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I always wondered who were the governments technical advisors on this one, assuming of course that Rudd's ego allowed experts other than himself to have a say.
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Nah depends on how much data you are pushing around NBN is still a thing and more reliable
 
IFocus said:
Nah depends on how much data you are pushing around NBN is still a thing and more reliable
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Big business love it, so do netflix, stan, google t.v, amazon prime, Disney, Optus, TPG etc.
Meanwhile Mum and Dad on struggle street pay twice as much for the internet, but it's probably cheaper than a babysitter and easier than teaching the kids the times tables or taking them out to kick a footy.
Also it would have been brilliant during covid shutdowns.
 

Again nah any business that has various outlets or companies that have multiple sites will run their applications from a central point lots of data more than any other service can deliver there are zillions of other services that require mass data
 
IFocus said:
Again nah any business that has various outlets or companies that have multiple sites will run their applications from a central point lots of data more than any other service can deliver there are zillions of other services that require mass data
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NAH, business will still use point to point optical, which the NBN will be providing, as it will be secure.
A business wont run their own cable as it would be near on impossible and they wont have installed their own secure digital network across Australia, as it would have cost too much and not be feasible.
So as I said big business love it, huge secure data transfer speeds as opposed to the old copper network, they just piggy back their applications on it.
I could be wrong, but as you say, Nah.

The only people who really didn't need it and could have managed without it, was the household and they were the ones who actually paid for it.?
I'm in Mandurah with the grandkids watching netflix on a 4G modem, while the optical fibre sits in the box on the side of the building, still waiting to be connected 10 years later.

So big business gets a high speed mass data transfer system, the t.v networks get to be able to start subscription t.v rather than having to put it over the free to air , the telco's get to be able to charge the homeowner $60/month for basic internet when they were getting it for $30/month on adsl and the taxpaying homeowner gets to pay for the installation. Magic. ?

People really do need to stop and think for a change, I'm not saying the NBN is wrong it isn't, it is just the telco's and media who make all the money from it should pay for it, not the taxpayer who has to subsidise big business as usual.
But hang on you guys are always saying that, I guess it is all about the narrative.
 
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Come on SP you twisted that one you said NBN useless I said it was needed who should pay is a different conversation
 
IFocus said:
Come on SP you twisted that one you said NBN useless I said it was needed who should pay is a different conversation
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I never said it was useless, I've always said the taxpayer shouldn't have had to pay for it, as all it has done for Mum and Dad is increase the cost of the service and increase the profits of service providers.
The NBN is ideal for business as it is secure point to point, for the average taxpayer the flexibility of wireless internet is far more useful.


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The time is drawing closer, where the NBN becomes just a cable T.V system, as was said in the early days of the brain fart I mean taxpayer funded leg up for the telco's.
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The tax payer funded NBN, is slowly becoming the death knell of free to air t.v. ?

https://www.smh.com.au/culture/tv-a...to-air-schedule-revealed-20230804-p5dtzw.html
A Nigerian-Australian community leader has expressed disappointment that the upcoming knockout round clash between Nigeria and England will not be available to watch on free-to-air television, with broadcast partner Seven confirming on Friday only half of the FIFA Women’s World Cup round of 16 matches will be broadcast for free.
Though fans will be able to watch the Matildas go head-to-head with Denmark on Monday night, and France clash with Morocco, only those with an Optus Sports subscription will be able to see Spain compete with Switzerland, South Africa take on the Netherlands, Colombia battle Jamaica, or England’s duel with Nigeria.
 
Now the latest reality, not only does the taxpayer get to pay for what was free to air, now they will get the adverts to go with it.
I wonder how long it will be, before the Government starts selling off the current free to air UHF and VHF spectrum.

Amazon Prime Video unveiled plans to introduce advertisements during shows and movies starting early next year — becoming the latest streaming service to embrace ads to keep its business growing.

Known for popular original programming like The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel and The Summer I Turned Pretty, Amazon Prime Video will offer two tiers of subscriptions in 2024. With ads, the price of Prime membership, which is currently $14.99 per month in the U.S., will not change.

But for ad-free content, subscribers in the U.S. will have to pay an additional $2.99 per month. Pricing in other countries will be shared at a later date, Amazon said Friday in a statement.
 
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Well the transition to cable T.V continues, as the flexibility of wireless makes the NBN more and more redundant for households, as if that wasn't obvious from the start.
IMO all we need now, is the free to air bandwidth to be sold and the taxpayers feet will be completely blown off, it would be sad, if it wasn't so predictable.

Telstra partners with Elon Musk's Starlink for internet in remote Australia

Australia's top telecom firm Telstra Group said on Monday it will partner with Elon Musk's Starlink to provide fixed broadband and voice services to rural Australians.
www.reuters.com
 
I got asked to change to wireless broadband today. Similar stats half the price.
 
moXJO said:
I got asked to change to wireless broadband today. Similar stats half the price.
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Yes the NBN was the biggest brain fart ever, tax payers were paying $30 for ADSL and the telcos and networks were having to work their Ar$es off to get advertising dollars to make money.

So the taxpayer puts in optical so that the telcos can charge the taxpayer $60 and now all the good movies that were on free to air, were then pay to view and all the old crap shows are on free to air.

