again once the inevitable nickel price correction occurs.
I wish you and the other faithful holders many happy returns.
MSmichael_selway said:Rederob what do u think of this? Strong Speculation = fake buying?
MS
In relation to nickel's "ins", it is a pleasing sign."Investors use so-called credit-default swaps to insure debt payments or bet on credit quality. Demand surged this week for swaps protecting payments by General Motors Corp. 'Risk concentration remains high,' said Ian Linnell at Fitch in London. 'In the event that there was a major default, for instance General Motors, and then one of the major dealers also defaulted, the market would be in major trouble.'"
"Credit-default swaps are the fastest growing part of the $270 trillion derivatives market, based on the so-called notional value of the debts that underlie the contracts, according to the Bank for International Settlements. The default swaps market worldwide jumped 60 percent to $10.2 trillion in the first half of 2005, the BIS said in a report yesterday."
"In a credit-default swap, the buyer pays an annual premium to guard against a borrower's failing to pay its debts. In the event of default, the buyer gets paid the full amount insured, and hands over defaulted loans or bonds to the swap seller. Swap prices typically decline when creditworthiness improves, and rise when it worsens."
Mosesmoses said:AGM or AGS?
Allegience Mining and Alliance Resources; I think Chicken was talking about AGM.
You are right I am talking about AGM.....starting NOV2006 production in 4 weeks..they are using or working with someone for till their own plant is installed as fas as AGS...that is a Uranium play..have bought and sold a few times....AGM..thats where I hold over 200k shares...looking better everyday...capper still buying....see 32cents at present....but when we see production starting...PRICE per share?......I bought ....LOLOchicken said:I got into AGM....make your research.......bought 200k at 30cents....going into production at end of year....SP will be rerated....brokers have 60cents as value....comments
Check out AGM...their latest news....production to start..mine ready in Tasmania..all ready to roll..see their presentation today in Sydney...Mining conference...at 33cents...what more can I say..bought more today...mlennox said:Bloomberg reports nickel hits new record high in early trading today. Forbes reports $13.73/lb for 3 month ($30,250/tonne) was hit earlier today. The $30,000/tonne barrier had been breeched for the first time in history on Aug 24th of this year.
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