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Are you sure about this?
I was of the understanding that there have been some significant scientific discoveries/breakthroughs over the past few decades that would appear to presage the advent of superior (in terms of speed and infrastructure size) data transmission technology.
Perhaps you could put the "rose coloured" optics aside for a moment and perform an exhaustive investigation first, rather than automatically fending off the various challenges to the wisdom of NBN policy with such bold statements about "future-proof" data transmission technology.
Discoveries regarding quantum entanglement appear to suggest that seemingly "instantaneous" data transmission is achievable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement
“The scratched glass we’ve developed is actually a Photonic Integrated Circuit,” he explained in a University of Sydney statement. “This circuit uses the ‘scratch’ as a guide or a switching path for information -- kind of like when trains are switched from one track to another -- except this switch takes only one picosecond to change tracks.
“This means that in one second the switch is turning on and off about one million times,” he added. “We are talking about photonic technology that has terabit per second capacity.”
An initial demonstration of the photonic technology has revealed it as capable of providing speeds around 60 times faster than today’s networks, which rely on electric switching, but the team is confident that further development will glean even quicker performance.
It will only take one geeky kid or technoboffin to write a code that can decompress data into bite size chunks to change this story. There was an Australian guy who invented an engine that was 50% lighter and 30% more fuel efficient. A fuel company bought it so bye bye technology. Sarich was his name.
Whatever happened to this startling breakthrough?
http://www.thetechherald.com/articl...ircuit-sends-internet-speeds-through-the-roof
The orbital engine was invented in 1972 by Ralph Sarich, an engineer from Perth, Australia, who worked on the concept for years without ever producing a production engine. A prototype was demonstrated, running on the bench with no load. The engine can run on compressed air or steam. The engine does not need oil to run at all. It produces very high revs. It has only one moving part which can be run as a pump.
It will only take one geeky kid or technoboffin to write a code that can decompress data into bite size chunks to change this story. There was an Australian guy who invented an engine that was 50% lighter and 30% more fuel efficient. A fuel company bought it so bye bye technology. Sarich was his name.
Whatever happened to this startling breakthrough?
http://www.thetechherald.com/articl...ircuit-sends-internet-speeds-through-the-roof
Discoveries regarding quantum entanglement appear to suggest that seemingly "instantaneous" data transmission is achievable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement
Thanks IPfocus for the Sarich stuff. +1. Additionally, the conspiracy theory that an oil company bought the patent and shelved it has been around for a while, but I've never seen any actual evidence of it. Even if true though, the patent expired over 15 years ago, so if the engine actually worked, then there's been nothing stopping it being developed for well over a decade. Me thinks that Ralph's baby was not so good as he claimed it was....
On the other points...
Any mythical future super-data-compression system could just as easily be applied to fibre as well as copper or wireless, so would only serve to increase the gap between fibre and the rest.
Also, I'm not sure that you actually read the article you linked to about the new switching tech. Here, let me quote a bit for you:
According to Professor Eggleton, whose scientific team beat its own deadline for completion by a full year in developing the new circuit technology, the recent advancement of optical fibre delivery has meant that online data has the capacity to travel at much greater speeds than those currently achieved, which is where the scratched glass comes into play.
Let me translate: To use this great new tech we have discovered, you need optical fibre. Just like Alan Jones' "Laserbeam" technology from a couple of weeks ago. In fact, Jones would probably be right onto this great new photonics technology....
Since the current bottleneck is the "last mile" of copper from exchange to house, any advancements such as this that benefit the optical fibre portion of the networks won't produce any improvements in the speeds people can get, since it's limited by the DSL portion of the network.
And you wondered what happened to this idea? Well, the Fed Govt is funding the group's research: http://www.usyd.edu.au/news/science/397.html?newsstoryid=6795
Quite ironic that you've quoted a leading researcher in photonics and strong supporter of the NBN as somehow being evidence that it's not a good thing.
Are there any more technical articles supporting Fibre or the NBN you'd like to produce? Makes my job here much easier.
Are there any more technical articles supporting Fibre or the NBN you'd like to produce? Makes my job here much easier.
An initial demonstration of the photonic technology has revealed it as capable of providing speeds around 60 times faster than today’s networks, which rely on electric switching, but the team is confident that further development will glean even quicker performance.
Hahahahahhaaaa ...... your sabbatical at Camp Conroy has given you all the answers now hasn't it. You have also forgotten that I am not against the technology. I have written I am all for it when it is placed in the right areas firstThe link I provided was to evidence that there is technology to be invented yet that could make other/existing technology redundant.
Did they? Got a ref? Note that the article doesn't give a reference for the supposed purchase of the patent. The ref is just the patent itself. Also, as I wrote, the patent expired 15 years ago, yet no orbital engines have made it anywhere.1) If Sarich's engine was never a goer why did a petrochem company buy it then? The Wiki link that IFocus provided says he sold it to them?
