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Next years NRL winners?

Here jj i'll give you a look ok,but dont photoshop it with the bunch of losers you go for ok...tb
 

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Hey tb

Word is that Jack's son has even better skills than the old man........so now he's playing for the Swannie's. He played a good game against the Saints last week to. I find it amusing when the commentators keep mentioning that players have come from rugby or league backgrounds - it's as if they are saying "Don't expect this player to be able to kick, mark or handpass well....but he's tough". Same with those from basketball backgrounds........"This bloke can't kick, but hell - he's tall". Anyway, young Jack has got some great skills, he looks a good prospect.

I saw an interview with Gazza the other day - sounds like another AFL convert. He said his son will enjoy playing in front of a crowd. Ha ha

Duckman
 
Dont know about that one, jimmy jack was a rock solid fullback in an era of top no.1's,as for afl the only chance to prove he is anywere near his old mans skill is by going to ireland & playing with a soccer ball!!!

Absolute sheilas game originally designed for cricketers to keep fit in the winter...hey ump he pushed me in the back..ok here is a free kick,oh if you dont kick it straight you can have a point...what a bunch of girls,playing forcings back every weekend.

In afl it is possible for a player to go a whole game without getting the ball.any how the afl on the afl thread..

The only afl player with a big heart was paul kelly,from nsw(?wagga) him & the dipper the only 2 afl that would have had a real dig in league...

The rest are a bunch of girls,sorry jacko the lunatic he would have been a real crazy 2nd rower,& capper would have been ian roberts bum chum.tb
 
manly 28 warriors 6(30 mins to go) just the 5/8 tips for me this week,i always look to get

at least 6/8 each week,i picked 2 upsets of the roosters v storm & canberra v st george...but my team let me down,& manly have got their 1st win.

Early still,but its good to start well,ive tipped 15/24 in the first 3 rounds.

next weeks games are:2 friday night blockbusters,cant wait...

melbourne v brisbane
roosters v bulldogs
st george v cronulla
gold coast v canberra
cowboys v parramatta
warriors v newcastle
manly v souths
wests tigers v penrith(monday night.i might go..)

manly 38 warriors 6(laying down,manly did move lyon back to the centres)

cowboys season look to be on the line this early,however they may get their act together,i like manly,tigers as certain winners,thursday i will do my tips,the friday night games look hard to pick,with melb. staring down a 1/4 start to the season...tb

manly 44 warriors 6..
 
TB the only way the tigers are certain winners is that the NRL bring the BYE back :and if they play like they did yesterday I'd back the bye
 
TB the only way the tigers are certain winners is that the NRL bring the BYE back :and if they play like they did yesterday I'd back the bye

I offered you to back the dogs but being a st jaws(more biting again,learnt from rod reddy..) you got no balls,me i put my money where my mouth is,i backed the tigers all year all the way from 125/1 several times,66/1,50/1,33/1,20/1 & a stack of 8/1 after we slapped your sissys at jubilee,remember thats a stack of 125/1 baggers,they still werent favourites til we put your cry baby barrett on his knees...

Here jj one more time just for you...remember this...lol..lol...tb

pack of the biggest losers in the history of the game,deadset imposters getting huge cash for reputations,they mean nothing on the field asthe tigers showed your bunch of overpaid sissys,tigers too good simple as that
as i said anytime you got the ticker to back your side v the tigers just jump on this thread,i will take any bet any amount you are game enough,
dragons & ryles bunch of girls...

look at the losers,trying to make it a 6th grand final loss in a row...
my team of real champions giving it to your team of 'names'

priceless!!!!

