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my NRL stats...tb...(after the 1st 4 games this round)

Rank. Tipster Score 2258.Tigerboi 17
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Tipping success rate::D Dragons 100% :DRabbitohs 100% Roosters 100% Raiders 75% Knights 75% Broncos 75% Bulldogs 75% Cowboys 60% Panthers 60% Storm 60% Tigers 50% Warriors 50% Titans 40% Sea Eagles 40% Eels 40% Sharks 25%
 
jj, johnny raper turned 59 yesterday & you could do with a player just 10% of his ability...for your glory days go here ol' mate...memories...tb
http://www.showroom.com.au/dragons/dragonshistory/history_stgeorge4b.htm

http://www.bestlegenz.com.au/Ambassadors.html

http://www.bestlegenz.com.au/Chook.html

Baths babes in '79,who did harry bath play for in sydney?......,he played most of his career in the old dart...tb

ive seen parts of this game & they reckon it was the best game raper ever played...

It had been 51 years since McKivat's 1911-12 side returned home with the Ashes. Some claimed that Australia had never won the Ashes in England, as McKivat's side was "Australiasia" and included four New Zealanders.
That argument was over by the end of the 1963/64 tour - Australia had by then won the Ashes! Under the leadership combination of Arthur Summons and Ian Walsh, the Kangaroos finally produced the result that Australia had been yearning for.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The side was arguably the best ever Kangaroo side and included Gasnier, Hambly, Irvine, Johns, Kelly, Langlands, Raper, Michael Cleary, Peter Dimond, Earl Harrison, Paul Quinn and the Thornett brothers, Dick and Ken. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Kangaroos opened the Test series with their biggest ever win over Britain (by 28-2). The Aussies scored four tries in the second half, three were from deep in their own territory. The magical Gasnier claimed three of his team's tries. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The 2nd Test saw the Kangaroos claim their Holy Grail - they won the Ashes. The didn't just win, it was a rout. The thrashing that ensued on the field that day led to changes in the rules to again allow the use of replacements. The Kangaroos always dominated the game, but when the British lost Ashton and Myler to injury, watching an 11 man team struggle was not a pretty scene. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Kangaroos won by 50-12, scoring twelve tries - nine of which involved Johnny Raper in one of the greatest individual performances ever seen in a rugby league Test match. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The 3rd Test was the complete opposite - Britain won (by 16-5) and football was replaced by brawling and thuggery. Both sides were guilty in producing one of the worst Tests of the game's history. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The French leg of the tour ended with Australia winning the deciding 3rd Test in an entertaining match by 16-8. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Arriving home at Sydney Airport there were 1000 fans on hand. On the steps of the Town Hall 10,000 supporters paid tribute to the team[/FONT]​


its not easy from the selections you are allowed,such as beetson in the front or 2nd row,fulton centre or 5/8...you can chop & change...heres my team...tb

1.langlands
2.grothe
3.messenger
4.gasnier
5.irvine
6.fulton
7.a.johns
8.roach
9.sandy pearce
10.beetson
11.Mc carthy
12.burge
13.raper

14.sattler
15.wally lewis
16.ray price
17.webcke

captain:bob fulton
coach frank stanton

got til the 16th of april,i think the combo of roach,mc carthy,beetson needs tweaking,but its not easy...go try it...tb

3 saints champs in there jj,raper,changa,gasnier,only saw chang as a kid play & he was a great no 1...
 
or there is a chance that matt head could come into the no.7 out of reserve grade...tigers by 10

Matt head has a great short kicking game,when he can stay fit & healthy...this is the type of no.7 we need not john morris who has a woeful kicking game,it wont surprise me if we score at least 3 tries of heads pin point accurate kicks today...