Meanwhile big business gets bling speed data transfer, the only loser the taxpayer, as the telcos have been let off having to pay NBN back the build out cost.

Now the everyday taxpayer wants the flexibility of wireless, so they can do everything on the move, so not only are they paying for wireless data, they are paying twice as much for the home internet which they really only use to watch subscription T.V. and game.

And the masses think they have been given a great deal, no wonder the politicians believe they can get away with anything, they can.

I have had an optical fibre to the outside of the house for 11 years, ours was the first W.A area to have the roll out. I still haven't got it connected, neither has next door.
We use wireless dongle plus phone hot spot supplement if needed, stream t.v for the grandkids no problem, I'm seriously thinking of upgrading to a zte mu5001 5g.
The only thing is the old 4G pocket modem is still great for travelling, internet and phone calls.

Still a virgin after so long, never been touched, it might become collectable.




Old faithful.

 
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Well this is an interesting article, people are going back to viewing with ads, wow back to the future.
Now they are getting the same service as free to air tv and paying double for internet. Next pandemic lets hope they don't introduce subscription toilet paper, or we will all be forced onto that scam.

Australians are spending less on streaming services, but rising cost of living isn't the only reason why

Pricey entertainment subscription services are getting the chop from more Aussie households as consumers turn to free or cheaper ad-based content for entertainment, a new report reveals.
www.abc.net.au
 
sptrawler said:
The tax payer funded NBN, is slowly becoming the death knell of free to air t.v. ?
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The march toward pay to watch T.V continues, the tapayer funded own goal, now even the T.V stations are waking up to the fact they are going to be creamed by the multinationals.
Serves them right dumb clucks, they were keen enough when the taxpayer was funding it, now they are waking up that free to air wasn't that bad after all.
It is much harder for the multinationals to poach their viewers on free to air, than it is over the cable, this will put a torch to them and it is only the start, wait until the telco's get involved.

Australia’s top media executives are appearing in Canberra today to give evidence over laws that would legislate viewers’ ability to easily find free-to-air apps on smart televisions.

SBS boss James Taylor and ABC boss David Anderson have kicked off proceedings.

The SBS boss opened with a claim the hybrid public broadcaster was informed in 2018 by the manufacturer of the best-selling connected TV in Australia that the SBS On Demand app would be removed if SBS did not agree to a 15 per cent revenue share and placement fee.

“When SBS refused to pay, the manufacturer carried through on their threat, making it much harder for audiences to find the SBS On Demand app,” Taylor said.
Anderson says it is in both ABC and SBS charters the channels should be freely accessible for the Australian public.
 

Nah, saw something the other day from a major telecom CEO in the US saying 90% at least of data still goes through cable.
 
IFocus said:
Nah, saw something the other day from a major telecom CEO in the US saying 90% at least of data still goes through cable.
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As I said a long, long time ago, the CBD's and businesses should have been done, as secure point to point communication is critical and it would have been income positive. Yet it was rolled out to lower socio economic areas first, which was and still is a disaster, other than in political milage, that didn't eventuate as usual.

Domestic should have been rolled out much more slowly, as it was only going to provide the telecomunication companies and the media the ability to charge consumers more for T.V which they already had, now they pay at least twice as much for the internet and now have to pay for decent sport/tv coverage, plus still get the adverts with it. What a hoot, someone got a backhander there, for sure. Lol

Funny that the Govt recently let the telcos off the $30billion they were supposed to contribute.

Just another brain fart that dissipats over time. LOL, lucky I have a good memory.

People will move off the NBN onto over the air asap, why the hell would you want to pay for internet stuck in your house when you could take it with you?
The oldest son has starlink and is offgrid electric, just loving it, his speeds are heaps better than neighbour and he works for the power station. Lol
 
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Major telco Telstra has signed a new deal with Elon Musk’s satellite network Starlink, allowing customers to send a text message from almost anywhere in Australia – including rural and regional dead zones.

Under the deal announced on Thursday, Telstra customers will be able to use Musk’s low-earth orbit satellites to communicate with other users across Australia. It marks a new foray into the direct-to-handset technology for Telstra, whose network covers all but 0.3 per cent of the Australian population.


Australia's Telstra brings home satellite tech with Musk's SpaceX

Telstra has partnered with satellite-based internet provider Starlink to bring the latter's Starlink-to-Mobile technology to Australia, enabling the U.S. firm to deliver satellite broadband connectivity directly to compatible mobile phones, particularly in remote areas. "The collaboration would...
ca.finance.yahoo.com

(Reuters) -Top Australian telco Telstra said on Thursday it is collaborating with billionaire Elon Musk's SpaceX to bring satellite connectivity technology to its regional customers.

Telstra has partnered with satellite-based internet provider Starlink to bring the latter's Starlink-to-Mobile technology to Australia, enabling the U.S. firm to deliver satellite broadband connectivity directly to compatible mobile phones, particularly in remote areas.

"The collaboration would enable Telstra customers to send and receive SMSes on a compatible mobile phone in most parts of Australia where there is a direct line of sight to the sky," said Telstra Group Executive of Global Network and Technology Shailin Sehgal.

This is not the first collaboration between the two firms; in 2023, Telstra signed an agreement with Starlink to offer voice-only and voice-plus-broadband services in rural and remote areas of Australia.
 
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