NEWS
DRAGONS DENIED PREMIERSHIP DREAM24 September 2005

The St George Illawarra Dragons premiership dream for 2005 is over, after going down 20-12 to the Wests Tigers in the first Preliminary Final at Aussie Stadium tonight.
Despite not leading at any stage of the contest, the Dragons had ample opportunities to overtake their rivals in the second half but unfortunately weren't able to execute at the right times.
Credit must be given to the red and whites defence who expended a lot of juice in the first half. With close to 70 % of the ball, all the field position and ‘good' enough to not concede one penalty, the Tigers only went into the sheds ten in front.
Against a side that in the previous weeks put 50 on the Cowboys and over 30 on the Broncos, the Dragons hung tough and almost pulled the game out of the fire.
Coach Nathan Brown, while disappointed, spoke highly of his sides grit and tenacity and their ability to stay in a contest till the very end.
"I really couldn't complain about the effort tonight", said a crushed Brown.
"The Tigers have been the form side of the finals who have had some big wins lately, but our blokes really dug in, but they (Wests) were just too good on the night."
Not helping the Dragons cause was the loss of custodian Clint Greenshields early in the second half.
The diminutive number 1 left the field clutching at ribs after copping a knock. The injury forced a reshuffle, with Ben Hornby forced to move out of the halves and back to his old position.
"It showed how important Heady (Matt Head) is to us", said Brown.
The loss looked to have instantly sunk into Trent Barrett who resembled a hollow figure in the sheds.
"We had our chances, but it wasn't to be", said the despondent captain.
"It's just an empty feeling, I can't describe it, it's a pretty lonely feeling."
Barrett's leadership was inspirational, as to was Luke Bailey's go forward. Lance Thompson was once again a brick wall in defence and Dean Young pushed his claims for a Tri-Nations berth with a gutsy display.
The Dragons were under the pump after only four minutes when Benji Marshall opened his sides account. After a Dragons mistake only 25 metres out from their own line, Marshall sliced through out wide thanks to a planned scrum move. Brett Hodgson's conversion attempt failed.
The Tigers ambush continued for the next 15 minutes. Taking a leaf out of the Sharks book, Wests big men were doing their best to out bustle their more heralded opponents. The tactic was paying dividends with the Dragons making several uncharacteristic errors with the ball. In fact, the red and whites completions were more resembling Australia's unemployment rate.
On the 20 minute mark, St George Illawarra almost drew level after a skewed Ben Hornby kick bounced into the arms of a free running Ben Creagh, but referee Tim Mander called the second rower offside.
Just minutes later, the Tigers extended their lead to ten.
After getting a roll on through the earlier tackles, the black and golds found themselves only 20 metres out from the Dragons line. With players stacked left and right, Dene Halatau scooted straight down the middle from acting half and crashed over under the sticks. Hodgson made no mistakes from in front making the score 10 -0.
With the Tigers looking extremely dangerous, the Dragons had to stem the flow and it was Barrett who provided the impetus in attack.
With around 13 minutes left till the break, Barrett showed the courage of his convictions and spun the ball wide on his own 30 metre line. The cut out ball found Matt Cooper who after beating his man on the outside, set sail downfield. The centre - three quarter then drew in the last line of defence and linked up with Wes Naiqama who sprinted the final 40 metres to score out wide. Michael Ennis converted from the eastern touchline, closing the margin back to four.
Unfortunately for the red and whites, the mistakes soon returned, handing the Tigers more valuable field position. With only five minutes to the break, they were made to pay.
Reaching for the tent pegs, Wests had all but set up camp in the Dragons red zone. Despite St George Illawarra's steely defence, the flashy Tigers attack culminated in a great try to Chris Heighington.
"They'd be the best side in the comp at shifting the ball from side to side with skill and speed", said Brown.
Hodgson converted to put his side up 16 - 6, a lead they would take into half time.
The second half started with more fire and brimstone. After receiving no ball or field position in the opening stanza, the Dragons knew the flow would have to swing. Despite their attack becoming a little disjointed when Greenshields was escorted from the field, St George Illawarra dug in and got themselves back into it.
After finally receiving a couple of much needed penalties, Barrett took the initiative and scored a great captains try. Attacking close to the line, Barrett steamed onto a clever second man pass from dummy half and dived over under the sticks almost untouched. The try brought a humungous roar from the fans at the northern end who witnessed the brilliance up close.
At 16-12 and with still over a quarter of the game to go, a grandstand finish was on the cards.
But only four minutes later, the Dragons found themselves back under the pump when Halatau crossed for his second.
In a carbon copy effort to Heighinton's first half try, more dazzling quick hands from the Tigers found Halatau in space. The in form utility needed no invitation to find the line and before the Dragons knew it they were down 20 -12 and staring elimination in the face.
From that point on, the Dragons had countless opportunities to peg back the deficit, but continually came undone with a spilt ball or final pass not finding the right man.
Their best chance came with 15 minutes to go when Cooper was all but over out wide but couldn't handle the pass.
The final few minutes seemed like hours to many of the Dragons fans who were coming to terms with theirs sides untimely exit.
While devastated with the loss, Brown sounded a warning for season 2006.
"Tonight was a real heartbreaker, but we'll be pumped to comeback bigger and even better next year."
WESTS TIGERS 20 ( D Halatau 2, B Marshall, C Heighington tries; B Hodgson 2 goals) d. ST GEORGE ILLAWARRA DRAGONS 12 ( W Naiqama , T Barrett tries; M Ennis 2 goals)
At Aussie Stadium . Crowd 41 260 . Referee Tim Mander