Hodgson has faith in comeback kid Head
By Steve Jancetic and Peter Veness
AAP

Wests Tigers skipper Brett Hodgson believes the NRL return of injury-prone halfback Mathew Head could be the catalyst for a black and gold resurgence.
While it may be the smallest of silver linings in a very black cloud, Head is tipped to make his Tigers debut against Canberra on Sunday in place of injured superstar Robbie Farah.
Farah is expected to miss two weeks with a back problem, and it's ironic that his absence should open the door for Head given the former St George Illawarra star's career has been dogged by injury.
But given a second chance by the Tigers, Head is poised to take the first step towards rebuilding his career when he takes to Canberra Stadium.
And Hodgson said he could be just what the Tigers have been looking for at halfback.
"His direction in leading the forwards around the field is probably what we've lacked in the last week or two, he'll definitely be an added bonus there," Hodgson said.
"We've all got a lot of confidence in Heady if he does come in.
"He's been going all right, he's been going good in the (NSW Cup) when he's been playing and controlling the speed of the game pretty well.
"His kicking game's brilliant and it has been throughout his career."
Head is still no definite starter as coach Tim Sheens also toys with the idea of bringing Dean Collis into the centres and moving Tim Moltzen back to partner John Morris in the halves.
But Head is the likely option, the diminutive playmaker's surgically repaired knee having survived three games in the NSW Cup.
Despite Farah's absence the Raiders have spent plenty of time this week working on controlling the Tigers little men around the ruck after they were exposed in last week's loss to Gold Coast.
"They (Titans) worked us over pretty good and we're normally pretty tight around the ruck," hooker Lincoln Withers said.
"Hopefully this week we'll tighten up a bit, the Tigers will be looking for the same thing.
"They have some quick blokes who hit the ground and surrender a bit so if we win the ground we'll win the ruck and hopefully the game.
"(Hooker Stuart) Flanagan is a good player, he's been under Robbie for a few years and he gets in quick out of dummy half, so we'll have to watch him just as much as we do Farah."
Withers is back in the starting line-up after coming off the bench against the Titans as he continues his return from a sternum injury.
With back-up hooker Ryan Hinchcliffe not included on the bench, Withers knows he'll need to play more minutes on Sunday.
"(It's) probably back into the role from the start of the year and play the full 80, with (Alan) Tongue there to help for a few minutes if need be," Withers said.
"You always try to play as many minutes as you can so hopefully this week I get the whole lot."
 
TB...................Where are you ,hope you haven't done anything silly:( .Boy after leading 24-10 and losing it :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:don't worry KAPUT & SOOKBOY Farah are due back soon:eek:
 
yep good one....me still 100% the dragons & will get beat again,been on the road all week & looking forward to tonights last run up to clybucca.

my tips..parra,broncos,bulldogs,cowboys,sharks,roosters,tigers,storm.

tb
 
Is that it TB.............YEH GOOD ONE...................come on mate you can do better than that or are you going toothless like your tiggers:p:Where have you been all week ,hauling KLEENEXS:D
 
Is that it TB.............YEH GOOD ONE...................come on mate you can do better than that or are you going toothless like your tiggers:p:Where have you been all week ,hauling KLEENEXS:D

Told you mate,driving my mates argosy 550 cat out of the wetherill park depot to clybucca 5 nights this week...monday night til this morning...

I take the truck home so after a days sleep i rock into the depot at 6.00pm each night,hook up my trailers & grab the paperwork,10 minutes later ive got the cat purring along the M7 onto pennant hills road then the F3,mt white weighbridge in the 1st hour,end of F3 2nd hour at beresfield,3rd hour i trundle into buladelah,4th hour say hello to taree,then the 5th hour im into the BP(aka the coffee shop) at clybucca where i unhook from my trailers as does the other driver from brisbane,we swap trailers & paperwork then head back to sydney...too easy...tb:D


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yep good one....me still 100% the dragons & will get beat again,been on the road all week & looking forward to tonights last run up to clybucca.

my tips..parra,broncos,bulldogs,cowboys,sharks,roosters,tigers,storm.

tb

parra now hurting me & running out of excuses,as for the titans they have surprised me with their early form however i still expect them to fade away in the last 6-8 games,scotty prince back to his 2005 clive churchill medal winning form, early i had penrith as smokeys but poor opening form had me rethinking their chances,tonight they got over the sharks in an extra time thriller,sammut a field goal in the 84th minute..21-20...

here...thommos last game,been a top player for over 12+ years i think,into the top grade while still at school,just like a few tigers...brasher,lawrence...