2) Alan Jones is a paid vox pop. Not a scientist. Not a Laser Professor either. Ummmmm did you actually READ the date on the link I provided? "great new photonics technology...." you called it. The article was written on the Jul 10 2008, 10:34am. I was asking WHERE IS IT USED NOW ???? Fibre has been around for 30 years !!!! You highlighted the part you wanted where it states "the recent advancement of optical fibre delivery has meant that online data has the capacity to travel at much greater speeds than those currently achieved" WHERE IS THE SCRATCHED GLASS COMING INTO PLAY THEN?? We all know that fibre optic cable is faster then copper. The scratched glass was supposed to be changing the EXISTING SWITCHES that is causing the lag time according to the article. I reiterate ...... did you actually read this or just cherry pick so you can go on the attack?
Hung yourself with your own tongue on this one "Champion"Which "job" is that exactly old ****? To re-educate the neophytes to bend to the will of the shiny blue cable?
P.S. Read the article again. Replace the switches with photonic switch technology. NOWHERE does it state fibre optic cable is the key to the solution.
Yes, that's the one. The job I have to ensure truth, justice and the Australian way when it comes to dispelling ridiculous myths surrounding the NBN. Oh, and just in case you're implying that by 'job' I meant a paid or otherwise directed position to perform such a role, you should be on the Australian Olympic archery team if you can draw a bow that long.
Bwaahahhhahahhahahahhaaaa *gasp* hahahhahhahaahqaaaaaaggagagaa ...... So now you are a superhero? Truth, justice and the Austalian way !! You have got to be kidding me man. You have some serious issues I think you should look at. This by the way is an internet forum where people can have an opinion that differs from yours. So who apointed you to make this your "JOB" then? Yourself?
And what exactly is your "JOB" in here then other than flying around wearing a red cape and your underpants on the outside, Ohhhhhhhhhhh thats right, educating us neophytes on the benefits of a shiny blue cable!
No ridiculous myths as to why they would not release a business case model then?
Methinks you have made a Freudian slip old ****. Hand in the cookie jar for mine.
Your "JOB" ...... LOL
P.S. Send an email to Alan Jones ..... I am sure he will want to hear your point of view as well. Afterall ...... he gets paid for his job.
Your just digging a bigger hole for yourself,put the bottle down and go to bed.
NBNMyths on a roll.MAKES MY JOB HERE MUCH EASIER
You of all people can see this folding out in front of you todster?
Truth, justice and the Australian Waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy ........ up up and awayyyyyyyy! You have got to be kidding me !!!!!!!!
NBNMyths on a roll.
The potential intelligence and military applications of this new technology are likely to prove to be compelling incentives for certain nations to get on board, so my best guess is that it will happen in my current lifetime!How long until working systems will be implemented?
Are you really asking me to commit a scientist to a specific deadline?
Have you checked out what production systems using anything quantum use? USA based company has started selling quantum computing devices. http://www.dwavesys.com/en/dw_homepage.html and check out the cooling required!
When I read this, I though you were serious and I was all ready to write a nice, factual response. Then I read this.....
.... and now am pretty sure you're either having a shot, or have just been watching too many episodes of Fringe.
ROFL....Quantum Entanglement! Yep, I'm sure that commercial technology that violates Einstein's theory of relativity is only just around the corner.
Bwaahahhhahahhahahahhaaaa *gasp* hahahhahhahaahqaaaaaaggagagaa ...... So now you are a superhero? Truth, justice and the Austalian way !! You have got to be kidding me man. You have some serious issues I think you should look at. This by the way is an internet forum where people can have an opinion that differs from yours. So who appointed you to make this your "JOB" then? Yourself?
And what exactly is your "JOB" in here then other than flying around wearing a red cape and your underpants on the outside, Ohhhhhhhhhhh thats right, educating us neophytes on the benefits of a shiny blue cable!
Methinks you have made a Freudian slip old ****. Hand in the cookie jar for mine.
Your "JOB" ...... LOL
P.S. Send an email to Alan Jones ..... I am sure he will want to hear your point of view as well. Afterall ...... he gets paid for his job.
You of all people can see this folding out in front of you todster?
Truth, justice and the Australian Waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy ........ up up and awayyyyyyyy! You have got to be kidding me !!!!!!!!
NBNMyths on a roll.
No ridiculous myths as to why they would not release a business case model then?
Am I to understand that you are suggesting that commercial applications of Quantum Entanglement violate Einstein's Theory of Relativity?
I just watched an amazing video of a new PC and console game that's going to be released soon called Battlefield 3 (BF3) the game features stunning graphics and Multiplayer servers capable of hosting 64 player games, the amount of bandwidth and low ping's required to have quality play is reliant on capable hardware and fast, high quality internet connections, as an example of where the gaming world is going have a look at the video in full screen HD and imagine what the future holds if this is the reality now....this is 1 reason why need the NBN.
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To compound my connectivity frustration, I see with the NBN, those of us on small rural phone exchanges will get shafted. My neighbours on ADSL will have to move to Sat. with approx 10x less service delivery then that available to those with fibre. Fark knows what we'll do for telephony when they cease support for the copper lines, smoke signals ? Once again, we small rural areas get the rough end of the pineapple in terms of services.
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