kapow halatau!

also benji 15/1 1st try scorer.....................love it
 
Thanks tb, 5 from 8 is a respectable score.

yeah thanks mate,my team let me down as i said,also cronulla who would have given me 6,the way the form is even this early,5 is not bad,i tend to get the first 4 which i did this week then the last 4 is a toss of the coin,look at next weeks games,atm there is only 2 standouts,tigers & manly,i noticed lyon got shifted back to the centres as i said he is not a 5/8,menzies does a good job..see you next week...tb
 
Brown slams disappointing Dragons
Mon March 17, 2008
St George Illawarra has slammed his players performance following their 24-16 loss to the Wests Tigers yesterday and admitted it was the most disappointed he has been in his time at the Club.

Brown during his 171 playing career at the Dragons was involved in three Grand Finals where they all lost in heart breaking circumstances in 1993, 1996 and 1999.

As a coach Brown was involved in a controversial face slapping incident with Trent Barrett in 2003 and in 2005 had his best opportunity to guide his side to a Premiership taken away in 80 minutes by the Wests Tigers of all sides. The Dragons were in the final four in 2006 only to go down to Melbourne in a game that was there for the taking if they were on their game.

However, despite the previous disappointments as a player or coach, Brown rates yesterday as the worst he has felt.

Brown said, "In all my time as both a coach and a player that is possibly the most disappointed I have been.

"After the pre-season we had and to come out and play like that doesn't sit well.

"I had some guys out there today that I just don't think tried or thought about how they played and we made a number of mistakes which gave them opportunities.

"Teams have this perception with us that if they stick with us then eventually we will give them something and it is the main thing that I'm going to have to change."


Brown has been under consistent fire from Dragons supporters right from the moment he took on the coaching job. Brown was coach of the Dragons Jersey Flegg side in 2002 that went through undefeated only to lose the Grand Final against the Roosters. Brown was promoted to the top grade side replacing Andrew Farrar who was sacked after two and a half years in the top job.

In a change of coaching landscapes in recent seasons only Wayne Bennett and Steve Folkes have been at their clubs longer than Brown with Bennett already confirming that he'll be leaving Brisbane and Saturday's second half collapse has ensured that Folkes won't be at the Bulldogs next year. Current Wests Tigers mentor Tim Sheens took on the Tigers job for the 2003 season and North Queensland coach Graham Murray was appointed coach during the 2003 season. Sheens will be at Wests next year whereas Murray is on his way.

Brown has the big advantage in that he has the unbackable support of chief executive Peter Doust and whilst Doust has the majority control at the Dragons Brown's position is safe as their friendship is very close. But the unrelenting pressure Brown has been under will be getting to him and factions within the Dragons are looking at alternatives for next year.

The Dragons yesterday played without structure and direction, which Brown has to work out how he is delivering his message to the players and what is happening on the training paddock that isn't making the field of play. Brown needs to stamp his authority and make tough decisions or do the honourable thing and walk with dignity.

St George Illawarra hosts the inform Gold Coast Titans in Round 2 action where they'll be looking for a big performance on home soil to bounce back from last week
 
Hey jj your losers finally might win a comp,but this year im going to back them for the spoon with penrith...tb


Wayne bennett to coach the saints next year.