dragons carve up coming:banghead:....tb


Panthers down Sharks 21-20
By Liam Fitzgibbon
AAP

Penrith spoiled veteran backrower Lance Thompson's NRL farewell with a Jarrod Sammut field goal giving the Panthers a thrilling 21-20 golden-point extra-time win over Cronulla at Toyota Stadium.
The Sharks looked set to send the retiring Thompson out in style when they led 20-10 with 20 minutes remaining.
But late tries to Penrith wingers Michael Gordon and Luke Rooney, and a Sammut sideline conversion, levelled scores at 20-all to send the game into extra time.
The comeback was completed when Sammut slotted a field goal five minutes into extra time to steal the win after Sharks halfback Brett Kimmorley thought he nailed a 40m effort seconds earlier only to have the attempt waived away.
Thompson, who returned to the field with three minutes left in regular time after spending most of the second half on the interchange bench, scored his first try in almost 18 months in the first half to give Cronulla a 10-6 halftime lead.
The 30-year-old retired after the match, his 239th first grade game, after doctors told him his dodgy knee had only one game left in it.
Thompson pounced on a Luke Rooney mistake to score uncontested in the 15th minute to put the Sharks up 10-6 after Greg Bird had scored to cancel out Nathan Smith's opener.
When Fraser Anderson scored four minutes after the halftime break it looked like the Sharks could run away with the game, but they failed to put away a stubborn Panthers side.
Penrith began their comeback when Jennings crossed out wide in the 52nd minute.
Several times on the last tackle, Penrith looked like they would be forced into a turnover but they kept the ball alive and Smith fired a lovely cut-out pass to Jennings, who did well to stay in the field of play to score.
Bird restored the Sharks advantage when he powered his way over for his second try of the game in the 59th.
But it wasn't enough to deter the Panthers, with Gordon crossing after a brilliant Rhys Wesser run and then Rooney scoring for his first of the season with just minutes remaining.
Sammut then stepped up under pressure to slot a sideline into a strong southerly in cold and wet conditions at the Sharks' newly-renovated home ground.
Despite the shock loss, the near 14,000 fans stayed to cheer Thompson on a lap of honour after he thanked the crowd.
Panthers coach Matthew Elliott said after the match he knew his young halfback would produce the goods when it mattered most.
"You've actually got to know Jarrod to understand my feelings ... but when it came to getting us back in the game I had no doubt he'd kick it (the sideline goal)," Elliott said.
"He's just that sort of kid, same as the field goal. It was a pretty special effort, two special plays from him."
Elliott was proud of the way his men refused to give in.
"I wouldn't say it was a fantastic performance but it was really gutsy, it showed some desperation in the first half.
"We came up with some last ditch plays to score some tries and I'm just really pleased with the boys, it was fantastic the way they kept hanging in there."
Sharks coach Ricky Stuart and halfback Brett Kimmorley both played down Kimmorley's 40m effort in extra time - most in the stadium had thought it went over.
"I think it went to the right, I was hoping it would come back further but I'm pretty sure it went behind the posts," Kimmorley said.
Stuart was more disappointed about surrendering a ten-point lead.
"We can't afford to be giving eight-, ten- point leads away in game's like that," Stuart said.
"That was a costly game, we didn't do enough in the second half to go along with it."
The Sharks were also lamenting the chance to send Thompson out a winner but the man himself said he couldn't be prouder of his teammates.
"I couldn't be happier to finish with a better bunch of blokes, I've got a lot of mates in this team now which is terrific and something I'll cherish," Thompson said.
"I feel relieved, it was the toughest week I'd ever had to go through."
 
jj....me still 100% :cool: on your soft dragons pack,tipped them once this year & their only win at that...,their next 4 games are,roosters,bye,eels,storm,sea eagles...then your confirmation of the spoon when the rabbitohs give it to you in round 12,souths home game..

dragons are gone this year....as souths have the raiders in round 10..away,& are a chance...

ryles & co failing miserably in the fundementals...:banghead:

JJ here is your weekly medicine.:banghead:

Dogs maul uninspired Dragons
By Steve Jancetic
AAP

It's only round six but it seems the end of the NRL season can't come soon enough for St George Illawarra after the Dragons produced yet another uninspired display in going down to the Bulldogs 30-18 at ANZ Stadium.
While Bulldogs coach Steve Folkes would be the first to admit his side wasn't great, they didn't need to be either, the Dragons producing more of the same in virtually handing the home side two competition points.
The arrival of Wayne Bennett in 2009 appears the only ray of hope for Dragons fans despite current coach Nathan Brown insisting better days are just around the corner.
That corner is looking more like a roundabout at the moment, dropped balls, poor passes, missed tackles and ill-discipline killing any hopes of a Dragons win.
It was only when the Bulldogs put the cue in the rack that they hit back with two late tries, the 30-6 scoreline after 71 minutes more an indication of the home side's dominance.
"We just can't get any flow, we can't get all 17 people heading in that one direction playing reasonable well at once," Brown lamented.
"Any time we start to get some momentum, someone comes up with an error or someone comes up with a poor pass.
"Confidence is a wonderful thing, if you sold it by the schooner, you'd get them to all go out and buy it. It's a great thing to have and when you don't, it's not good."
What's worse is they have to play the high-flying Sydney Roosters on Anzac Day, Brown claiming he had little choice but to keep faith in the incumbents.
"Making mass changes is not what's going to fix our problem," said Brown, who appeared quite composed given his side's dire situation.
"I can sit here and rant and rave, it ain't going to change anything, I'm not going to wake up tomorrow and we're going to be 3-2 or 4-1, that won't happen.
"Me ranting and raving and talking rubbish trying to make out I'm intelligent ain't going to help the case neither."
The Dragons actually started well enough, leading 6-4 before four errors led directly to four Bulldogs tries and a 26-6 lead three minutes after halftime.
While possession and position were handed to them, the Bulldogs deserve credit for turning that into points.
Doubles to Tim Winitana and Matt Utai and another try to Willie Tonga on the stroke of halftime, when a Rangi Chase chip kick fell right in the hands of the former Test centre who raced 70 metres to score, eased some of the concerns over the blue and white strikepower out wide.
After building up a 24-point lead, the Bulldogs seemingly decided they'd done enough as the Dragons scored long range late tries to Matt Cooper and Simon Woolford.
It was enough to leave coach Steve Folkes more than a little agitated.
"The last 20 minutes was pretty diabolical ... to get to 30-6 we didn't play too badly, it would have been nice to finish them off I guess," Folkes said.
"You can't do that ... we need to learn to put sides away.
"We probably used to do that but with a few younger blokes in the team they need to learn you've got to put the foot down the whole time otherwise it will come back to bite you on the ****."
 
My nrl success rate so far...

dragons,souths,roosters...100%

bulldogs,cowboys.....67%

raiders,knights,storm....60%

broncos,warriors,panthers....50%

tigers.....40%...hurting.

titans,sea eagles,sharks,eels(costing me..)......33%
 
JJ whats doing with the dragons:banghead:...tragic simple errors.


very hard to pick lately with newcastle,penrith & titans getting the upset wins,shows how even the comp is,as i tipped the knights to upset the broncos last week only to get beat & this week they beat the chookies,well i think we will get a much clearer picture after round 10,the titans have surprised me but i still expect them to fade in the last half,i still think newcastle are the smokeys in the field...

Tigers got back on track with a win over souths & with a heap of topliners due back from injury soon we will make up a few wins during the state of origin series with our game v cowboys the week before game 2..

Now the dragons & souths still tipping 100% on them but they clash in round 12 so if i tip the winner it stays at 100%...