Bennett to coach Dragons from 2009

AAP

St George Illawarra have confirmed the appointment of Wayne Bennett as coach of the NRL club for next year.
The six-time premiership-winning coach, who earlier this year announced he would be leaving the Broncos after 21 years at the helm, has signed a three-year deal with the Dragons.
He will replace embattled coach Nathan Brown.
"It is a great honour for me to be appointed as the head coach of the St George Illawarra Dragons, they are one of the great clubs and brands of the NRL with a rich history and tradition," Bennett said on the Dragons website.
"Yesterday I met with the board of the Dragons, we had a very meaningful discussion about a number of issues in relation to the club and the direction for 2009 and beyond.
"I advised the Broncos this morning of my decision, I won't be making any appointments at the Dragons until later in the year and I won't be making any further comment until the completion of the 2008 season for both the Broncos and the Dragons."
The club said it made the decision on Monday after completing a "comprehensive review process" that began at the end of last season and involved a number of coaches, including Brown.
"Whilst respectful of the contributions and achievements of Nathan as head coach for the past six years, the board decided that it would be time for a change at the end of this season," Dragons chief executive Peter Doust said.
"While a number of coaches including Nathan were considered through the course of the process, the board determined that Wayne Bennett was the best credentialed person for the position.
"Decisions like this are always difficult and Nathan has a history and popularity within our club."
It was speculated that Brown could still be retained at the club in some capacity on the coaching staff but Brown said he wanted to carry on as a coach.
"I would have loved to have had my contract extended here at the Dragons, but I understand and accept the decision," Brown said.
"Coaches with the experience and success of Wayne Bennett don't come around very often.
"As far as 2009 goes, I intend to continue coaching, I have always said that I want to be a career coach and at 34 I believe that I have many more years ahead of me.
"In saying that, I am not going to be worrying about it ... my commitment and focus is still 100 per cent on this season with the Dragons."
 
Here jj st jaws back to the rod redy days,when you lot are getting beat,bung on the biting...tb

Saffy pleads not guilty to 'bite' claim
By Philip Henderson
AAP

A lack of conclusive video evidence is expected to form part of Jarrod Saffy's defence at the NRL judiciary on Wednesday night after the St George Illawarra forward on Tuesday pleaded not guilty to biting Canberra halfback Todd Carney.
The Dragons will aim to raise enough doubt over Carney's claim he was bitten on the right forearm by Saffy while making a tackle in the 32nd minute of Saturday's match at Canberra Stadium in a bid to get the 23-year-old off his charge of contrary conduct.
"We have pleaded not guilty, we will take our case and Jarrod's case to the judiciary tomorrow night and we'll have a strong case," chief executive Peter Doust said.
Bulldogs forward Brad Morrin was banned for eight matches last year after pleading guilty to biting Parramatta's Timana Tahu.
But the previous two players to fight biting allegations - former Dragons prop Luke Bailey in 2002 and Parramatta forward Fuifui Moimoi in 2006 - were both exonerated by the judiciary.
The Eels threw up a host of scenarios as to why Melbourne prop Brett White believed he had been bitten by Moimoi in 2006 - including blaming Moimoi's arm guard - which along with a lack of video evidence led to him getting off the charge.
The Dragons will be hoping to raise similar doubt on Wednesday, with replays not clearly showing the incident.
Carney is expected to give evidence at the hearing - either via a statement or phone interview.
Since making the allegation to referee Gavin Badger, the Raiders star has remained steadfast in his claim of being bitten.
But he has also said he did not want to see the Dragon banned, despite the alleged incident leaving him with several tooth marks and a bruise on his right forearm.
Saffy will be the only player to front a hearing at NRL headquarters after Cronulla skipper Paul Gallen pleaded guilty to raking the face of Gold Coast forward Anthony Laffranchi.
Gallen was outed for three weeks with the early plea.
North Queensland five-eighth Travis Burns also received a one-match ban after pleading guilty to a dangerous throw.
Both Brisbane winger Reece Robinson (dangerous throw) and Melbourne veteran Matt Geyer (contrary conduct, unnecessary face contact) have avoided suspension after entering early pleas
 
Hi Tigerboi,
For someone that can't spell you sure like to write a lot, even if your writing to yourself half the time.:

Cheers
 
Gee if you forget a letter all the experts suddenly appear??,maybe i should of put this in the pet peeves thread?,whats the go mint man & yo yo ma??
do you 2 go through all the posts & say oh look at that tb forgot the d in rod reddy....tb
 
We have already had some exciting friday night games & this week the long awaited return of willie mason to ANZ where he lines up against his old club,SBW v willie is the match up all want to see.