Tigers keep Bunnies winless after six
By Steve Jancetic
AAP

For a while there, South Sydney actually looked a little like the side which charged into last year's NRL finals, one which promised so much more in 2008.
But reality eventually set in at the SCG on Sunday, the return to the scene of so many of their memorable triumphs not enough inspiration as Wests Tigers put on a second half clinic to run out comfortable winners 30-10.
You could almost pinpoint the moment it started unravelling for the Bunnies, now none from six this season.
It came just after Ben Rogers had scored in the 27th minute to propel Souths to a 10-0 lead they fully deserved following a dominant opening.
There was a hint as Nathan Merrit sprayed the simple conversion wide, but it was clear the rot was well and truly about to set in when, from the kick-off, Jeremy Smith dropped the ball cold, the closest defender still 40 metres away.
It proved to be one hell of a momentum turner, Tigers halfback Mathew Head putting Chris Heighington over a short time later for a 10-6 deficit at the break.
"It did (swing the momentum) that was one that put us on the back foot and the Tigers scored from there," said Souths coach Jason Taylor, though he refused to lay the blame at Smith's feet.
"But we went into halftime at 10-6 and there was no reason why we couldn't have done a lot better in the second half.
"It wasn't our only issue, we continued to do those sort of things in the second half."
And didn't the Tigers capitalise, Head continuing his impressive return to top flight football following a horror few years with knee injuries as he guided the home side to victory.
The Tigers scored four unanswered tries after the break, their lift in intensity giving an indication that a halftime spray from Tim Sheens had welcomed them into the dressing room, a claim he later denied - sort of.
"The coach wasn't happy but at the end of the day you've still got to be constructive," he said.
"A side on its game, we could have been 30 behind at halftime given the amount of ball we turned over."
There was only one side turning over the ball in the second stanza, the blokes in the red and green with half a rabbit on their chests, a throwback to John Sattler's jersey from the 1971 grand final in which he broke his jaw and had half his emblem ripped off his chest.
Head put Dean Collis over eight minutes after the restart and when Ben Te'o brushed off four defenders and reached out over the line, the Tigers looked home.
Brett Hodgson then gave Chris Lawrence a passage to the line before the Tigers skipper converted from the sideline for an unbeatable 14-point lead, Hodgson making it a perfect 20 from 20 kicks for the season when he converted Stuart Flanagan's try in the dying stages.
Kids were then allowed onto the hallowed turf as part of the NRL's Heritage weekend celebrations and the Tigers win denied fans what would have been the most enduring sight of the season.
"Seeing those kids out there on the field, I would have run out there myself and kicked a few goals if we won today, but it didn't happen," Taylor said.
Shame.


its very obvious the dragons are not playing for nathan brown & everyone is looking to 2009 with bennett,wouldnt be surprised if brown falls on his sword,quickly followed by jason taylor,i still cannot understand why he keeps picking jeremy smith at half back,i said weeks ago he is rubbish & wont win a game while he wears the no.7,i would give nathan merritt a try at the half back role...i thought that matt elliot at penrith would go first but he looks to have survived by their wins of late,i said at the start they were smokeys & they are coming along ok,sammut at half has been great...
 
Only 6 games this week with the saints v roosters the big anzac clash,i am tipping the roosters however on the punt i am tempted to back jjs team who are $3.00 in a 2 horse race,the saints can put it together its just a matter of when??,these anzac games are always close,so having a bet each way here,on the tip going the roosters,but for my wallet i cannot ignore the 2/1 on offer...

the broncos over souths who i note have finally sacked jeremy smith from the no.7,souths will win a game but not over the broncos,the $4.50 on offer is also tempting but cant see an upset here unlike the saints..

manly over the bulldogs,i think manly will win well here at home,going to back michael bani for 1st tryscorer...

cowboys at home are $2.10(10/9) v the storm,reckon the cowboys can win here,like the 10/9 for the home advantage...

titans to beat the warriors,titans have surprised me with their early form & ive lost out a few times tipping against them,scotty princes kicking game has been the catalyst for their surge...

sharks v tigers...the return of the great benji this week sees my team going ok with more players to come back,matt heads kicking game as expected has gone well & i expect him to hold onto the no.7,morris is at no 9...tigers to win of course...chris lawrence for 1st tryscorer...

so i tip.roosters,broncos,manly,cowboys,titans,tigers...

on the punt,going to back the saints at 2/1

michael bani 1st tryscorer,manly v bulldogs

chris lawrence 1st tryscorer,tigers v sharks

doncaster & derby tips on friday in the tb racing thread...

dont forget people the holidays is double points...tb
 
Double points this week TB does that mean the mighty dragons get 4 for our outstanding win .The form front row Ryles-Young-Poore,Morris & Gaz in the centres 2005 we were 2-5 and were joint premiers with Parra .Whats the betting on Tampon being injured this week ,I dont bet often but I might have a wager but which one shoulder/knee
 
Im on fire jj still 100% your mob,i knew they would finally show some balls & as i said the 2/1 on offer was too good to refuse...lol!!thanks tab,hey dont talk about 2005 ok buddy;) otherwise i will have to show you my 2005 premiership gear:D:D..

ok you twisted my arm...

jj think about this stat:88 is the total number of seasons st george(29),parra(22),souths(37) have gone without lifting the trophy...