The History: Played 151; Roosters 74, Bulldogs 72, Drawn 5. The Bulldogs have won five of the past eight clashes – including the past three. The last time they met it was a resounding 38-6 win to the Dogs at ANZ Stadium last year.

I like the roosters with mason & o'meley up front they give the roosters mongrel they've missed since morely went back to the UK,dogs have got the speed out wide but going with the chooks by 8,watch out for minichiello to start hitting form now he has overcome his back injury.

Onto the storm v broncos with the signing of folau by the broncos this has aded a bit of feeling to the game,pj marsh is out for the broncos but they have karmichael hunt,darren lockyer & clinton the barbarian gets his first game off the bench,inglis returns for the storm, but he did look short of a gallop last week.

The History: Played 22; Storm 12, Broncos 9, Drawn 1. The Storm holds a decisive edge in recent games, winning six of the past eight clashes.
They’ve also won the past three encounters since losing the 2006 Grand Final and they have a healthy record at Olympic Park, dropping just two of eight games there.


I did tip the storm to get beat last week & even at home,being the premiers the loss of brent white up front is a big hole to fill,the way young half peter wallace has the broncos forwards bashing other teams i cant tip against them,hodges is out as well.wallace has his pack really firing & by the 65th minute mark they seem to hit the gas & just go too hard in their 3 wins so far.i like the broncos by 10..

The 3 saturday games kick off with the dragons v sharks local derby at anz,both teams are last start losers.i likethe sharks & with bird at 5/8 & with kimmorely due for a blinder i go the sharks by 14...(hi jj)

The History: Played 20; Dragons 8, Sharks 11. The Sharks have won three of the past four matches between the sides, including both clashes last year. St George Illawarra has also lost their past three matches at ANZ Stadium.

The titans v raiders...the titans through the home ground advantage,no other reason...by 7,rubbish game...

The History: Played 2; Titans 1, Raiders 1. The Titans are two from two at their new home “fortress” in 2008 and Canberra failed to win any of their three matches in Queensland last year. In fact their last win outside New South Wales was in 2006.

Cowboys v paramatta:This is a big test for the eels,they are expected to win just like last week,they face a team at home 0/3.i am tipping parra but the cowboys will come good.parra by 10.

The History: Played 20; Cowboys 8, Eels 11, drawn 1. Parramatta has lost their past three matches at Dairy Farmers Stadium but still hold a 4-3-1 advantage at the venue. All three North Queensland’s losses this year have been in their home state.

Manly v souths:I see des hasler took my advice last week & moved lyon back to the centres,where he belongs with menzies into 5/8.
souths cant put a decent halves pairing together,when they do they will win a few games,john suton should be 5/8.manly by 14

The History: Played 119, Sea Eagles 65, Rabbitohs 54. Manly have defeated Souths in their last 4 matches at Brookvale Oval.

Warriors v newcastle: ive had an each way bet in this with my 2 tipping comps, i think the knights can travel to NZ & win,i am impressed
with the knights halves dureau & mullen who looks dangerous everytime he gets the ball(bit of joey johns training),the warriors i tipped last week after they give it to parra then get beat by 48...hard to follow???,will be a tight one & could even be a draw at 80 mins,but with mullen able to boot left foot field goals i go for the knights by 1.

The History: Played 20; Warriors 6, Knights 13, drawn 1. The last time these teams met was at Mt Smart Stadium and the Warriors easily dominated, winning 52-10. However Newcastle are traditionally strong over in New Zealand and have won seven of 11 games.

The Tigers v penrithlenty of dumb football from my team last week so hoping they get their act together on monday night,robbie farah is in doubt with a back injury,tuiaki is back on the wing which gives us another forward not off the bench...chris lawrence for 1st try scorer...