As for BENJI the great,he will be ok...dont forget jj its a very long season & the tigers proved in 2005 when they won the comp from 11th at the half way mark...

I still think newcastle are the smokeys this year,a bit like the tigers 2005...
tb
 

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Only 5 games this week with the rep games starting off,city v country on friday night,going for city with tigers no.1 brett hodgson getting his jersey again,shame chris lawrence aint there as well(2 tries last week)...

tipping the knights at home v the titans,parra(last chance) over penrith,

tigers at home($2.35)v the broncos,matt heads kicking game as i said has made a big difference,his kick won us the game v sharks...

warriors v raiders,the nzers at home to get the cash

cowboys away to the rabbits to get the cash as well,souths as i said way back are very unlikely to win a game with their current & past halves pairings,nathan merrit is wasted on the wing & if he ever gets into the no.7 then they will win a game but not before...

tips..city,knights,parra,tigers,warriors,cowboys

..tb:D
 
I got the knights home 13-12,as ive said a few times they are the smokeys of the comp,upset the roosters & the titans in recent weeks,mullens left foot kicking game is a big plus..

my team the tigers put up a brave effort with a player down on the bench & missing farah,benji,& o'hara to come back soon..still think morris has gotta go with tuiaki & te'o starting in the pack with kapow halatau at 5/8-centres til benji returns,lawrence to take tuiaki's wing spot..we need some more size around the 5/8 area,warriors are up 8-0 v the raiders & the cowboys will just spank souths...with widders at 5/8...whats doing there???too slow...:banghead:
 
Souths finally won a game by putting some sting in their defence & having john sutton at 5/8...gee only took 8 games to twig to hes a 5/8 not a lock,nadira at hooker gave them some punch up the middle,still reckon they will get the spoon...as for the cowboys they can only get it up when they are doing each others wives...:eek:they rely on thurston too much...

season has still a long way to go,still like newcastle as smokeys...with smith putting the broom through the place in 07 it looks like it may pay off this or next year,the halves of mullen & bailey look good,k.gidley safe at no.1,buderus going well reckon im going to throw a few $$$ on them to win the comp...my team still need to give morris the big A..:banghead:...TB...:D
 
go the dragons ... that's 4 points in two weeks ... starting to make their charge now. slowly but surely they will make the top 4. now only 2 points out of the eight.
 
Souths finally won a game by putting some sting in their defence & having john sutton at 5/8...gee only took 8 games to twig to hes a 5/8 not a lock,nadira at hooker gave them some punch up the middle,still reckon they will get the spoon...as for the cowboys they can only get it up when they are doing each others wives...:eek:they rely on thurston too much...

Nah, it was Maximus in the crowd that spurred them onto victory.

Doesn`t it look like the game is speeding up at this time of the season.The play the ball area gets the pea blowers wrath with the slightest loafing so the plays are speeding up with a faster play the ball.They`re fit them boys for sure.
I see Lafranchi and Thaiday are exciting to watch at the moment and could easily have been chosen to play this Friday night against NZ.Good form to take into the Origin game in 2 weeks and 2 days in Sydney anyway. :cool:
Noting 8 of the 13 in Fridays run on side represent :rolleyes: somewhere north of Stanthorpe.
 
Way too early yet for the dragons to worry about top 8 or dream on top 4,you wanna be in striking distance from about rd 21...for instance i dont think the titans will make the top 6 as its a very long season...lets look at the dragons from rd 21 to rd 26

away v sharks..L
home v tigers...ggrrhhh..we win...L
away v broncos...L
home v warriors...?
home v parra...?
away v roosters...L

in the mean time you got

away v parra...L
home v storm..L
away v manly...L
away v souths...?
home v broncos...L
bye..
home v penrith...?
away v titans...L
away v newcastle...L
home v canberra...?
away v storm..L
home v bulldogs...L

you are 2 points off my team the tigers in 8th BUT we still gotta have a bye...you will need 28 points to grab 8th,so you will need 12 wins plus the 2 byes for 8th...dragons 10 more wins from 17 games...cant see it happening...

i can give you maybe 4 more wins,best bet would be to not make the 8 & with souths finally getting a win....the dreaded spoon(hi jj) comes into play

anyway stick solid! i waited 32 years for the tigers to win a comp,your not far off with 29 years...memories 1979....:banghead:....tb..:D
 
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