Going for the tigers by 14,looking for john morris to improve his kicking game considerably...

I tip:Roosters,Broncos,Cronulla,Gold Coast,Parramatta,Manly,Newcastle,Tigers


Good luck hope your team wins,except Penrith!.....tb

Wests Tigers V Panthers Preview

Big League


Wests Tigers v Panthers
Campbelltown Stadium
Monday 7pm
THE fact this game isn’t until Monday night is probably grating on both sides this week. The Panthers finally posted a win after two awful performances out of the blocks and they would be hoping to keep some momentum going, while the Wests Tigers are looking to put their capitulation to the Bulldogs behind them and atone as soon as possible.
It shapes as an important clash for both sides. The Panthers need to prove their win over the Rabbitohs wasn’t a fluke and the Tigers need to notch a win against this level of opposition if they are to be considered title contenders.
Too often in the past the Tigers have lost matches they are expected to win – this cannot continue.
Off-field talk of player movements for the Panthers must be proving a distraction and it’s important Matt Elliott keeps his side as focussed as possible… or all the negative press associated with poor performances could be back before the next pokie jackpot at Panthers is won.
Elliott has named the same side from last week however Luke Lewis and Frank Puletua have been added to the bench. If fit, Lewis is an almost certain starter.
For the Tigers, Rhys Hanbury is out and Taniela Tuiaki returns to the wing, pushing Beau Ryan to the bench.
Watch out Wests Tigers: Trent Waterhouse is dishing out his own form of defensive punishment, missing just one tackle this season out of 87 made. It might not sound super impressive but 10 of those tackles have been dominant and they’ve come in a side that at times was attempting tackles on opposition players as if they were covered in spiders.
But while his defence has been effective, Waterhouse is ready to lift his offensive output back to the standards that saw him play 10 Tests for Australia. If he can get the quality ball he is after it could be danger for the Tigers.
Watch out Panthers: The Tigers have never been afraid to throw the ball around from anywhere on the park and they would be aware the Panthers have conceded five tries from over halfway, the most in the NRL. Look for the Tigers to give Chris Lawrence some space from early shifts, hoping he can crack the defence.
The Panthers need to also be aware of the Tigers’ sneaking tries from dummy-half. They already lead the NRL in the area, with two tries from positions that really should be impenetrable for professional teams.
Where it will be won: Completion rates and errors. Both sides need to treasure the ball if they are to win this game and it’s the Tigers who have the edge in this regard.
With only 27 errors so far this year the Wests Tigers lead the NRL, while the Panthers rank equal 10th with 43 so far this season. In good signs, the Panthers cut their error rate to just 10 last week.
Whichever side builds pressure the most effectively will win this game. The talent of the likes of Robbie Farah for the Tigers and Jarrod Sammut for the Panthers ensures that with opportunities come points, so it can’t be underestimated.
These two coaches are smart individuals; they’ll be preaching discipline with ball in hand but at the same time they’ll have enough trick shots for their attack to fire when they get in the right scenario.
The History: Played 13; Wests Tigers 4, Penrith 9. The head-to-head is heavily weighted in the Panthers’ favour here, however it must be noted the Tigers won both games last season. In saying that, Penrith have defeated the Tigers in the only two games played at Campbelltown Stadium.
Conclusion: The Panthers may have won last week and the Tigers may have been mauled but it is still hard to tip the Panthers with much confidence.
They almost let a substantial lead against the struggling South Sydney go and don’t look like a side that could mount a comeback should they fall behind.
The Tigers don’t get out to Campbelltown much these days and they’ll be keen to keep their local fans happy – especially considering their poor record against the mountain men at the venue.
 
Well tb after following your picks the previous week i have decided to go this way :-

Storm to blow away the Broncos
Roosters to spur the Bulldogs
Dragons to burn the Sharks
Titans to crush the Raiders
Eels to constrict the Cowboys
Warriors to club the Knights
Sea Eagles to feed on the Rabbitohs
Panthers to shred the Tigers

Hope Canterbury don`t go all soft up against their old forwards.
 
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